Dragons holding NSW back?

[InThatNumber]

The only part of the field that was entirely Dragons was our right hand side ... how often did QLD break through down there?

Oh yeah ... NEVER.

How often in the past did Inglis, Boyd and Thurston carve us to pieces down that side of the field?? Almost every f**king game, that's how often.


What Stuart needs to do is get Hornby and Cooper out of retirement so that QLD can't make metres on either side of the field, and then get Weyman and Hunt so they can't make metres in the middle.

You know it's true.

Damn straight.

 

[j0nesy]

It took the Dragons a good seaonson and half to really click. NSW wont be able to emulate that with a handful of 1 week training camps. Mass changes are not the answer either.

 

[Mr Saab]

What Stuart needs to do is get Cooper out of retirement so that QLD can't make metres on either side of the field, and then get Weyman and Hunt so they can't make metres in the middle.

You know it's true.

BWahahahah

Check out game 2 last yr - series on the line - with Morris and Cooper defending together!
QLD tore them both a new areshole

 

[Gaba]

Umm I think the biggest proble with the "Dragon Influence" is not the players as much as Sticky seems to have tried to get his entire game plan from Wayne whilst gobbling his knob.

Wayne is a brilliant coach at all levels but to use club level tactics was shown up during Bellamys reign and was again last night under Stewarts game plan.

The Maroons are aware of Waynes style quite obviously and club tactics simply do not work when you are playing in an Origin match against class players across the park.

Select alot of Dragons players because they are doing exceptionally well these past few seasons but give them something new to work with in terms of tactics

the only way you can judge whether the dragons tactics works or not is to

have the whole dragons team who are eligible for nsw


would have no doubts hornby being halfback nsw would have won


hornby is the only nsw halfback which hardly gets dominated

 

[DRAGONZ_RULE]

It took the Dragons a good seaonson and half to really click. NSW wont be able to emulate that with a handful of 1 week training camps. Mass changes are not the answer either.

Putting the first and second part of that together, the only option is to select the whole Dragons team (the eligible ones) for Game 2, then

1. Dugan
2. Morris
3. Gasiner
4. Cooper
5. Uate
6. Soward
7. Hornby
8. Weyman
9. Young
10. Hunt
11. Scott
12. Creagh
13. Prior

14. Merrin
15. Cuthbertson
16. Bird
17. Mannah

 

[chrisD]

Fine. Drop all 7 Dragons. Bring in players from the Roosters, Parra, Penrith, Cronulla, Wests - you know, the teams who are dominating the comp - and watch us magically turn it around.

You mean players like Gallen and Jennings? The best in Blue on the field? Those sorts of players you mean?

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

there domination of the comp made ricky pick most of their players. dammit Morris should never have been there, he straight out sucks. gaz should be dropped to avoid the embarrasement of Inglis ripping him a new one. young he's okay, but not really what we need. oh and Creagh should f**k off. soward, scott and merrin shud be kept.

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

btw imo if hayne was there instead of morris i think NSW would have won

 

[InThatNumber]

Dugan should have made the play at the ball. Morris was attempting to cover the chaser for him and Dugan had time to make a play or at least call Morris on to the ball... of which he did neither. That didn't cost the game however, Ennis poor choice of kick to Slater instead of getting his havles to kick to the corners and trap the QLD's in their 10 rather than starting a set from the 40 would have helped NSW stay in front.

 

[redvscotty]

I agree wholeheartedly..

Bring Gidley back in as the Captain of the Bench and watch us rocket to the top of the Origin scrapheap!

 

[besthalfbackPEARCE]

dragons supporters:

"wahhhhh fine dont pick our players"

That's what we've all been saying since the team was picked :lol:

 

[gregstar]

what a shock.

 

[Rodent]

Matt Scott 15 runs, 154m (49min), Civoniceva 16 runs, 143m (37min), Hannant 13 runs, 120m (33min), Lillyman 8 runs, 65m (31min).
Snowden 6 runs, 46m (36min), King 4 runs, 24m (35min), Mannah 7 runs, 46m (25min), Merrin 5 runs, 28m (25min).
Why would people bag the Blues when despite being dominated in the forwards they were still in front with 10 to go? The selected side defended very well against a mountain of possession and field position, repeat sets etc.
Snowden in the 5th minute of the match declined to chase on the Cam Smith grubber and decided to walk and watch. With a small effort Thurston wouldn't have scored.
Before judging a bloke on his minutes and metres, you have to consider how much ball we had when they were on. Merrin made 24 tackles in 25 minutes and Mannah 26 tackles in 25 minutes. Snowden made 23 tackles in 36 minutes. Jason King made 29 tackles in 35 minutes.
Snowden was a disgrace in my opinion. His non chase on the opening try was simply not an origin "effort". Brett Morris had a brain explosion or miscommunication with Dugan but at least they were there.

 

[Vic Mackey]

Not at all however dragons fans do have to cop some of this.

If we won you can net every single dragons fan would be in here starting threads like 'dragons get nsw home' and crap like that.

I thought Scott was great and soward was good. Gasnier got no ball at all but that's not his fault.

Merrin was terrible as was morris whilst young and creagh were just ineffective.

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

f**k ennis and f**k dugan. but f**k morris more, that was his play to be covered. how hard is it to catch the frickin ball infront of him ?
btw how on earth did he get infront of hayne ????
hayne manages to get into the game no matter what, geeee morris was completely invisible last night.

 

[besthalfbackPEARCE]

Not at all however dragons fans do have to cop some of this.

If we won you can net every single dragons fan would be in here starting threads like 'dragons get nsw home' and crap like that.

I thought Scott was great and soward was good. Gasnier got no ball at all but that's not his fault.

Merrin was terrible as was morris whilst young and creagh were just ineffective.

The funniest thing is they're still claiming that the entire dragons team should be picked, when their 7 best NSW players failed big time.

Where was the "Dragons defence"? Soward had 2 club players next to him in Gasnier and Scott yet could do nothing in attack.

As I said before the game, they have nothing without Bennett. Dragons Spoon 2012

 

[betcats]

Its not the Dragons style of play thats killed us last night its the sh*tness of some of their players that got selected. Morris, Gaz, Creagh, Merrin(did he even get a run?) did nothing all game. Morris cost us a try and Gaz couldnt get over the top of a one armed Willie Tonga. All of our front row was very poor aswell.

 

[DRAGONZ_RULE]

I thought Scott was great and soward was good. Gasnier got no ball at all but that's not his fault.

Merrin was terrible as was morris whilst young and creagh were just ineffective.

Don't think Merrin was "terrible" by any stretch .. for a 21 y/o in his debut match, he did fine .. no mistakes, took hitups when given the ball (and a couple of them were good, he dragged 3 defenders a few metres), plus made a tackle a minute during his time on the field.

The bigger issue is whether he should have been there from the start .. I wouldn't have picked him with all the other options available - but then I wouldn't have picked King either.

Given he was picked, I think he played better than King and Snowden did .. blokes with previous Origin experience, and much more seasoned campaigners.


Creagh was ineffective because he wasn't used correctly ... was playing too close to the ruck. The one time he was able to get out wide and run at Lockyer, he got scared that Creagh would get the ball, we ran a second man play and Jennings scored the try.

At the Dragons we do that time and time again ... unfortunately NSW were only able to do that once all night. The Dragons would go through that play again and again, score a couple of tries, would result in Lockyer not committing to Creagh, and then Hornby would hit Creagh instead of Boyd and he'd burst through the line.

 

[Danish]

nsw halfback position what will hold nsw back until they an find a better replacement halfback


what can chip,n chase and mix his game up


Pearce never does a chip n chase etc, he does the predicable kick every time

Unlike that Soward fella, who was just keeping QLD in 2 minds all night....


When was the last time Hornby put a chip through for the dragons BTW?

 

[Vic Mackey]

Also the dragons 2 main play makers are Boyd and fein who can't play for nsw