The Cronulla Sharks have proposed the NRL give hand-outs to all clubs

[Ausguy]

I do find it amusing that supporters of other sydney clubs cant wait for cronulla to move to adelaide.... do they think that that would save 1 or a number of sydney teams from going under???

A team that moves to adelaide is the death sentance for other sydney clubs. Its not like cronulla fans will go for souths cos the sharks moved, i guarantee that.

Lets say they did go to adelaide.... it would leave some sydney clubs feeling quite vulnerable and alone

if i had a choice of my team surviving in another state id take it, i wouldnt be happy but better than going under... if you say otherwise your a liar.

 

[DaSuperHero2]

When people understand economics , there structures , there climatic conditions , they will understand.

Lets look at this in a lateral way in its basic form.



This is a extremely basic look at things ;

Price - Cronulla are making no money , lack of numbers , no premiership since berth and prices are NRL standard if not higher.

Place - Small area , covering little part of Sydney , Saints Georges little brother , only a few suburbs covered compared to most clubs who have viable access to decent amounts of juniors

Product - Rugby League is a beautiful game , a masterminds game , although when the brand is not strong enough in this area or not marketed enough from a weak board , the product will suffer.

Promotion - This is useless at Cronulla , I wont even start here.



Note ; this is a extremely basic look at it , but you get the jist its not "economically viable"

 

[hillbillyjazzer1954]

You mean a Parra supporter.

sorry for the insult Loudy, my mistake........i think hell froze over , thawed and then froze over again,though

 

[fatshark]

When people understand economics , there structures , there climatic conditions , they will understand.

Lets look at this in a lateral way in its basic form.



This is a extremely basic look at things ;

Price - Cronulla are making no money , lack of numbers , no premiership since berth and prices are NRL standard if not higher.

Place - Small area , covering little part of Sydney , Saints Georges little brother , only a few suburbs covered compared to most clubs who have viable access to decent amounts of juniors

Product - Rugby League is a beautiful game , a masterminds game , although when the brand is not strong enough in this area or not marketed enough from a weak board , the product will suffer.

Promotion - This is useless at Cronulla , I wont even start here.



Note ; this is a extremely basic look at it , but you get the jist its not "economically viable"

St Georges little brother? Then why are Stgeorge junior teams coming to the shire to play?
1) the juniour teams in Kogarah are to small in some age groups
2) They play to what we say eg, ALL games to be played in the shire..
little brother pffft

Small area , covering little part of Sydney

one of the largest growing population areas in Australia buddy, you really have no clue.
Has THE strongest RL school team in Sydney (Endeavour Sports high)

Lets look at this in a lateral way in its basic form

very basic and poorly researched...you get a F

 

[DaSuperHero2]

Glad to see in my whole post you picked to argue about the most irrelevant part.

I know it hurts man,but your club is going to be "ashes to ashes , dust to dust"

 

[Generalzod]

Glad to see in my whole post you picked to argue about the most irrelevant part.

I know it hurts man,but your club is going to be "ashes to ashes , dust to dust"

Dust to Dust really Pal where still The Cronulla Sutherland Sharks....................Unlike yours you had to merge to survive...

 

[bluey]

GO you sharkies, ignore all this negativity.

 

[super_coach]

The Sharks might be right, if the global meltdown keeps getting bigger than their will be plenty of clubs needing help.

Although till the league comes up with some package clubs have to pull the money belt in and Iam afraid the Sharks have raced out and signed every player they could get their hands on while in a hell of a lot of debt.

You have to help yourself before asking others to help you.

 

[Nemesis]

No one is disagreeing with what Zappia has suggested... but it appears somewhat hypocritical to the rest of the RL community that he is leading the push for NRL handouts when his own club is showing little restraint in these tough economic times and has still been signing players i.e. Maitua, Afamasaga etc.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

I do find it amusing that supporters of other sydney clubs cant wait for cronulla to move to adelaide.... do they think that that would save 1 or a number of sydney teams from going under???

There might be agendas from the supporters of other Sydney clubs but the fact is that a team in Adelaide would strengthen the comp and the team that decides to move there.

I don't care if it's Cronulla or another Sydney club but if we have a team there it'll increase the NRL's revenue and tv rights deal which will filter down to the clubs, making them stronger aswell.

For the club who does decide to move there it will be like winning the lottery. Extra help from the NRL and not to mention sharing the city with only two AFL teams. (compared to Sydney split between 9 NRL clubs, 1 S14 team and 1 AFL team).

 

[Loudstrat]

There might be agendas from the supporters of other Sydney clubs but the fact is that a team in Adelaide would strengthen the comp and the team that decides to move there.

I don't care if it's Cronulla or another Sydney club but if we have a team there it'll increase the NRL's revenue and tv rights deal which will filter down to the clubs, making them stronger aswell.

For the club who does decide to move there it will be like winning the lottery. Extra help from the NRL and not to mention sharing 1 million people with only two AFL teams. (compared to the 4M people split between 9 NRL clubs, 1 S14 team and 1 AFL team in Sydney).

The only way Adeliade will strengthen the comp is if their average home crowd is bigger than whoever they replace. It is entirely doubtful that any more TV subscriptions will be generated, nor that sponsorship income will rise.

A new team will have to bring numbers sufficient to overcome a shortfall of interest created by the loss of an existing club.

 

[Ausguy]

i just think we have done it before... it didnt work same as perth. why do they think it will work this time...? whats different? if anything its a much worse time to do it...

gallop says its not even in his sights, he has said his on radio numerous times... but if a sydney team chooses to go he will accept it? he is a puppet.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

The only way Adeliade will strengthen the comp is if their average home crowd is bigger than whoever they replace. It is entirely doubtful that any more TV subscriptions will be generated, nor that sponsorship income will rise.

A new team will have to bring numbers sufficient to overcome a shortfall of interest created by the loss of an existing club.

The Rams crowds in their first season were higher than many Sydney clubs are today, a decade later. There is no doubt in my mind that they will get good support from day one.

Sponsorship will increase because it means the NRL has another city of 1M+ preople that the ads will be exposed to. The club itself will find it easier to get sponsors as it won't have to compete with as many teams and there will be new SA-based sponsors available that previously weren't interested in backing an NRL team.

Compared to saturated Sydney, Adelaide is almost empty. A smart club would have a sh*tload of growth potential if they moved there.



This is all short term too. Long term it'll open up a whole new state of future players and supporters of the NRL. This is the big plus imo. Even if Adelaide only get 12,000 for their first decade it's still better than a Sydney team averaging 12,000 as it's exposing the game to new fans/sponsors.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

i just think we have done it before... it didnt work same as perth. why do they think it will work this time...? whats different? if anything its a much worse time to do it...

I just cannot understand the negativity of some people.

Adelaide had a team during the most turmultous time in the comps history, it was kicked out after just two seasons though no fault of its own and recieved nothing like the support it should've recieved as a team in a key expansion area.

The difference between now and then is massive. Look at the Gold Coast for an example. They had a club before but it was unlucky and didn't reach its potential. The NRL gave them another shot and now look at them: massive support, big crowds, knocking back sponsors, etc.

Why do you think the same can't be done in WA and SA?

 

[Miller was a legend]

What makes everyone think the Sharks would "relocate" to Adelaide? Don't be surprised if they actually develop Adelaide as their second home and play games their each year. That may well be the winning combination for Sydney Clubs. The Sharks are not only playing in Adelaide this year but are running development programs their both well before their planned games and well after.

Hate Cronulla or not, that my fellow league supporters is what our clubs should endeavour to do fir the future of our game. This activity will assist to delelop the support in those centres and call the club what you like, Cronulla or Southern Sharks, I think its the right direction. I commend other clubs doing the same.

In fact, all the knockers who are bagging Cronulla about it's financial position, consder this. have they changed their mind and said we cannot run programs in Adelaide? No they intend to follow through with it. So how about all the financial experts who base their comments on teh Daily Telegraph pull their heads in and look at the positives that this and other clubs are doing

 

[Dragon_psa]

"niel your bedroom's on fire!"

"Nobody ever listens to me. I might as well be a Leonard Cohen record."

"If I had a penny for every time I had to answer the door, I'd have five pounds sixty three."

"I'd better get back to the lentl casserole before I get disorientated"

 

[Different kind of Rabbit]

"Nobody ever listens to me. I might as well be a Leonard Cohen record."

"If I had a penny for every time I had to answer the door, I'd have five pounds sixty three."

"I'd better get back to the lentl casserole before I get disorientated"

"That's because your so bloody boring!"

 

[doggone]

his own club is showing little restraint in these tough economic times and has still been signing players i.e. Maitua, Afamasaga etc.

Exactly, i have no sympathy they have everything going for them ,new grandstand great facilities, Aust Coach, rep players and they still can't get their act together and make a profit. you only need a few parasites to attract more to bring the building down.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

You should be happy the Bulldogs are doing that. If the Bulldogs accept it, it starts to set a precedence around the league that Clubs can be sponsored cheaper. As well something for the media to add to there "League is dying" stories.

Yeah the dogs have always been there to look out for other clubs best interests and the game itself. Like cheating the salary cap, rape scandals etc.

 

[adamkungl]

When people understand economics , there structures , there climatic conditions , they will understand.

Lets look at this in a lateral way in its basic form.



This is a extremely basic look at things ;

Price - Cronulla are making no money , lack of numbers , no premiership since berth and prices are NRL standard if not higher.

Place - Small area , covering little part of Sydney , Saints Georges little brother , only a few suburbs covered compared to most clubs who have viable access to decent amounts of juniors

Product - Rugby League is a beautiful game , a masterminds game , although when the brand is not strong enough in this area or not marketed enough from a weak board , the product will suffer.

Promotion - This is useless at Cronulla , I wont even start here.



Note ; this is a extremely basic look at it , but you get the jist its not "economically viable"

That's because your mind is extremely basic. Go away nutjob