Rumours and Stuff

[Stagger eel]

They're not next cab off the rank. They have at least six players ahead of them.

really?

than you must know something we don't...outside of Simmo and JAC happy for you to name them?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

JAC
Wenisini
Simonsson
Russell
Samrani
Renisini

All top 30 players.

 

[85 Baby]

Interesting observation if you think Arthur’s doesn’t offer as much as some players he would compete with at the club. He’s quicker than anyone except JAC and is a danger from most areas of the pitch. Anyway , he would have to sign and our front office would need to sell him something, given that previously they thought Farnsworth wasn’t worth what he was asking for when available it’s a judgement call.

I’d put him at same level as Simonsson, Russell and Penisini. He’s better than them at some things but probably not enough for blank cheque. And you can’t look at him in isolation. My opinion is we’d pay him more than a 5th choice back is worth, which is fine if he’s higher than 5th choice but then that also makes one of the others 5th choice, and so is their pay in line with 5th choice.
The exception to all of this is if Simonsson is totally done. Because yes currently he is streets ahead of whoever our 5th choice is.
I agree with @Avenger that Murray Tuilagi is probably an even better target. But also from memory he plays same side as JAC so might require some due diligence if he can play other side.

 

[Stagger eel]

JAC
Wenisini
Simonsson
Russell
Samrani
Renisini

All top 30 players.

mate, you're including starting players!

you've also included Samrani in which the club believes is exclusively an edge forward now.

 

[85 Baby]

mate, you're including starting players!

Do you think Tago is going to play if any of those players is available?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

mate, you're including starting players!

Of course. You don't think clubs maintain a depth chart with seven backup wingers do you?

you've also included Samrani in which the club believes is exclusively an edge forward now.

No they don't. Also, given Araz Nanva played 22 NSW Cup games last year, he is surely ahead of Alameddine. I dare say by the end of preseason he will be ahead of Tago as well.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The exception to all of this is if Simonsson is totally done. Because yes currently he is streets ahead of whoever our 5th choice is.

I reckon Simonsson is still better than Russell as well.

 

[Twizzle]

Yeah but if they also both go down, plus Papalii (maybe even Te Hurinui @Twizzle) at the same time as one of JAC, Penisini, Simonsson or Russell, then we may have to call on Tago

I'm not playing cup ffs

 

[85 Baby]

I reckon Simonsson is still better than Russell as well.

Skillwise maybe.
But he’s currently made of glass.
And it really depends how he comes back after his hissy fit, and even then that whinge alone shows to me that there’s some vulnerability there that potentially could just resurface again.

 

[85 Baby]

I'm not playing cup ffs

Flegg?

 

[Stagger eel]

Do you think Tago is going to play if any of those players is available?

the discussion point is back ups.


I've thrown 3 names who are back up wingers at their clubs that far superior than what we have outside our starting 2-5.

let me also remind you that we just lost one of the best wingers in the comp without a contingency plan, yes I get that the storm did the same but they have a ready made replacement and are kings of the 'turd polishers'

 

[Twizzle]

Flegg?

don't think they take players my age

 

[85 Baby]

the discussion point is back ups.


I've thrown 3 names who are back up wingers at their clubs that far superior than what we have outside our starting 2-5.

let me also remind you that we just lost one of the best wingers in the comp without a contingency plan, yes I get that the storm did the same but they have a ready made replacement and are kings of the 'turd polishers'

But you are comparing them to Tago who isn’t in the same spot as Skelton, et al. You should be comparing them to Renisini, and even then as you said we haven’t replaced Lomax yet, so really you should be comparing them to whoever you think the worst out of Simonsson, Russell or Penisini as they would’ve be same level as the players you mentioned before we let Lomax go.

 

[Grigor]

Morgan Harper is off contract if where looking for a centre and dunster still unsigned, could our r and r team revisit the past ? , good thing is trolley boy would have there numbers

 

[Stevie]

I’m telling you. Bottom 4. But I’m betting on a spoon next season. We just do not have the cattle.

 

[Stagger eel]

But you are comparing them to Tago who isn’t in the same spot as Skelton, et al. You should be comparing them to Renisini, and even then as you said we haven’t replaced Lomax yet, so really you should be comparing them to whoever you think the worst out of Simonsson, Russell or Penisini as they would’ve be same level as the players you mentioned before we let Lomax go.

well the reason why I mentioned Tago is because we no longer have an out an out back up winger in our T30..

Renisini is a centre.

I'll go further...we don't even have a winger you'd regard as a potential NRL player of the future, Lorima Rokosuka might be a chance I suppose but he's only just started his Flegg career and has some deficiencies in his game that seriously need addressing.

 

[85 Baby]

I’m telling you. Bottom 4. But I’m betting on a spoon next season. We just do not have the cattle.

There was discussion earlier regarding Ryles’ improving our defence. I think we’re going to need to continue that big time in order to cover the overall skill deficiencies otherwise I agree next season will be tough going

 

[Stagger eel]

if the injury gods are super nice to us I still think we can sneak in the 8...but it's a long shot.

 

[85 Baby]

well the reason why I mentioned Tago is because we no longer have an out an out back up winger in our T30..

Renisini is a centre.

Russell has played wing in the NRL. In fact many questioned him being selected as centre. And do you think Tago is a better winger than both Penisii?
I agree we’re a winger short having let Lomax go and need a replacement but all that replacement should do is move Tago from 7th option to 8th whoopy de f**ken doo. Even then I’ve also got Papalii and @Twizzle ahead of him too. f**k throw in moving Tuilagi or Kautoga or Williams out to centre. Or if the injury toll is that bad, play around with Iongi/Moses and bring Volkman in as warm body ahead of Tago.
If Tago is picked then either our injury toll is going to be so dire, that we could just send you out there for same result, or Tago has found cracking run of form, which is good.

 

[hindy111]

Cherry picking a very small sample of games there. You need to look at his career win rate overall, otherwise you're just pushing an agenda.

You already admitted most of our players were garbage. Now you refuse to blame them for playing poorly?

No finals is a completely different beast. This is when the legit contenders turn the heat up and squash the pretenders.

Hang on a second . Did you think weekly club games are played at the same intensity as finals games?
Silly sausage. That's a bush coach mentality.