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How long does Henry have left?

AuckMel

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They might have the Bledisloe, but surely his days are numbered?

Bring back the man who should have got the job after the last World Cup.
 

KHunt

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Sorry but that's wrong.

Previous years NZ have dominated between WC and choked at the big stage. This time they aren't doing well so who knows what might happen. Sacking the coach won't do any favours.
 

shiznit

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They might have the Bledisloe, but surely his days are numbered?

Bring back the man who should have got the job after the last World Cup.
:lol:

idiot....

theres nothing wrong with the coaching staff... its by far the best on the planet. anyone that actually knows RU would crawl over broken glass to get a coaching team like thar for there national team.

we were just beaten by a better side.... it can actually happen some times....

you wanna give it to Deans?? you have no f**king idea...
 

African Monkey

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:lol: Robbie Deans.

South Africa are just a very good side atm. We were in South Africa's position from 2005-2007 before losing in the WC.

Atm, we are still trying to find the right combinations for 2011 so in a way these tests don't matter in the long run. I certainly don't mind losing these tests it's what we take out of these games and finding out who is and isn't up to the big occasion.
 

AuckMel

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shiznit said:
:lol:

idiot....

Was there really any need for the abuse?

shiznit said:
theres nothing wrong with the coaching staff... its by far the best on the planet. anyone that actually knows RU would crawl over broken glass to get a coaching team like thar for there national team.

we were just beaten by a better side.... it can actually happen some times....

LoL

If these guys are so great, why are they losing 3 tests to the Boks and only narrowly beating a pretty poor Wallaby team?

shiznit said:
you wanna give it to Deans?? you have no f**king idea...

Should have got it after Henry guided the ABs to their last World Cup failure.
 

AuckMel

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African Monkey said:
I certainly don't mind losing these tests it's what we take out of these games and finding out who is and isn't up to the big occasion.

Hmmm. Since our only win in the inaugural World Cup, which was minus SA, and despite years of domination, we've yet to find a team capable of stepping up to the big occasion.

What's going to change this time?
 

African Monkey

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By keeping the same coaching staff which will be the first time that a coaching staff will be taking us to back to back world cups. They would have learnt from what had happened from the last WC.

And btw, it's not hard taking sides stacked with quality all blacks to Super rugby titles.
 

Te Kaha

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Should have got it after Henry guided the ABs to their last World Cup failure.

How quickly you forget it was Deans and Deans alone that cost the All Blacks in 2003 his decision to play Rangi at centre instead of a fit Umaga cost the Alll Blacks the game.. so Henry and team have lost the same amount of World cups as Deans has....

And lets not forget... Deans has not set the world onfire as coach of the wobbilies...

The All Blacks have always peaked mid world cup... now they can build towards peaking during a world cup.
 

AuckMel

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Sorry TK, but the All Blacks used to peak for 3 years, 11 months, and 2 weeks, and losing was never considered an option.

I hope Henry can bring it home in 2011, but I remain doubtful.
 

shiznit

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Was there really any need for the abuse?

yeah well when you start a thread about something you have NFI about you deserve everything you get.

LoL

If these guys are so great, why are they losing 3 tests to the Boks and only narrowly beating a pretty poor Wallaby team?

this coaching staff have won 5 tri-nations in a row... they have never lost the bledisloe cup... they whitewashed the lions... they have won 2 european grand slams... they have a 87% winning record.

and your wanting to sack them because they were narrowly been beaten by one of the greatest springbok sides EVER.

like i said earlier... youve got no f**king idea what your talking about.... hence why your an idiot.

Should have got it after Henry guided the ABs to their last World Cup failure.

once again... your an idiot... Deans was probably the key reason we lost the 03 cup... and he hasnt shown anything from the wannabies which have convinced us otherwise... whats there head to head record by the way??? Henry 5... Deans 1. :lol:
 

Te Kaha

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Sorry TK, but the All Blacks used to peak for 3 years, 11 months, and 2 weeks, and losing was never considered an option.

I hope Henry can bring it home in 2011, but I remain doubtful.

And anybody who thinks that way is dreaming.... seriously... no team can go undefeated all the time, not that the AB's ever did... you do know that they have lost 3-0 or 4-0 to SA several times over the years... this is just another of those times...

And if you look closely they DO peak between cups... and then find it hard to maintain that level for the next two years... SA will be the same.. they wont be able to hold this team together that long... The All Blacks are just a couple of players short of being back to their best... Williams will be back, smith will be back and Haymen should be back as well...
 

Parra

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The AB's might go well in the Golden Oldies world cup. Better hope the games are over by 4pm - wouldn't want to be late for dinner.
 

Te Kaha

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The AB's might go well in the Golden Oldies world cup. Better hope the games are over by 4pm - wouldn't want to be late for dinner.

How come this "old" team can still holds the Bledisloe then??? the AB's are that bad that must mean the wannabies must REALLY be crap.
 

shiznit

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The AB's might go well in the Golden Oldies world cup. Better hope the games are over by 4pm - wouldn't want to be late for dinner.
you monkeys cant even beat us at our worst.

what makes you think your going to come close us at our best???

and you want to talk about 'old'...

let me remind you who have won the Jr World Championships the last 2 years in a row.

you guys sh*t yourselves over our current team... wait until you guys see the likes of Aaron Cruden & Robbie Robinson...

you guys HAVE NOTHING!!!

actually... let me re-phrase that... you guys have a kiwi coach.... who only went to you guys because he was REJECTED by us because he wasnt good enough.

and your best young player is a Kiwi... and admits to being an all black fan... YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHING!!!

ohhh wait... i forgot about the great kurtley beale... :lol:
 

AuckMel

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shiznit said:
this coaching staff have won 5 tri-nations in a row... they have never lost the bledisloe cup... they whitewashed the lions... they have won 2 european grand slams... they have a 87% winning record.

BFD. We want a World Cup.

shiznit said:
and your wanting to sack them because they were narrowly been beaten by one of the greatest springbok sides EVER.

I didn't say them. And oddly enough, those "monkeys" as you called them have managed a win over them. Guess that makes you the idiot and the All Blacks the monkeys.

shiznit said:
once again... your an idiot... Deans was probably the key reason we lost the 03 cup... and he hasnt shown anything from the wannabies which have convinced us otherwise... whats there head to head record by the way??? Henry 5... Deans 1. :lol:

LoL

5-1 and even you admit the Wallabies are a bunch of monkeys.

Graham Henry has failed to deliver what really matters and that's a World Cup. He was lucky to get another chance after his team was knocked out in the 1/4ers last time.

No doubt this great coaching team will get the same treatment all the other failed coaches got if they don't bring home the bacon in 2011.
 
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