2nd 3-Mobile Test @ Adelaide Oval:: Nov 28-Dec 2 :: Australia won by Inns and 62 runs

[typicalfan]

dont remember Sehwag getting 12 in a match though, And Sehwag is a much much bigger spinner of the ball than Hauritz

 

[lockyno1]

Hardly, both spin it the same amount...

 

[hineyrulz]

Tommorrow will be Hauries last day of test cricket ever

We can only hope......

 

[typicalfan]

Hardly, both spin it the same amount...

haha no way, Sehwag could turn it on glass better than Hauritz did day 1 in Adelaide.

 

[byrne_rovelli_fan82]

Black Caps have it all ahead of them tomorrow. Have a good run rate avoid wickets falling and we might be all right. Best not to look at the bigger picture, just yet.

 

[JJ]

Haurie will be the difference tommorrow

No, the difference is our batting lineup's complete inability to be disciplined and show any courage or intelligence... The test is very "savable" on a flat wicket with a pretty much toothless Australian attack. To me there's been very little between the two attacks in the series, it's all about our rubbish batting

 

[attila_the_gorilla]

I wouldn`t really call our attack on par with the Aussies. They have two genuine quickies, that makes a big difference on less benign pitches. Brett Lee is very good with swing both ways. And Stuart Clark is a class act.

Our quicks have no real pace and can only swing it one way, and that`s on a good day.

 

[JJ]

I wouldn`t really call our attack on par with the Aussies. They have two genuine quickies, that makes a big difference on less benign pitches. Brett Lee is very good with swing both ways. And Stuart Clark is a class act.

Our quicks have no real pace and can only swing it one way, and that`s on a good day.

In terms of actual performance there's been little difference...

Mitchell Johnson just isn't very good - yes he troubles our lineup, but that's because we're hopeless, and get twitchy at any pace above 135km/h. But yes, he's quick... no he doesn't swing the ball, he's no threat of lbw or bowled, and he gets most of his wickets when players try to smash loose deliveries.

Brett Lee - remains an enigma - in helpful conditions and in odis he's very good. But the extreme pace seems to be gone, and I'm puzzled by why you think he's very good... in tests, he's just not that good

Stuart Clark - he's the best of them, and very high quality bowler

Nathan Hauritz.... a net bowler at best... Aaron Redmond bitch slapping him says it all really, only Redmond's apparent lack of a brain saved him

 

[Twizzle]

I wouldn`t really call our attack on par with the Aussies. They have two genuine quickies, that makes a big difference on less benign pitches. Brett Lee is very good with swing both ways. And Stuart Clark is a class act.

Our quicks have no real pace and can only swing it one way, and that`s on a good day.

I agree

I bet Southee wishes he was bowling at the Gabba again, he hasn't shown much on a non responsive pitch, needs more variation in his bowling, 2 types of deliveries isn't enough at this level and he lacks pace.

On the upside, he is still young and has alot of developing to go through yet.

 

[JJ]

Southee's very much a work in progress - I think he will pick up a bit of pace if he's managed properly (i.e., not overbowled) - to me it was probably a poor decision to play him on this wicket - he's still very much a kid, although I'd imagine he'll have learned a lot from bowling at such a great lineup

 

[African Monkey]

Brett Lee is very good with swing both ways.

:?

I've only seen him swing it one way.

 

[Bigfella]

Australia's greatest problem at the moment is the lack of penetration with the new ball.

Last few series have seen openers getting away to 40, 50 and in India, well over 100. That has happenened to us on a regular basis for a long time.

Lee in particular has bowled awfully with the new ball.

I think Johnson is a much better bowler than most people on here do but I also don't think he is necessarily the answer either. He may bowl too many loose balls and not gain any real advantage with swing etc. He is most likely to swing an aging ball and doesn't need a new ball to help his pace either.

We consistently lost the battle of the new ball (both batting and bowling) in India which hurt us really badly. Same thing happened in the Ashes series in England.

We can't afford to have it happen against the SAFers.

And really I'd love to have a wrist spinner against them because historically they play them so badly.

I think we will rely heavily on Johnson to get Kallis and Peterson in the next few big series. He is the one who can bother top batsmen with his pace and draw the false shot with his angle.

Clark is bowling well at times but bowlers have to take wickets. Lee is underperforming badly. Even when he went through the tail the other day I reckon Johnson shook them up a lot more with his pace and bounmce than Lee did.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

I wouldn`t really call our attack on par with the Aussies. They have two genuine quickies, that makes a big difference on less benign pitches. Brett Lee is very good with swing both ways. And Stuart Clark is a class act.

Our quicks have no real pace and can only swing it one way, and that`s on a good day.

wow ... what TV do you have? i haven't seen him consistantly swing it anyway in tests ... he's an ODI bowler being used in tests

 

[Twizzle]

I've only seen him swing it one way.

he also bowls reverse swing

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

yeah sorry i forgot about all that reverse swing he got in india :roll:

 

[Twizzle]

he was bowling around the wicket swinging the ball away from the kiwis left handers in the first innings

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

i must've missed that because i do remember completely sh*tty first and second spells then cleaning up the tail ...

he swings maybe 2 out 20 balls outside of his first 5 overs

 

[JJ]

Lee's a great odi bowler, and a pretty mediocre test bowler - always has been and always will be... you could have Chris Martin and not lose anything (apart from occasional runs with the bat)

 

[attila_the_gorilla]

Lee was reverse swinging the ball from around the 15th over in the first innings, and our batsmen had no clue what was happening. Some balls swung into the right hander, some balls went straight on, depending on where the shiny side was facing. None of our bowlers can do this, maybe Southee in very helpful conditions.

 

[Dutchy]

Redmond = Fail