Sharks fume as MP deserts project

[Perth Red]

If I was a resident I'd object, it looks like a nice green belt area, if I was a Sharks fan I'd be praying to god, allah, buddha and anyone who else who might be out there to make it happen!

 

[carcharias]

It is not a green belt area at all.
A bloody big Toyota factory isnext to it.
Next to that is about 4 square Kim's of industrial area
that backs onto the mangroves.
Mangroves which are neglected and full of rubbish.

Google earth it .

 

[rednblack]

His wife went.

Apparently she know everything.

You're a bigot and a sexist.

Who are you to say that this guy's wife is not a suitable representative for the family's interests? Who are you to say that he should've left the kids at home alone so he could go with her to the meeting. As a family they have made an effort to make themselves more informed of the issues that affect them, and have based their conclusions on the outcome of that meeting (which his wife attended).

We don't need the likes of you in here with sexist comments like the above. I hope you build your development, the sharks still fail, and then you're stuck with this unwanted eyesore forever.

You've just lost any and all support I had for you lot, and the rest of the sharks fans in here should be embarrassed by you and your comments.

 

[rednblack]

If I was a resident I'd object, it looks like a nice green belt area, if I was a Sharks fan I'd be praying to god, allah, buddha and anyone who else who might be out there to make it happen!

Allah and Buddha aren't allowed into the shire PR...

 

[DJShaksta]

You're a bigot and a sexist.

Who are you to say that this guy's wife is not a suitable representative for the family's interests? Who are you to say that he should've left the kids at home alone so he could go with her to the meeting. As a family they have made an effort to make themselves more informed of the issues that affect them, and have based their conclusions on the outcome of that meeting (which his wife attended).

We don't need the likes of you in here with sexist comments like the above. I hope you build your development, the sharks still fail, and then you're stuck with this unwanted eyesore forever.

You've just lost any and all support I had for you lot, and the rest of the sharks fans in here should be embarrassed by you and your comments.

Bahahahaha biggest load of tripe in this thread.
Carch's comment was not sexist.
R2Coupe has been in here deathriding the development and when asked about his concerns or if he went to the numerous information night his reply was that his wife went.
Yet he is still on here sprouting false information. When asked about it he responds with "my wife went, she knows".

Get his wife in here to post in the thread as she obviously has more of a grasp on the details of the development than he has.

Although i don't think she would be any better than him if she thinks 16 stories down to 6 is a "reasonable compromise"....................

 

[DJShaksta]

Allah and Buddha aren't allowed into the shire PR...

Buddha is welcome anytime, Allah can get fugged

 

[Ausguy]

You're a bigot and a sexist.

Who are you to say that this guy's wife is not a suitable representative for the family's interests? Who are you to say that he should've left the kids at home alone so he could go with her to the meeting. As a family they have made an effort to make themselves more informed of the issues that affect them, and have based their conclusions on the outcome of that meeting (which his wife attended).

We don't need the likes of you in here with sexist comments like the above. I hope you build your development, the sharks still fail, and then you're stuck with this unwanted eyesore forever.

You've just lost any and all support I had for you lot, and the rest of the sharks fans in here should be embarrassed by you and your comments.

Sarcasm is lost on you isnt it.

 

[carcharias]

Hahahahaha

 

[taipan]

If you are attempting to compare a retirement centre to 8 13 to 16 storey towers located in completely difference sites, then it is meaningless.

Consideration of how well environmental issues have been addressed are the responsibility of respective Govt Dept. I can't see how you can come to any conclusion on this issue based on the developer's presentation. I'm not surprised you have though.

The public statement from what I read did not mean no development, it meant a more responsible and scaled back development. Something of around 6 stories which is a responsible approach.

No I am not trying to compare a retirement centre site with anything.
what i amtrying to get through is:
1) There are factories and a retirement village plonked at exactly the same vicinity as the proposed Shark's development and about the same distance from the mangroves.Not one of these other developments already in place has gone to the trouble and effort in ensuring an improvement in the mangrove environment.Not one will /has provided the recreational open air facilites that the Shark's development will do.

2)Are you suggesting after living in the shire for decades and knowing a little bit about developments and environmental impacts ,and studying the detail provide in the shark's development,that I am incapable of making an informed opinion?.Questioned the people involved individually,and you did not even attend,except via 3rd party(your wife).And you have the audacity to bag my considered opinion.I lived in the shire when we had sandhills.And could eat oysters off the rocks at gunnamatta.Had the council secure part of my grandfathers land for green belt(for a token amount),and they put up a couple of halls and left the rest to lay idle.I suggest I am probably more environmentally aware than you will ever be.


3) LOL A responsible development like say Northies thrusting up to the sky,with no environmental consideration,nor traffic consideration.Look at them popping up at Miranda,it is already chokesville.There are plenty of high rise in the Shire well over 6 stories.6 stories is unviable.
And pray tell what about the density of villas and townhouses in the Shire and Caringbah and Woolooware and Cronulla.I live in a townhouse.There is more chance of a 2.5 car situation in these ,than high rise units,near a shopping centre,with public transport provided.
And why have you not complained about the numbers of sand trucks flying past CC drive day and night.

4) the high rise is no where near other housing,unlike the rest of the Shire's highrise.Ever thought with an ageing population,these people may want to live in these units close to their loved ones in the Shire.Ever thought people may want jobs,in an ever uncertain local and world economic climate.

Anycase should the proposal get knocked on the head,look forward to factories and warehouses with more trucks and cars,because St George is no charity organisation.
Like most politicians Speakman is a creature of convenience,for the moment and not the future.

 

[Eion]

Allah and Buddha aren't allowed into the shire PR...

Mate....seriously. You get on your high horse about someone being a bigot and a sexist and in the next breath label the whole shire racist.

Ask some of your questions back at yourself: Who are you to suggest a whole shire is racist? I really think it's you who should do us all a favour and spare as the embarrasment we feel for you when reading your posts.

 

[rednblack]

Mate....seriously. You get on your high horse about someone being a bigot and a sexist and in the next breath label the whole shire racist.

Ask some of your questions back at yourself: Who are you to suggest a whole shire is racist? I really think it's you who should do us all a favour and spare as the embarrasment we feel for you when reading your posts.

To quote ausguy - "sarcasm is lost on you, isn't it?".
And to quote djshaksta - "allah can get fugged".

 

[Eion]

To quote ausguy - "sarcasm is lost on you, isn't it?".
And to quote djshaksta - "allah can get fugged".

Wow, righteous when it suits. Still taking each way bets after the cup.

Your name's not Rebecca by any chance?

 

[taipan]

From an outsiders perspective, I do not live in the Shire or follow the Sharks clearly, it would seem to me that these local residents have some legitimate concerns that deserve investigation. Perhaps the developers have covered all the bases are some of you Sharks fans are suggesting. It seems those that are pro-development are failing to see these residents concerns objectively because of their passion for the Sharks. That is not a criticism, if the Dragons were in the same boat I would feel exactly the same way.

Every resident is entitiled to express an opinion,but some of the opinions expressed by the likes of Capsis are hollow.One minute no flooding problem as part of the council who gave approval for the previous development application,now there is a problem.
When the club had the info nights on,everyone could ask individually questions to the specialists on deck,such as transport,environment,building practices,architect,you name it.
I did that,and one of the objectors on this board queried my experience and knowledge.I asked the experts,can't do any more than that.
Democracy is where everyone is entitiled to a viewpoint,and that is good.It is where info is put out by objectors that is not quite near the mark,that is the worry.Precedence must also be taken into account.

 

[DJShaksta]

To quote ausguy - "sarcasm is lost on you, isn't it?".
And to quote djshaksta - "allah can get fugged".

I stand by what I said. It is not racist.

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

If I was a resident I'd object, it looks like a nice green belt area,

its a carpark on one side.

the footy fields may as well be. not exactly pristine. part of the consortium plan is to find an alternative space for the junior rugby league to play.

but all of that can be found on http://www.infoonsharks.com.au/

or alternatively

www.deytookerjeeeerbs.org/nimby

as for the mangroves. again, the proposal has been created with the mangoves as a high priority and all efforts have been made to maintain that environment.
i believe there will be an upgrade/maintenance to the current walkway as part of it.

 

[Hutty1986]

You're a bigot and a sexist.

Who are you to say that this guy's wife is not a suitable representative for the family's interests? Who are you to say that he should've left the kids at home alone so he could go with her to the meeting. As a family they have made an effort to make themselves more informed of the issues that affect them, and have based their conclusions on the outcome of that meeting (which his wife attended).

We don't need the likes of you in here with sexist comments like the above. I hope you build your development, the sharks still fail, and then you're stuck with this unwanted eyesore forever.

You've just lost any and all support I had for you lot, and the rest of the sharks fans in here should be embarrassed by you and your comments.

:lol: Look out, it's:

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

We don't need the likes of you in here with sexist comments like the above. I hope you build your development, the sharks still fail, and then you're stuck with this unwanted eyesore forever.

You've just lost any and all support I had for you lot

something tells me you were never supportive of it.

 

[carcharias]

You're a bigot and a sexist.

Who are you to say that this guy's wife is not a suitable representative for the family's interests? Who are you to say that he should've left the kids at home alone so he could go with her to the meeting. As a family they have made an effort to make themselves more informed of the issues that affect them, and have based their conclusions on the outcome of that meeting (which his wife attended).

We don't need the likes of you in here with sexist comments like the above. I hope you build your development, the sharks still fail, and then you're stuck with this unwanted eyesore forever.

You've just lost any and all support I had for you lot, and the rest of the sharks fans in here should be embarrassed by you and your comments.

You seem to be serious ...and obviously missed the joke totally.
so now I will be serious.
just a few tips rednblack.

you have only been in here for a short while going by your post count.

Before you come in all gung ho and start making outrageous comments it would be smart to get a grasp on the entire conversation.

I went to the info nights.
I have been a resident for most of my life ..still am ...home owner, rate payer and sharks supporter.
I have a family and kids that go to school here, and I dare say I do more than most men I know in terms of family commitments....and I still still went to the info nights.
My wife will work 6 nights a week for the next 3 weeks...plus her 9 to 5 day job.

It is such an important time in the shire not only for the Sharks that I made the time.
I could not buy a home in Cronulla..there is virtually nothing unless you are extremely wealthy.
So I had to move further out in the shire...not that I wanted to.

You live nowhere near here and have no concept of what is where .
You need to do some research in future.

R2Coupe didn't go to the info night
By his own admission his wife went...his info is second hand...and at a guess from someone with a mind already made up.
thats cool though .

What shits me is people who haven't a clue ( like you ) trying to tell us we are wrong.

what also shits me is old fuggers who seem to think they own the shire.
They came in at a time when life was different..housing was cheaper and more plentiful.
They bang on about the enviroment....but the facts are they were the generatrion who let that entire stretch along Taren Point road to be developed into an industrial area.
They also let an oil refinery be built in Kurnell.
They allowed sand mining...the dunes are gone.
They allowed a nuclear reactor and to be built at Lucas Heights.

But now ....only now they are crying.
The development is not a f**king stinking plant pumping shit into the sky .
It is housing for the shires young people.
Maybe they won't be able to buy but thay can rent there.
It is extremely hard to find rental accom in the shire.
It is shopping..also a bitch of an exercise currently .
It is employment for well over 1000 people!!

When the development is finished are these old whingers going to be still even here?

 

[newman]

What shits me is people who haven't a clue ( like you ) trying to tell us we are wrong.

what also shits me is old fuggers who seem to think they own the shire.
They came in at a time when life was different..housing was cheaper and more plentiful.
They bang on about the enviroment....but the facts are they were the generatrion who let that entire stretch along Taren Point road to be developed into an industrial area.
They also let an oil refinery be built in Kurnell.
They allowed sand mining...the dunes are gone.
They allowed a nuclear reactor and to be built at Lucas Heights.

But now ....only now they are crying.
The development is not a f**king stinking plant pumping shit into the sky .
It is housing for the shires young people.
Maybe they won't be able to buy but thay can rent there.
It is extremely hard to find rental accom in the shire.
It is shopping..also a bitch of an exercise currently .
It is employment for well over 1000 people!!

Bingo, bingo, bingo.

I just wrote a letter to the Leader outlining this in more polite terms. It really, really shits me.

I live in Woolooware. Rent a townhouse with 2 other blokes. The average age in our strata block is about 80. Im not kidding. In the street it would be 60+. NOBODY goes to work. We pay $600 a week and the townie is a very modest, very 1980s original pale brick number. It needs new paint. It needs a new kitchen and bathrooms. It needs new carpet, desperately. In places, the carpet has worn through to the weave. The agent agrees it needs replacing, but the owner wont do it. They know they have us over a barrell because is we move out, there is nowhere else to rent in the immediate area, and if we go there will be some other geriatric sucker ready to swoop.

 

[carcharias]

not to mention the retired couples sitting on 600 -700 sq mtr blocks of land ...for 2 people!!!
kids have moved off.
Don't drive during peak hour ....do their grocery shopping at about 10am on a Tuesday morning while most of the population is at work trying to pay off a mortage that would buy a small resort in Samoa.

...and they are complaining about the extra traffic???

how would they know? ...Karl and Koshie is their peak hour.