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Round 5 Vs Cowboys

Tomrum2

Juniors
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What happened to draw and pass in the backs instead of just passing and second phase ball with the forwards?
 

since77

Bench
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2,909
I'm really in 2 minds about team selection from now on. On one hand I want to see an injection of youth, LPT, Halangalu, Egan when he returns, Nick T, LKT, even Reed at some point. On the other hand I wonder if we should just keep the kids away from this shit show for the remainder of the year, and keep them in Ressies where there seems to be better structures, better coaching and better results??
He has to go youth or he's writing his own termination papers. I'd rather watch a young side that shows potential and gains experience while losing than the absolute utter woeful shite that was served up yesterday. Yesterday was like travelling back to Griffin's 2023 team - which is the worst Dragon's side I've seen. Yesterday's rabble came pretty damn close to that. Geez that was hard to watch. Very few times I've felt numb watching a game but that was one of them. They had no f#$king idea yesterday.
At least Kyle is now a forced change, although terrible circumstances to happen via.
Just throw the most creative team of players out there and hope. It's sad to say that's a better game plan than what they've been going with.
 

blacksafake

Coach
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11,344
Obviously a couple of forced changes.

Suli will come in for Bucky for sure.
Who comes in for Kyle? Reed or stick with LKT?
TU for Sloan who just doesn't have it.

1. Gutho - under sufferance
2. CT or Fale
3. Suli
4. Val - running out of patience
5. TU

6. Atkinson
7. Reed

8. T.Couch
9. Liddle
10. Take your pick - Kerr, cake
11. Luch
12. Sua
13. Stewart

14. Cook
15. Sele
16. Loko
17. Truck

18. LKT
19. Take your pick

Don’t mind that bench.
I’d like to see Nick T in there somewhere at some stage. I’ve lost patience with Cook.
 

matPORTS

Juniors
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753
I'd honestly say that we must now go with the following halves combo:

6. Atko (his natural position)
7. Reed (something tells me we can keep dreaming about this because he is neither in the Top 30 or Supplementary List as of yet)

Agreed - it's time for Liddle to start at 9

The following must feature in the pack / extended bench, and be given preference for game time:

Halangahu
LPT
Nick T (can cover edge or centre)

(side note - I thought we really missed the Couchmen yesterday and it will be good to have Toby back onboard this week)

Backline options:

Tu to come back in over Sloan
Suli to come back in over Buchanan
Matt F, Lawson, Fale given preference over Tui? Although I'm not sure if any of the others will be better or worse?

We are very much caught between a rock and a hard place. Continue to be stubborn with the experienced players or let the youth off the leash in favour of thinking about the future?

We can't keep deluding ourselves though. We don't have the cattle to get ourselves easily out of the mess we find ourselves in today. From a scoreboard + wins/losses perspective, we are unlikely to see too much improvement tomorrow, this coming week, or over the next month as we run through what will be some very tough games...

But trying to look at the glass half full - maybe if we make some positive changes now we might be able to start seeing some more positive results come the second half of the season?
 

Flinstone

Juniors
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368
I'd honestly say that we must now go with the following halves combo:

6. Atko (his natural position)
7. Reed (something tells me we can keep dreaming about this because he is neither in the Top 30 or Supplementary List as of yet)

Agreed - it's time for Liddle to start at 9

The following must feature in the pack / extended bench, and be given preference for game time:

Halangahu
LPT
Nick T (can cover edge or centre)

(side note - I thought we really missed the Couchmen yesterday and it will be good to have Toby back onboard this week)

Backline options:

Tu to come back in over Sloan
Suli to come back in over Buchanan
Matt F, Lawson, Fale given preference over Tui? Although I'm not sure if any of the others will be better or worse?

We are very much caught between a rock and a hard place. Continue to be stubborn with the experienced players or let the youth off the leash in favour of thinking about the future?

We can't keep deluding ourselves though. We don't have the cattle to get ourselves easily out of the mess we find ourselves in today. From a scoreboard + wins/losses perspective, we are unlikely to see too much improvement tomorrow, this coming week, or over the next month as we run through what will be some very tough games...

But trying to look at the glass half full - maybe if we make some positive changes now we might be able to start seeing some more positive results come the second half of the season?
We don't have the players, being on the bottom it doesn't help recruiting top players.
Can't see him puting in Reed. It will be LKT.
I don't mind Liddle starting but watch him be average playing more minutes with less impact.
 

Flinstone

Juniors
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368
In the Parra game, even Liddle looked frustrated at dummy half, hands up like who want's the ball, what are we doing, who am i giving it to. Halvs lacking. Due to Kyle's injury we will see a different halvs paring, can't see it making a difference.
 

Illusion

Bench
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3,755
He has to go youth or he's writing his own termination papers. I'd rather watch a young side that shows potential and gains experience while losing than the absolute utter woeful shite that was served up yesterday. Yesterday was like travelling back to Griffin's 2023 team - which is the worst Dragon's side I've seen. Yesterday's rabble came pretty damn close to that. Geez that was hard to watch. Very few times I've felt numb watching a game but that was one of them. They had no f#$king idea yesterday.
At least Kyle is now a forced change, although terrible circumstances to happen via.
Just throw the most creative team of players out there and hope. It's sad to say that's a better game plan than what they've been going with.
Agree need some speed as well .......
 

shiloh dc

Juniors
Messages
750
Liking King Tommy - the sequel to Brokeback Mountain - chronicles the conflicts of a current Cowboy and his opposing Cowboy 😉
 

Saint Angelo

Juniors
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301
No chance on winning 0.5 no bother watching another press conference after game with coach comments we have the team just can't get it done.
He has lost the dressing room with players and supporters.

This exactly "He has lost the dressing room".

No coming back from that.
Time for a new coach, and when I say NEW, that doesn't include Dean Young.
 
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Obviously a couple of forced changes.

Suli will come in for Bucky for sure.
Who comes in for Kyle? Reed or stick with LKT?
TU for Sloan who just doesn't have it.

1. Gutho - under sufferance
2. CT or Fale
3. Suli
4. Val - running out of patience
5. TU

6. Atkinson
7. Reed

8. T.Couch
9. Liddle
10. Take your pick - Kerr, cake
11. Luch
12. Sua
13. Stewart

14. Cook
15. Sele
16. Loko
17. Truck

18. LKT
19. Take your pick
1 Val / 2 Tui 3 Suli 4 Buchanan 5 Fale / 6 Gutho 7 Cook / 13 Stewart 12 Su'A 11 Halangahu 10 Luce 9 Liddle 8 Lawrie
14 Couchman 15 Sele 16 LPT 17 LKT 18 Atkinson 19 Guler

Not that it matters
You can rearrange the deckchairs on the Titanic anyway you like, it still sinks.
 

matPORTS

Juniors
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753
1 Val / 2 Tui 3 Suli 4 Buchanan 5 Fale / 6 Gutho 7 Cook / 13 Stewart 12 Su'A 11 Halangahu 10 Luce 9 Liddle 8 Lawrie
14 Couchman 15 Sele 16 LPT 17 LKT 18 Atkinson 19 Guler

Not that it matters
You can rearrange the deckchairs on the Titanic anyway you like, it still sinks.

That's probably the kind of real wholesale changes we need (with respect to the players we have available and ready).
 

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