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That Penalty

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To quote the late and great referee Col Pearce:

"No one has ever gone to a game to watch a man blow a whistle."

In 1965, Pearce outlined his refereeing philosophy: the importance to remain unnoticed on the field and help the players to turn on a good show for spectators.

"By this, I don't mean the referee should make himself the centre of attraction," Pearce said.

"In fact, the reverse is true. Of all the men on the field the referee should be the most unobtrusive. The less the spectators notice the referee, the better he is."

Pearce stressed that apart from family, no one has ever gone to a game to watch a man blow a whistle.

I agree 100%. Problem is many refs don't have a good feel for the game and in trying to be unobtrusive they do things like ignore clear penalties, slacken off on the 10m and slowing down the rucks, and these things do end up clearly affecting the game.
 

Saint69

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just out of curiosity.. when watching the footage again tonight i asked a big question to myself..

why didn't soward catch the ball after it came off the goalpost??

In Sowies defence with the angle the ball dropped a few meters away from him he would have had to dive to even touch it,the camera angle makes it look closer than he was to the ball IMO.
 

possm

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Bullshit...here is the rule

From the notes of section 11 The Tackle and Play-The-Ball

Moving tackled player
2. (a) Where opponents do not make a tackle effective in the quickest possible manner but attempt to push, pull or
carry the player in possession, it is permissible for colleagues of the tackled player to lend their weight in order to
avoid losing ground. Immediately this happens the referee should call “Held”
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where does it state that it doesn't apply "to goal area and legit purpose to force a linedrop" ?:crazy:

You are absolutely right and Hornby told the Ref as well. Soward should not have said a word and if he needed to say something, say it to Hornby.
 

Saint69

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You are absolutely right and Hornby told the Ref as well. Soward should not have said a word and if he needed to say something, say it to Hornby.

In the heat of the moment with the closeness of the game and the intensity involved you won't find too many players pausing to have a word to their captain to relay to the Ref,I dare say it doesn't happen in this instance because of the time left,Sowie was not the only one going off he just managed to be the first one to get in the Refs face,even Youngy said today on the footy show even though he didn't advocate it he would have done it if Sowie hadn't.
 

Willow

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You are absolutely right and Hornby told the Ref as well. Soward should not have said a word and if he needed to say something, say it to Hornby.
Easy to say in hindsight. But non-captains blurt out stuff towards the ref in every game.

In the majority of cases, the referee simply waves him away. In some cases the captain is called over and told to keep his player in check.

There's plenty of ways to deal with it correctly. A good ref doesn't turn it into a game killer.

If Cecchin is sending a message that players aren't to use swear words when appealing a decision, then let's see him apply it every week. It'll be a wonderful sideshow should he decide to go 'hollywood' and make it his thing.

Anyway we won... we were the best team on the park. In case I haven't already said it: good teams beat bad refs.
 

Breathingfire

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Easy to say in hindsight. But non-captains blurt out stuff towards the ref in every game.

In the majority of cases, the referee simply waves him away. In some cases the captain is called over and told to keep his player in check.

There's plenty of ways to deal with it correctly. A good ref doesn't turn it into a game killer.

If Cecchin is sending a message that players aren't to use swear words when appealing a decision, then let's see him apply it every week. It'll be a wonderful sideshow should he decide to go 'hollywood' and make it his thing.

Anyway we won... we were the best team on the park. In case I haven't already said it: good teams beat bad refs.

Yeah you are spot on Willow. At the end of the day we won the match! Honestly, I watched the highlights and I still cannot believe what happened. The try off the kickoff was nothing short of remarkable.
 

Blood Shot Eyes

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Yeah you are spot on Willow. At the end of the day we won the match! Honestly, I watched the highlights and I still cannot believe what happened. The try off the kickoff was nothing short of remarkable.
Yeah was great...Know how the Roosters must have felt....takes my mind back to when we got done in the dying seconds by the Raiders, I think it was Dugan that scored from the kick off when the ball was dropped by us.
 

Yuly

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Invent your own sport
In RL tacklers have been forcing a linedrop since 1908

Perry, gang tackling and wrestling are feature of modern rugby league. The old style was mainly around the legs with an occasional head high to keep the opposition honest. It was extremely rare to see more than two players in a tackle and pushing a player into touch by a group of players was almost unseen.
Bob Fulton has a lot to answer for as he was the first coach who queried the time limit on tacklers. Players had to roll away after a tackle, then Fulton introduced the tactic of holding down. Brian Smith improved on this by getting his players to roll the tackled player on their back, extending the length of the tackle time and ergo giving the defence more time to set.
 

God-King Dean

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Easy to say in hindsight. But non-captains blurt out stuff towards the ref in every game.

In the majority of cases, the referee simply waves him away. In some cases the captain is called over and told to keep his player in check.

There's plenty of ways to deal with it correctly. A good ref doesn't turn it into a game killer.

If Cecchin is sending a message that players aren't to use swear words when appealing a decision, then let's see him apply it every week. It'll be a wonderful sideshow should he decide to go 'hollywood' and make it his thing.

Anyway we won... we were the best team on the park. In case I haven't already said it: good teams beat bad refs.

Remember Stephan Clarke?

He went on a anti-swearing rampage in the late 90's/early '00s. Got a bit out of control & got told to pull his head in.

My favourite was when he gave David Kidwell for this piece of dialogue.

Clarke: The decision is a penalty.
Kidwell: What for?
Clarke: That's 10.

A very dramatic little man. " Bucket of spit. "
 

Perry Como

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Bullshit...here is the rule

From the notes of section 11 The Tackle and Play-The-Ball

Moving tackled player
2. (a) Where opponents do not make a tackle effective in the quickest possible manner but attempt to push, pull or
carry the player in possession, it is permissible for colleagues of the tackled player to lend their weight in order to
avoid losing ground. Immediately this happens the referee should call “Held”

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where does it state that it doesn't apply "to goal area and legit purpose to force a linedrop" ?:crazy:

If that rule was applicable no team can force a linedrop .
You want that ?
 

Willow

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Remember Stephan Clarke?

He went on a anti-swearing rampage in the late 90's/early '00s. Got a bit out of control & got told to pull his head in.

My favourite was when he gave David Kidwell for this piece of dialogue.

Clarke: The decision is a penalty.
Kidwell: What for?
Clarke: That's 10.

A very dramatic little man. " Bucket of spit. "
I saw him up close in 2004 at a trial match at the old Carrara Stadium. He was arguing with someone on our bench, the veins on his neck were up and for a second it looked like a blood vessel was about to burst. A very tense fellow I thought.

I took a happy snap at the time... didn't really do justice to the moment but you get the gist.

2004_00d_18clark.jpg
 

64 Dragon

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yeah was great...know how the roosters must have felt....takes my mind back to when we got done in the dying seconds by the raiders, i think it was dugan that scored from the kick off when the ball was dropped by us.

dugan knocked the ball on in the in-goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

64 Dragon

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Perry, gang tackling and wrestling are feature of modern rugby league. The old style was mainly around the legs with an occasional head high to keep the opposition honest. It was extremely rare to see more than two players in a tackle and pushing a player into touch by a group of players was almost unseen.
Bob Fulton has a lot to answer for as he was the first coach who queried the time limit on tacklers. Players had to roll away after a tackle, then Fulton introduced the tactic of holding down. Brian Smith improved on this by getting his players to roll the tackled player on their back, extending the length of the tackle time and ergo giving the defence more time to set.

Bellamy perfected all that stuff and introduced more crap to the detriment of the game.
 

Perry Como

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Perry, you fail again.

Are you deliberately playing dumb, or does it come naturally?

Good fluff piece you did on col pierce where he declared himself to never having been a show pony .

Suppose when he wore his 4 inch collar up like that it was to stop sunburn?

Was he your first one?
 

Willow

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From the book, Last Train to Como...

Perry Como was not devoid of a temper, and it could be seen at times as a result of the frustrations of daily life.

His music director from 1948 - 1963, Mitchell Ayres, said, "Perry has a temper... he loses his temper at the normal things... When we're driving, for instance, and somebody cuts him off, he really lets the offender have it."

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Perry Como in happier times, teaching youngsters how to smoke.
 
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