Robbie Deans

[aussies1st]

Is it time to move on?

Good on him for bringing on the youth but the tactical side of things have left a lot to be desired. From switching captains just before the WC, to converting a winger/fullback one tournament out from the WC. Then we get onto the field and the side totally lacks direction. Part of this is the players fault but Deans also played a part.

Seeing the work done by Ewen, I think it's time to promote him not to mention he managed to get the best out of Quade and Genia for the Reds. If they can't perform with him as coach of the Wallabies then clearly they were only meant to dazzle the Super 15 crowds.

 

[MARSHALL ZHUKOV]

Is it time to move on?

Good on him for bringing on the youth but the tactical side of things have left a lot to be desired. From switching captains just before the WC, to converting a winger/fullback one tournament out from the WC. Then we get onto the field and the side totally lacks direction. Part of this is the players fault but Deans also played a part.

Seeing the work done by Ewen, I think it's time to promote him not to mention he managed to get the best out of Quade and Genia for the Reds. If they can't perform with him as coach of the Wallabies then clearly they were only meant to dazzle the Super 15 crowds.

Certainly the attack was poor from the Wallabies when they played the better Countries. They need to release the ball quicker from scrums/mauls and have the backs standing deeper in attack with the fullback chiming in on backlines moves to create the overlap. They are much slower in all facets of the game than the blacks/south africa/france for an example and didnt look like they had a plan B when plan A wasn't working - eg- the Ireland Game/South Africa game and Blacks Game- They were incredibly lucky to beat the South Africans who in all honesty beat themselves.

Back to the drawing board i suggest to revamp the type of rugby australia plays by revamping the game and the way it should be played at the club and super 15 level which flows into the way the Wallabies play. Attacking Rugby it has to be wtih of course strong defense patterns. Need to review the coaching setup too on whether current super 15 and national coaches are the ones to take the game forward in the type of rugby play required.

 

[skeepe]

When Beale was ruled out, why did that muppet Faingaa come in and not Barnes? All through the cup the Wallabies had been an infinitely better side with Berrick Barnes out there, yet next game he was always back on the bench.

 

[shiznit]

I dont think you can blame Deans too much...

lets be honest... he's got absolute rubbish to work with... the fact you blokes got to the Semi's was enough reason to keep the guy on.

This Wallabies job has always been a stepping stone for him... once he gains the necessary international experience with the Wallabies... he will be better suited to taking the big job.

i reckon by the time he takes the reigns of the All Blacks... he will have the experience of taking a side to a World Cup... and a Lions series.

i dont think you can look too far into the Reds performances this season... we kiwis know more than most that Super form means diddly squat when it comes to international form.

the game is far less open... you need to be more clinical.

The Wallabies need to start developing there set piece... when the pressure came on last night at the scrum... the pack just fell to bits.

 

[Butters]

The wallabies played too conservative. The set play for the backs from any lineout or scrum was Cooper running on the angle to a straight running McCabe. It didn't work the first 5 times they tried it, yet they kept persisting with it.

It's definitely a coaching problem. Deans can't seem to be able to adjust his game plan when things aren't working.

 

[shiznit]

The wallabies played too conservative. The set play for the backs from any lineout or scrum was Cooper running on the angle to a straight running McCabe. It didn't work the first 5 times they tried it, yet they kept persisting with it.

It's definitely a coaching problem. Deans can't seem to be able to adjust his game plan when things aren't working.

funny that... one of the biggest things he was credited with when he was at the crusaders was there ability to change the game plan when things weren't working out. he developed the likes or Merhtens, Mauger and of course DC.

unfortunately... he just doesn't have the cattle available to him here.

 

[inside_pass]

I know the All blacks have a great side but fair dinkum the Wallabies are so useless when it comes to the big games.
The Boks last week should have smashed us but somehow lost the unlosable game.
The Wallabies against the All blacks were on the back foot throughout the entire game.....never looked like winning or scoring a try for that matter.
You could see the kiwis wanted it more and played like it.
I look at the wallabies and get the vibe that they know they have no chance of beating the kiwis.
You can see it in the way they play,theres no confidence in the team.
That display yesterday by our national side was sad because it showed the gulf between those two sides and even our own team knew they had no chance.

 

[Thomas]

funny that... one of the biggest things he was credited with when he was at the crusaders was there ability to change the game plan when things weren't working out. he developed the likes or Merhtens, Mauger and of course DC.

unfortunately... he just doesn't have the cattle available to him here.

I kind of agree with that.

Ewen Mackenzie has 'worse' cattle to work with yet his coaching was almost sublime this year. If the Reds were getting bossed around the park in the first half the team would come out and play a completely different game.

Last night you could see that the AB's were taking the high ball with ease but the Wallabies kept f**king kicking it up. It was annoying. Keep the ball and make the other team fight for possession.

 

[Parra]

He should be gone.

 

[shiznit]

we will happily have him back... he would get sent straight over to the Hurricanes or the Blues to fix those messes up.

He will get the big job at some stage... he just needs to bide his time... get that international experience up.

 

[Rod]

Speak for yourself, I don't want him coaching us.

Some very weird selection choices and a poor gamplan which for some reason continued to be attempted for the entire 80 minutes, even with 4 minutes left and 2 tries needed.

I was baffled when he was re-signed not long ago when there was stilll the World Cup to be played. As far as I'm concerned, for better or worse, he's the ARU's problem now.

 

[shiznit]

Speak for yourself, I don't want him coaching us.

Some very weird selection choices and a poor gamplan which for some reason continued to be attempted for the entire 80 minutes, even with 4 minutes left and 2 tries needed.

I was baffled when he was re-signed not long ago when there was stilll the World Cup to be played. As far as I'm concerned, for better or worse, he's the ARU's problem now.

lol... Robbie Deans would be a huuuuuge step up for the canes...

Hammer has destroyed that franchise...

 

[Rod]

I was talking about Deans coaching the All Blacks.

Hammett is a dickhead I agree.

 

[shiznit]

I was talking about Deans coaching the All Blacks.

Hammett is a dickhead I agree.

i think he's a good coach.... he's certainly good enough to coach the All Blacks.

the only problem was when he applied he was up against a pretty awesome coaching trio.

if as expected Henry retires... i would back Deans over Hansen... the only better option to Deans is Warren Gatland... and he's tied into Wales until 2015.

i wouldn't mind Jamie Joseph getting an assistant gig for the All Blacks... where he can keep the Highlanders role and work as the All Blacks forward coach.

 

[Hooch]

Put him in a rowboat and let him find his own way home.

He f**ked around with that side for four years, chopping and changing, then dumped his captain on the eve of the world cup. He is a fiddler.

In the end I suppose he gambled on Cooper and lost. How was that kick out on the full? What a clown. Funny how the one player he was loyal too is the flakiest of the lot.

 

[Big Sam]

There's a lot more problems with Deans than just what occured last night.

If he'd picked a reserve openside flanker we wouldn't even have played in NZ in the semis as we'd have beaten Ireland. And his selections have been abysmal. Keeping Barnes on the bench when we clearly needed another playmaker option if Quade screwed up again (which he did) was lunacy. And someone like Higginbotham would've been great to get over the advantage line but he wasn't even in the 22.

And don't get me started on the scrum. Given what happened last night it's clear the tight five haven't progressed in 4 years. Sure that's more Williams and Noriega's coaching responsibility but the buck must stop with Deans.

O'Neill's an idiot for re-signing him for another 2 years. Ewen Mackenzie should be the next Wallaby coach. He's proven time and time again that he can dramatically improve any underperforming team (at NSW and QLD) and has clearly demonstrated that he can get the best out of Quade. And above all he's actually an AUSTRALIAN.

 

[byrne_rovelli_fan82]

What does being an Australian have to do with it? Coaches are picked on their credentials, and Robbie at the time had one of the best coaching records of anyone especially at NZ domestic level, having been in charge of the Crusaders.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Of Course Robbie should go,under him we have lost games to the likes of Scotland and Samoa,that is reason enough to go

 

[wittyfan]

Alan Jones to coach and Rob Simmons to captain.

Easy. Fixed!

 

[hellteam]

Robbie should be gone.

Although, I think some people (in the media too) are a bit confused.

They kept harping on Deans for not picking an 'attacking' enough side - and at the same time saying we should pick Barnes at inside centre.

Anyone that has watched a game or two of rugby knows that every time Barnes gets the ball his absolute first instinct is to kick. Most times he does. Which is exactly what we didn't need when we seemed to have a backline hell bent on doing the same thing.

Deans is a shit coach, but I certainly don't blame him for leaving Barnes out of the team.