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chiefy1

chiefy1

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hineyrulz said:
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Thats 100% pau pau
 
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lucablight

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Poupou Escobar said:
They are something a club can give the player instead of salary cap space. It’s like insurance, and the risk is only realised when the player is injured and should retire but activates the extension, like Matterson. This happens very rarely. Most of the time players don’t take their PO because they can get more elsewhere. Look at Dylan Brown; he had a decade of POs but he preferred to take more cash instead.
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Yeah it’s basically saying we’re so desperate to sign you at this moment in time that we’re willing to let you be shit or useless to us in a few years time if you fall off massively. Do you think that’s a good way to do business in the long term?
 
Tiger5150

Tiger5150

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Poupou Escobar said:
What are you talking about? TDS and Laulilii played fewer than 30 games for you before leaving. Makasini has played five games and he's free to negotiate with rivals in just over six months. And as you admit, Galvin only played 31 games for the Tigers.

Well Delboy's point was that we should debut more youngsters. Why do you care when you think I'm saying it (which I'm not btw)? Delboy said we should be doing it. All I said was that we have been doing it. I think we shouldn't, but for different reasons than yours.

You inferred from my post that I think we should debut high numbers of youngsters, while ignoring another poster who explicitly stated that we should.

The data also supports my theory that they were never good enough, but were required to play first grade due to unavailability of other players. With our injury toll we might be forced to debut teenagers again this year. Not because we think it's good for their development, but out of necessity. Mature backups are a luxury we don't have this year.

And if we do play more youngsters in the NRL this year it won't help or harm their development. They will turn out the player they were always going to be. Just like all the Origin players who debuted in the NRL very young.

It's up to each man to decide for himself whether there is a need for a reflexive contrarian impulse. And when you ignore someone else's ideas you disagree with and come after me because you assume they're my shit ideas, then I'm waking up in the morning and choosing reflexive contrarianism.

Obviously. Other dudes are early bloomers without a high ceiling. These guys are usually mature for their age and good leaders, and they get picked young because it's believed they won't be overawed. Examples are Rankin and Jake Arthur.
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Completely unsufferable and completely impossible to have a discussion with.

My post had absolutely nothing to do with what you and Delboy were talking about. I couldnt give a flying fig about what you and Delboy were saying, i didnt refer to what you guys were saying. I made that clear using the english language. I was making a point that was critical of the Tigers and used your data as an example.

In response you argue a case that has NOTHING to do with what I said or was talking about and then accuse me of cherry picking your posts to make an argument Im not even arguing....then you invent or imagine what I am inferring because my actual words dont fit your deranged narrative.

Twist and twist and turn into knots about something that doesnt exist. Exhausting
 
Tiger5150

Tiger5150

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TheRam said:
Also Makasini, if you are to play him in the NRL right now, should be on the wing NOT centre. He hasn't a clue defensively and offensively in the centres. At this stage of his development he needs an experienced centre inside him and just to run hard when he receives the ball and to follow his centre cues in defense. Just let the kid play simple, simple footy.

Don't burden him in the hardest defensive position in the game, no matter how short you are in the centres.
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I agree with you 100% but unfortunately after both our first grade centres were injured, Maka is the next best centre and we have good wing depth (Tavana who played so well against Parra is legitimately our 5th choice winger).

Tiny May is back next week which will be great as Maka can go back to the wing.
 
Poupou Escobar

Poupou Escobar

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lucablight said:
Yeah it’s basically saying we’re so desperate to sign you at this moment in time that we’re willing to let you be shit or useless to us in a few years time if you fall off massively. Do you think that’s a good way to do business in the long term?
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It's the NRL. Nobody's going to accept short term pain for some nebulous long-term benefit. Look at the reaction to statements about 'five year plans' and the like. Short term results have primacy in the NRL. It's why clubs backend contracts or offer POs to try and squeeze players under the cap. Any long term downsides are a problem for later, because clubs need to win now. And yes they are desperate.
 
Poupou Escobar

Poupou Escobar

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Tiger5150 said:
Completely unsufferable and completely impossible to have a discussion with.

My post had absolutely nothing to do with what you and Delboy were talking about. I couldnt give a flying fig about what you and Delboy were saying, i didnt refer to what you guys were saying. I made that clear using the english language. I was making a point that was critical of the Tigers and used your data as an example.

In response you argue a case that has NOTHING to do with what I said or was talking about and then accuse me of cherry picking your posts to make an argument Im not even arguing....then you invent or imagine what I am inferring because my actual words dont fit your deranged narrative.

Twist and twist and turn into knots about something that doesnt exist. Exhausting
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Don't bullshit mate. We can go back and quote all the statements that were made. They are on the public record.
 
T-Boon

T-Boon

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I would overpay some players on one year contracts for next year.
There is only maybe 3 players you would want to have locked up for more than 2 years (Moses, Iongi, Tui).
Penisini for example. Pay him more than he is worth but just for one season. If he wants more security than one season let him go. Williams is another who should only be on one year contracts.
I would ask some players to renegotiate their contracts to one year.

Anyone who has been saying Papalii is as good as Iongi out yourself so we can write your opinion off.
 
Eelementary

Eelementary

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T-Boon said:
I would overpay some players on one year contracts for next year.
There is only maybe 3 players you would want to have locked up for more than 2 years (Moses, Iongi, Tui).
Penisini for example. Pay him more than he is worth but just for one season. If he wants more security than one season let him go. Williams is another who should only be on one year contracts.
I would ask some players to renegotiate their contracts to one year.

Anyone who has been saying Papalii is as good as Iongi out yourself so we can write your opinion off.
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I'd offer Penisini a million dollars a year to f**k off, and NOT play for the Eels.
 
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