Rothfield: Cronk was going to sign with Eels last Wednesday

[ROGUE]

Oh well ce la vie lets now lets get used to the fact we're getting ox or noddy.....allegedly of course

 

[The EELiminator]

Oh well ce la vie lets now lets get used to the fact we're getting ox or noddy.....allegedly of course

we might be getting ox or noddy we've got jack sh*t at the moment

 

[little_aza]

I'm certainly no expert in the area but I was of the opinion that....


Once the Storm has the rights to the player and they are still under contract (either of the two signed) they are under no obligation to release him.
If they do release him I believe they can place restrictions on him like "we will only release you to a non finals team" or "anyone but Parra" etc..
It happens ALL THE TIME when a player wants to break a contract.
Think Hannant only being released to a QLD team by the Dogs. Think SBW not playing for another NRL team bar the Dogs upon a possible return from thugby. Once the original contract period that the player is trying to break has ended then the player is once again a free agent.
If they release him from a contract with no restrictions he would be a true "free agent". If released with restrictions or demands in place then he would be somewhat a "restricted free agent".

IMO restriction of trade is just a phurphy.

Exactly. Once a player is contracted (whether that may be over the Salary Cap or not), they are the only authority who can grant a release. No one else.

 

[TheParraboy]

I wonder what Mrs Cronk thinks about the Storm's attitude in stopping her husband earning another $150 k's a year?

Suity

She should have gone after and married Orlando Bloom?

 

[Glenn]

Exactly. Once a player is contracted (whether that may be over the Salary Cap or not), they are the only authority who can grant a release. No one else.

Of course it is only the Storm that can grant the release, but they can't dictate the terms of the release (ie who he can go to)

 

[Djay]

Of course it is only the Storm that can grant the release, but they can't dictate the terms of the release (ie who he can go to)

I'm sure they'll try.:x

 

[caylo]

Of course it is only the Storm that can grant the release, but they can't dictate the terms of the release (ie who he can go to)

Unless ther is mitigating circumstances like in cases of Lyon and SBW

 

[Glenn]

IIRC Fitzy tried stipulating where Judas could or couldn't go, but in the end relented.
As for $BW wasn't it a blanket ban on the NRL by the govering body,after he jumped ship to Union.

 

[caylo]

IIRC Fitzy tried stipulating where Judas could or couldn't go, but in the end relented.
As for $BW wasn't it a blanket ban on the NRL by the govering body,after he jumped ship to Union.

That is not true, Fitzy stopped any chance of him going to Manly because it was a City enviroment just like Parramatta but he said that he would not hold him back form going to penrith.

 

[ROGUE]

That is not true, Fitzy stopped any chance of him going to Manly because it was a City enviroment just like Parramatta but he said that he would not hold him back form going to penrith.

Thats right jamie didn't like the city did he:lol: I also remember the article where his grandma said that we sent him to a private school and he had to wear a tie.....Jamie apparently didn't like wearing a tie

 

[jono]

Thats right jamie didn't like the city did he:lol: I also remember the article where his grandma said that we sent him to a private school and he had to wear a tie.....Jamie apparently didn't like wearing a tie

So we all remember , he didn't like the city , so where does he go?
ENGLAND where they squeeze 59million people into the area the size of Tasmania. 246 people per sq km compared to Australia 2!
Yeah , right ,doesn't like the city.

 

[Fathead]

The name Jamie Lyon should never be spoken about on these forums unless its in the context of a sentence regarding his demise.

 

[Uncle Leo]

That is not true, Fitzy stopped any chance of him going to Manly because it was a City enviroment just like Parramatta but he said that he would not hold him back form going to penrith.

Actually, Crusher had been let go from the Eels and had returned to Manly. Lyon lived with Crusher and wanted to follow him to Manly. There were a few reasons why he wanted a release from the Eels.

 

[strider]

yeah - a team can dictate the terms of a release if a player wants out .... the player can have some bargaining power if the team wants to get rid of him, but thats not the case with cronk ... the storm can dictate terms if cronk wants to break his deal

we stopped lyon from playing for a city team - and rightly so - the lying pig sprouted all sorts of bullsh*t to squirm out of his contract and good on fitzy for ultimately using it against him

 

[parra pete]

Actually, Crusher had been let go from the Eels and had returned to Manly. Lyon lived with Crusher and wanted to follow him to Manly. There were a few reasons why he wanted a release from the Eels.

There are eight millions stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them. This is another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNRf7Dg0lMg&feature=related

 

[caylo]

yeah - a team can dictate the terms of a release if a player wants out .... the player can have some bargaining power if the team wants to get rid of him, but thats not the case with cronk ... the storm can dictate terms if cronk wants to break his deal

we stopped lyon from playing for a city team - and rightly so - the lying pig sprouted all sorts of bullsh*t to squirm out of his contract and good on fitzy for ultimately using it against him

If a player asks for a release its either yes or no and no in between. If a player asks for a release based on compasionate grounds then that is a differnt senario. Cronk would be asking for a release because he could get 500K on the open market and the storm of over the cap. they cant give him a release with restrictions because that would be against common law even if approved by the NRL.

 

[Stormsally]

Just because Rothfield says so - doesn't make it fact. :roll:

Cronk isn't going anywhere. He has said he doesn't want to be released and is happy to spend the next three years in Melbourne. If you follow the link you can even see him smiling:

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...eep-their-hands-off-cronk-20100729-10y0g.html

 

[MsStorm]

Just because Rothfield says so - doesn't make it fact. :roll:

Cronk isn't going anywhere. He has said he doesn't want to be released and is happy to spend the next three years in Melbourne. If you follow the link you can even see him smiling:

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...eep-their-hands-off-cronk-20100729-10y0g.html

Amen to that. :lol:

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[cv8z]

Just because Rothfield says so - doesn't make it fact. :roll:

Cronk isn't going anywhere. He has said he doesn't want to be released and is happy to spend the next three years in Melbourne. If you follow the link you can even see him smiling:

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...eep-their-hands-off-cronk-20100729-10y0g.html

He was just up here last week for the fishing.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Mate you are mis-reading things. That is not what Suity said.

Both contracts count towards the cap - that is why they went over. Where have you been for the last 3 months?

Actually - no, I wasn't misreading things there, and that's not what I was asking.

Firstly, both contracts did NOT count against the cap, only the second 'larger' one counted for the cap breach. Had the NRL just looked at the 'legal' ones then they would've been fine (why cheat if you can't even get that right). The players weren't getting paid 2 contractual amounts, just one.

example: sign for $650k and lodge a $400k contract at NRL HQ. Player isn't getting $1050k - and the amount that they are over the cap for that contract is $250k (not $650k).

The question I'm asking is: HAS the NRL come out and said that the 'lodged' contracts are the binding ones going forward? Ie, the players 'fake' $650k contract will be thrown in the bin and they will get paid the $400k one. This is a problem for the Storm still since they also arranged 3rd party deals (eg $100k for this hypothetical player) and that amount puts them over the cap and must be counted now. But it'd be a damn shame if they were only over by that amount rather than the full whack.