advantage rule???

[spider]

it's irrelevant where ever ever I was, but for comedic reason why don't you say why that it is pertinent to your point?

 

[Frenzy.]

Seeing as Nullasook made this thread I assume it's one of those "the ref made us lose threads". Right?

 

[shadowboxer]

take the question as you want - i was asking you a relevant question but your fear of being made the butt of some joke clouded your judgement.

For the record, i agree we lost the game ourselves, 13-zip up with 20 something to go and we lose - un-acceptable.

I was far from happy being at the game and for it to go so pear-shaped so quickly is a issue. In saying that, the refs didnt help matters especially at a crucial time of the game - and the fact it was manly really doesnt sit well with anyone.

Im not a conspiracy theorist, i dont think there was biased, i just reckon they fugged up more decisions than they righted.

I havent seen the game on the tele and have interest in sitting thru that again but i am interested in someones perception of it and the reaction from commenators

 

[spider]

take the question as you want - i was asking you a relevant question but your fear of being made the butt of some joke clouded your judgement.

i enjoy a good joke, even at my expense to which plenty in here can vouch for, so unfortunately you are wrong

For the record, i agree we lost the game ourselves, 13-zip up with 20 something to go and we lose - un-acceptable.

i agree - i stated same

I was far from happy being at the game and for it to go so pear-shaped so quickly is a issue. In saying that, the refs didnt help matters especially at a crucial time of the game - and the fact it was manly really doesnt sit well with anyone.

emotion can cloud judgement same as jokes can ;-)

i dont think there was biased,

i agree

I havent seen the game on the tele

i have watched the replay which is why i stand by my view

 

[spider]

one more point, Laurie Daley should be outlawed from commentating on sharks games

he is woeful

 

[BWNB]

Exactly. The requirement of having to go 10m forward was scrapped as of this season.

That is one I think the Ref's got completely wrong last night. Amongst a number of poor decisions. Thing is, we should have won last night and then we'd have the right to bitch about it. The fact we lost makes it come across as us being poor losers.

I will complain if the refs are terrible, think back to the game Vs penrith

 

[Frenzy.]

one more point, Laurie Daley should be outlawed from commentating on sharks games

he is woeful

^this+++++

 

[ratsack2]

I listened on the radio and Warren Ryan went on and on about 2 things during the second half and well after the game

they were
1- when does and advantage rule stop, he said over and over that once they had moved the ball and that it should of been play on

and
2- he went on and on also about 5 penalties to nil, he was gobsmacked with it all

 

[Card Shark]

if that bloke had not coughed it up into Bests hands and was just tackled where he was, I bet my balls the ref would not have taken it back to the original Sharks knock on.

So therefore, advantage would have been assumed taken.

That is the way I see it.

The ref called play on after the manly knock on (he extended his arms like a wide in cricket, which indicated advantage was taken in his mind). Therefore the sharks were entitled to pick it up & run. When we made the break, he changed his decision. If we don't make the break, we keep possession.

It was a day of everything going against us.

 

[spider]

he went on and on also about 5 penalties to nil, he was gobsmacked with it all

And hopefully the I'll discipline will be addressed, and our kicking game, and our bench rotation

 

[spider]

It was a day of everything going against us.

disagree

it didn't rain - who'd of thought it was shark park

 

[Frenzy.]

The ref called play on after the manly knock on (he extended his arms like a wide in cricket, which indicated advantage was taken in his mind). Therefore the sharks were entitled to pick it up & run. When we made the break, he changed his decision. If we don't make the break, we keep possession.

It was a day of everything going against us.

Which ref though? I think that was the "pocket" ref who may of been overuled by the other one.

There's no real way to be sure with this stupid 2 ref system.

 

[++ Gregos v.4]

We were in a position to absorb some of those bad decisions.

Gal had a brain explosion on the 4th when we were down their end late.

Wrighty should have kicked that ball into the stand with 3 seconds to go.

The refs were shocking, I agree, but we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory last night.

We were ten minutes short.

 

[Frenzy.]

We were in a position to absorb some of those bad decisions.

Gal had a brain explosion on the 4th when we were down their end late.

Wrighty should have kicked that ball into the stand with 3 seconds to go.

The refs were shocking, I agree, but we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory last night.

We were ten minutes short.

Not according to coach. 70 minutes are enough aren't they?

 

[++ Gregos v.4]

My point Capn.

 

[Frenzy.]

Yeah I known. I was playing the straight man :lol:

 

[BatteredFlake]

Which ref though? I think that was the "pocket" ref who may of been overuled by the other one.

There's no real way to be sure with this stupid 2 ref system.

Who needs to be sure ??? !!!


When you're coaching a team you try and instill in them an atitude of winning ,inspite of all excuses.Its part of overcoming all obsticles, But in the reality of professional sport a bad call can effect a score , a game and even a season .While you dont want players using it as an excuse ,no team can afford the soft ,fluffy atitude of"it evens out in the end "or "well we should have won anyway so dont complain".
. The squeeky wheel gets the oil .... Human nature sees referees effected by crowds ,media perceptions , coaches hissy fits etc . Who gives a Fug that theres two refs , or that the first half . penalty count was in favour of sharks,or that the sharks were getting away with some other obscure infringement etc.etc. ???All that matters for the Sharks is that it should be in the refs mind that if he does get that critical call wrong against the sharks ,the Crowds going to go off ,The teams going to go off (literally might be an idea since its now so ingrained in the refs minds that sharks are a soft touch itll take something dramatic),and next day that decision is going to be scrutinised by the media .

 

[Nullajet]

Seeing as Nullasook made this thread I assume it's one of those "the ref made us lose threads". Right?

Once again Frenzy you show your lack of class and childishness with name calling!! You never fail to disappoint me!! It is as predictable as your delight in our failures and short comings and general negativity....so keep up the good work.

I am not saying that they made us lose but I was asking the question regarding the 'advantage' rule...which I believe they got wrong...and would have been a certain 6 points for us had the play continued...that is a huge turning point!!

I also question why we were pinged twice in the first half for forward passes from dummy half (one of which i dont think actually was)....yet they dont even think about blowing the whistle on the obvious oen that leads to fat boy diving over for the crucial try!!!

We should have been able to hold on to a 13 point lead and win...YES!!

We could also have been afforeded some more accurate refereeing to hold onto the lead.

 

[++ Gregos v.4]

On the other side of the ledger, AK and Pom were running some hard out blocks that were let slide.

Just sayin'...

 

[Nullajet]

On the other side of the ledger, AK and Pom were running some hard out blocks that were let slide.

Just sayin'...

yeah and that happens every game...

and we got a try given to pom against the stains that we shouldnt have etc etc

there are plenty of things that are incorrect that are good....or BAD..for US (or any team)

But that doesnt mean we shouldn't question some CRUCIAL errors in games.

I just thought the advantage rule in particular was called wrongly...but I am going on my own playing days....maybe it has changed..

apparantly Warren Ryan agrees