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ANZ Stadium half closed for Origin

Hanscholo

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Just like there was 5k going to turn up to the test match the other night, looked full to me.

If your going to post something back it up with some evidence. Some guy telling you is not cutting it.
 

Quidgybo

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Hmmm...

Qbo is usually spot on the money with his theories of RL. I guess having lived in Sydney all my life I am spoiled for SOO. It is always here. I think if it was taken away it would cause much unrest.
But no one is talking about taking Origin away from Sydney. You'd still get one match every year and as it stands Sydney is not selling that match out even in years when NSW only hosts one game - so it's hardly like anyone is being denied access to the game. If you want to go, there's a seat waiting for you. Of course if the one game was selling out every year and there were another 50,000 people banging on the door, it'd be a different matter. But until then, let's give some of those who don't ever get easy access to the game a chance every two or four years.

I think the problem here is that we are all trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. We are all saying what to do if Sydneysiders and those that travel to the capital for the game stop coming. The simple fact is, they wont.
But that's not the problem we're trying to solve. Nobody is saying those who travel will stop travelling. But for every one of those people who are in a position to travel, how many are there who aren't able to travel but still dream of the chance to attend one of these big games? That's the problem I'm trying to address - how to reward loyal fans of the game who aren't fortunate enough to live in the capital but who are in still reasonably large regional centres and somehow manage to support the game in extraordinary numbers year after year.

Leigh.
 

Quidgybo

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meanwhile the ARL lose about $4 million in revenue.

its never going to happen.
Well if the ARL would show some balls with their 50% control of the NRL Board and hold out for better TV deals then perhaps they wouldn't be so desperate for money. Then they could get back to doing whatever is good for the game and its fans across the entire length of breadth of Australia instead of just what is most profitable.

Leigh.
 

Ice777

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To be fair it's far easier to sell out Suncorp than ANZ due to sheer maths... 52,000 tickets are snapped up far quicker than 83,000.

To be fair, using that argument, due to sheer maths surely it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect that the 2.5 million (approx) extra people residing in Sydney over Brisbane would more than enough make up the 31k shortfall between the 2 stadiums?

Anyway, i can't see any problem with the way it is right now. If the games sell out they sell out, if they don't they don't. If in the coming years the crowds get embarrassingly low in Sydney (which i don't think they will get to that point) only then should they be looking to moving one of the games elsewhere.

I've never been one to look at how many empty seats there are to gauge or judge how successful something is, i look at how many people that are actually at the game.
 

Timbo

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I'd also like to mention that whilst I was going to go this year, like I did last year, there was simply no way I could afford it this season.
 

Johnny Bravo

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If you're anywhere but the top say 40,000 tickets sold you get terrible seats and can barely see the game at ANZ.

At Lang Park, wherever you sit, you get a great view.

I can justify paying $50 for the nosebleeds in QLD, hell I can even justify paying for my plane tickets on top of that to sit in the nosebleeds. Unless I'm at halfway at ANZ, I refuse to buy tickets.

That is the reality of the situation, not whether people want to follow the game or not. Just the fact that it is so much better to watch on TV unless you're close to the field at ANZ.

You put a ground like Lang Park in Sydney, that can hold 80,000+ people, and it would sell out just as fast as it does in QLD.

I fly up every year to support NSW. I refuse to goto the NSW games however.
 

CycloneSteve

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Got an email offer from NRL.com that if you buy a Category 3 or 4 ticket you get 3 free passes to any NRL game at ANZ. Might be worth doing me thinks. It looks like they are getting desperate though.
 
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Well if the ARL would show some balls with their 50% control of the NRL Board and hold out for better TV deals then perhaps they wouldn't be so desperate for money. Then they could get back to doing whatever is good for the game and its fans across the entire length of breadth of Australia instead of just what is most profitable.

Leigh.

the ARL did show some balls against news ltd.

remember the SL war.

what we have today is just a sad reflection of what owning a multi billion dollar company with politicans in your back pocket can achieve
 

Timmah

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Exactly right. This place is more and more like a certain other website I visit, every member believing unsubstantiated rumour and taking it as gospel, ignoring the dismissals of it later in the thread.

It's quite sad really that this argument started by hearsay, and even more sad that it means the Queenslanders have more doomsday predictions before, hopefully, being proven dramatically wrong much like last Friday night.
 

Timmah

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To be fair, using that argument, due to sheer maths surely it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect that the 2.5 million (approx) extra people residing in Sydney over Brisbane would more than enough make up the 31k shortfall between the 2 stadiums?

Anyway, i can't see any problem with the way it is right now. If the games sell out they sell out, if they don't they don't. If in the coming years the crowds get embarrassingly low in Sydney (which i don't think they will get to that point) only then should they be looking to moving one of the games elsewhere.

I've never been one to look at how many empty seats there are to gauge or judge how successful something is, i look at how many people that are actually at the game.

That's one of the anti-Sydney brigade's poorest arguments. You're assuming the difference in population automatically accounts for the face we have a bigger stadium and that a certain percentile of that extra population means extra interest in RL. While it would certainly be nice, there are far more sports competing for the dollar in NSW than there are in QLD.

Got an email offer from NRL.com that if you buy a Category 3 or 4 ticket you get 3 free passes to any NRL game at ANZ. Might be worth doing me thinks. It looks like they are getting desperate though.

That's what gets up my nose - the NRL have gone to the trouble of organising a deal that benefits league fans and now they're being called desperate? Seems noone appreciates a handout anymore.
 

Quidgybo

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You put a ground like Lang Park in Sydney, that can hold 80,000+ people, and it would sell out just as fast as it does in QLD.
But can you have a great viewing ground like Lang Park that holds 80,000+ or are great viewing and large capacity incompatible aims? There'd be little argument that there could be better viewing for many seats but are the worst 30,000 or 40,000 seats at places like the new Wembley or some of the large American Football stadiums really that much better than those at ANZ? (genuine question - I don't know the answer)

Leigh
 
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If you're anywhere but the top say 40,000 tickets sold you get terrible seats and can barely see the game at ANZ.

At Lang Park, wherever you sit, you get a great view.

I can justify paying $50 for the nosebleeds in QLD, hell I can even justify paying for my plane tickets on top of that to sit in the nosebleeds. Unless I'm at halfway at ANZ, I refuse to buy tickets.

That is the reality of the situation, not whether people want to follow the game or not. Just the fact that it is so much better to watch on TV unless you're close to the field at ANZ.

You put a ground like Lang Park in Sydney, that can hold 80,000+ people, and it would sell out just as fast as it does in QLD.

I fly up every year to support NSW. I refuse to goto the NSW games however.

the problem is both pricing and anz.

sitting in 600 they are charging 130 - 150 for seats with poor views. they should be no more than $50 - $75.

even though homebush has more seats to sell, Cat A tickets in sydney are still more expensive than in queensland.

putting around 15,000 tickets at around $25 each would guarantee a sellout each year
 

PARRA_FAN

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We will get a decent next Wednesday, dont you worry.

I reckon the best idea to improve crowds is tell people that you havent been selling well. Like last Friday night's test.

Nothing to do with taking the game away from Sydney, I mean how ridiculous, I mean theyre gonna get over 70,000.

Besides I think next year the second or third game will be in Melbourne.
 

brendothejet

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Got an email offer from NRL.com that if you buy a Category 3 or 4 ticket you get 3 free passes to any NRL game at ANZ. Might be worth doing me thinks. It looks like they are getting desperate though.

I don't know if that is desperation or just clever.

Think about it. If 50-60-70 thousand people all got 3 passes to an NRL game at ANZ then that has the potential to put another 210000 people at matches this season.

Those people go to the game once for free, might decide they want to get more into supporting their team and head out again.

Lifts crowd averages, exposure and income.

Its not like they are taking seats away from Joe Citizen and he can't go watch South Sydney v Melbourne at ANZ because of it.

unless everyone turned up the same day. lol
 

salivor

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Timmy just still doesn't get it. Look at last year. Queensland had 2 matches to sell, a total of 104967 people attended both games combined, 2 complete sell outs and both matches sold within a matter of hours if my memory serves me correctly. NSW had just one game to sell and could only manage 76924, not a sell out. Keep making excuses, the facts are that this game should've sold out in 5 seconds flat, regardless of whether this rumour is true or not, it shouldn't exist as there shouldn't be any tickets left. We're talking about the biggest match outside of the Grand Final, there are no excuses to be made.
 

Quidgybo

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the ARL did show some balls against news ltd.

remember the SL war.

what we have today is just a sad reflection of what owning a multi billion dollar company with politicans in your back pocket can achieve
No, what happened during the SL war has very little to do with how the ARL uses the power it has in the post settlement landscape. The ARL owns 50% of the NRL and thus has an effective veto over any major NRL decision - such as accepting TV deals. Yet the ARL failed to use that power to prevent News Ltd selling the TV rights to itself for arguable less than what they were worth. If the ARL are struggling for money then really the buck has to stop at the top of their own organisation - Colin Love and Geoff Carr. They have the power to curb the excesses of News Ltd and they are failing to use it. In turn that is leading other decisions to be made purely on the profit motive instead of based on what helps build the game and spread the gospel across Australia - ie. the charter of the ARL.

Leigh.
 

brendothejet

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okay so QLD had to sell out 104976...

well this year NSW has to sell 167000

just a few more don't you think? Like, the entire capacity of Suncorp again!
 

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