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Patrick Smith gives it to Gould

butchmcdick

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Fools to the north, dunderheads to the south
  • <LI class="byline first ">Patrick Smith <LI class="source ">From: The Australian <LI class="date-and-time ">April 27, 2010 12:00AM
THIS is a reminder. Well, no it's not, it is more than that.

It is a sharp jab to the likes of Phil Gould up north and passionate but thick-headed Victorians down south that the villain in this Melbourne Storm scandal is not the NRL boss David Gallop. Nor is it salary cap scrooge Ian Schubert.
The only people who are to be criticised over Storm's five-year sting that corrupted the NRL competition are those Storm officials who deliberately acted outside the salary cap rules. No doubt the two investigations that start today into the Storm's business practices will identify who did what. They are the ones who deserve our scorn. What these investigations will not find is that Gallop or Schubert played any part in duping the competition and paying players over the salary cap.



So Gould and his like and the loyal but brain-dead Victorians should look elsewhere as they weep about the state of the NRL.

That is not to say Gould has not delighted us with his logic. After Gallop's administration - with the full support of Storm owners News Ltd (publisher of The Australian) and the other 15 clubs - took all of Melbourne's points this season and ruled that it could not accrue any for the rest of the season, took away two premierships and three minor titles, after they fined the club $500,000 and demanded the return of $1.1 million in prizemoney, Gould demanded that the NRL find a "can-do" management style. That is breathtaking, Phil.

The response in Victoria to the Storm's corruption and consequent punishment has been a telling illustration that rugby league has cut a niche into the state's sporting psyche much deeper and broader than most believed. Sunday night's game drew a tram short of 24,000 people and no doubt helped drive the players' trouncing of the Warriors. It would be most reassuring to Gallop and News Ltd, owner of Storm, and something to rejoice had it come in different circumstances. Nonetheless, the story has driven the AFL off the front and back pages for a run of four days. Not even soccer's World Cup in June is likely to do that.

Over the weekend of Anzac Day AFL matches, the most prominent issue on the pre-match radio shows was not Sydney, Collingwood, Brisbane or Geelong, but the Storm.

The morning after the story broke last Thursday, SEN, Melbourne's 24-hour sports station found the dominant theme was the Storm. On the morning show from nine o'clock through to noon, the dominant topic was the Storm. So much so that the first hour - historically devoted to the AFL round of matches coming up - did not take one AFL call but was overrun with Storm supporters. In that hour the station received more than 500 text messages, all addressing not the AFL but the Storm's crushing penalties.
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gain yesterday, the overriding topic on talkback was the Storm. Even on a public holiday morning and after an AFL round in which previously unbeaten sides Brisbane and St Kilda suffered their first losses, everybody wanted to talk about the Storm.
The central issues in Victoria and for the Goulds of the world up north are, one, that the NRL is resisting any push for the Storm to take a range of salary cuts to fit under the cap; two, no matter what it does it cannot earn any points for the rest of the season, and finally that the Storm developed these players and therefore are entitled to keep them. It is the thinking of simple minds.

The reason the salary cap is in place is to maintain as even a competition as possible and stop one or two wealthy clubs buying the best players in the land year after year. Without the cap, the poorer clubs would become chronically weak and sooner rather than later curl up and die.

The only method that allowed the Storm to collect such a talented team was to deliberately work outside and around the salary cap rules. So the present Storm squad has been collected illegally. Even if the players took pay cuts and squeezed in under the salary cap, every other club would be disadvantaged because they had no opportunity to recruit a similar strength team.

Under such circumstances it is only fair the Storm cannot accrue points for this season. Only when the team is broken up by strict application of the salary cap should it be allowed to compete for points.
And that won't happen until next year at the earliest.

The NRL erred in 2002 when it allowed the Bulldogs, big-time salary cap rorters, to remain together by taking pay cuts.
A team that was marshalled outside game's rules proceeded to just miss the grand final in 2003 and won the premiership in 2004. Rorting the cap was rewarded. The NRL has learnt from such a lenient approach.
It is irrelevant that the Storm turned some of its players into elite league athletes. What is germane is what happened once they became stars. It is what the Storm did to retain them that is central to this argument. And we know that was to cheat the competition.

It is hypocritical to argue that the Storm has nothing to play for. Coach Craig Bellamy and his players have been adamant that a determination to retain their integrity and dignity will be force enough. Sunday night's win might be the first chapter in one of the great sport stories. A group of players who refused to bow.

When the Bulldogs were stripped of 37 points in 2002 people hardly drenched talkback radio with the unfairness of it all. No, Gould has got this wrong because he lacks a proper understanding of the purpose of the salary cap, tangled up with what appears an irrational dislike of the NRL and its boss. As for the Victorians, well, they might love their Storm more than they understand right from wrong.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ads-to-the-south/story-e6frg7t6-1225858535450

Not a bad article from an AFL scribe.
 

LESStar58

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AS much as I hate to admit it Smith is right. More often than not he's just a wanker who gets up on his moral high ground but he has a point about the Melbourne/Victorian public . I'm a Storm fan but we can't blame Gallop, the NRL or Ian Schubert; they were just doing their jobs.

However, I am livid with the administration who masterminded the rort and I will be bitterly disappointed with any of our current players who had knowledge of this. The greed and agendas of these individuals is what became our undoing and I just hope that the club and the game can recover. In the meantime, I will take comfort in the knowledge that Brian Waldron's career is ruined and that anyone else involved will get their comeuppance eventually

What I do agree with Gould on however is that the salary cap is paltry compared to other sports and over time he has stated that the games current structure and ownership punishes players because it limits their earning capacity (remember his article on cutie last year). Wether or not this latest development causes a rethink in the cap remains to be seen.

In short; Smith is right to give it to the "braindead Victorians" but I think he's a little hasty by taking aim at Gus.
 

gronkathon

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Difference is Smith seems to have more of an understanding than Gould about the reality of a higher cap level if not done properly.

Look at the AFL these days. You have 4 or 5 teams just about guaranteed to get belted every week because they can't afford to spend the full cap. We need to keep increases in line with the growth of the grant from the NRL to keep a sustainably competitive competition.

As a fan of the NRL in general I can state that since they have left I have not pined for Harmichael, the Fubster or $BW and the games popularity has grown in spite of their abscense
 

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As a fan of the NRL in general I can state that since they have left I have not pined for Harmichael, the Fubster or $BW and the games popularity has grown in spite of their abscense

The Broncos could sure do with cutie at the moment.
 

Pierced Soul

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As a fan of the NRL in general I can state that since they have left I have not pined for Harmichael, the Fubster or $BW and the games popularity has grown in spite of their abscense

who's fubster?

I agree that the comp hasnt skipped a beat, and at the end of the day if a player wants to elave cos of money then i say let them, but what happens when we start losing mroe than a few big name plaeyrs? what happens when we have a mass exodus of not only established stars but young players? i dont want to see players like dugan, lawrence, croker, pearce, fifita, morris (2), barba and the like forced out of the NRL cos their value goes up.

i dislike $bw, but the comp is stronger with him playing in it, just as the return of tuquiri has been massive

we do need a higher salary cap but to do that we need a better tv/media deal than what we have and clubs need to be more proactive with their revenue streams. yes the pokie tax is here, get over it and start looking at other ways to make money. let every player have 3rd party deals, as long as the deal isnt with a club sponsor then who cares if subway want to pay george rose $200k to eat their subs?
 

gronkathon

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Fubster is Gasnier.

I agree with an increase in the cap but it has to be at a level every club can afford and to do that the NRL grant must rise with it
 

chrisD

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who's fubster?

I agree that the comp hasnt skipped a beat, and at the end of the day if a player wants to elave cos of money then i say let them, but what happens when we start losing mroe than a few big name plaeyrs? what happens when we have a mass exodus of not only established stars but young players? i dont want to see players like dugan, lawrence, croker, pearce, fifita, morris (2), barba and the like forced out of the NRL cos their value goes up.

i dislike $bw, but the comp is stronger with him playing in it, just as the return of tuquiri has been massive

we do need a higher salary cap but to do that we need a better tv/media deal than what we have and clubs need to be more proactive with their revenue streams. yes the pokie tax is here, get over it and start looking at other ways to make money. let every player have 3rd party deals, as long as the deal isnt with a club sponsor then who cares if subway want to pay george rose $200k to eat their subs?

The always coming but never arriving exodus. The salary cap was not created or set with the idea that it will never again rise.
 

Noa

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Patrick Smith, is there a less credible person to talk about League, especailly when it involves his masters.
 
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The reason the salary cap is in place is to maintain as even a competition as possible and stop one or two wealthy clubs buying the best players in the land year after year. Without the cap, the poorer clubs would become chronically weak and sooner rather than later curl up and die.

The only method that allowed the Storm to collect such a talented team was to deliberately work outside and around the salary cap rules. So the present Storm squad has been collected illegally. Even if the players took pay cuts and squeezed in under the salary cap, every other club would be disadvantaged because they had no opportunity to recruit a similar strength team.


Rubbish.

I agree fully with the NRL's decision, including the inability of the Storm to accrue points this season.

But this guy is missing the point. The Storm didn't recruit a winning team. They signed young, unproven players with potential and made champions out of them. Success depends sooo much on coaching and team culture.

What Gould and just about everyone involved in the game (players and coaches) want is an ability for teams to RETAIN players that they made. It's not good in any way that players are made to leave a close-knit team and culture that has grown up together, because teams are not allowed to reward their players' success.
 

hunters

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Patrick Smith, is there a less credible person to talk about League, especailly when it involves his masters.
Which part of this article can you argue against? I don't know Patrick Smith's past work but he is spot on here.
 

mickdo

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You wouldnt hear anything.

If youve never heard him on Radio he is exactly the same. Talks over the top of people and hs opinion is always the right one.

Sounds like the perfect matchup then
 
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