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Father Ted

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Running for their lives from an uncertain future

Brad Walter and Brett Keeble

June 20, 2012
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On the 'not wanted' list ... Parramatta's Justin Poore. Photo: Getty Images

MORE than 50 NRL stars will be playing for their futures in coming weeks as clubs finalise their rosters for next season, including some players under contract for next year and beyond.
As clubs juggle their salary caps to accommodate new recruits, the likes of Wests Tigers utility Tom Humble, South Sydney back Fetuli Talanoa, Parramatta props Justin Poore and Shane Shackleton, Canterbury second-rower David Stagg and Newcastle forward Richie Fa'aoso are set to move on.
The Bulldogs have the most players off contract, with 11 still unsigned, while Newcastle and Penrith also have a large number of players yet to resolve their futures.
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The Wests Tigers' Tim Moltzen. Photo: Wolter Peeters

All three clubs have new coaches this season, and Des Hasler, Wayne Bennett and Ivan Cleary are still shaping their teams.
After five consecutive losses, Knights chairman Paul Harragon said yesterday all players were ''on notice'' and rival club officials have told the Herald that some Newcastle players were being shopped around - including backs Wes Naiqama and Junior Sa'u, who are both contracted for next season.
Canberra chief executive Don Furner said the Raiders had been offered the services of up to 20 players, including some available to join the club before the June 30 deadline for mid-season transfers.
''We've been offered probably 15 to 20 players … [including] quite a few from Newcastle,'' Furner told ABC Radio. ''Some are talking about trying to move before June 30 this year.
''We have got to sit down with the coaching staff and go through a few of those names. There will be more names that get thrown up too, so we are not in a hurry.''
Furner said the Raiders may be interested in Humble, who is off contract at the Tigers this season, along with fellow utility Tim Moltzen and wingers Lote Tuqiri and Matt Utai.
Shackleton, who is out of favour at the Eels, has been linked with a move to Penrith, who have already signed Melbourne forward Sika Manu, Cowboys hooker James Segeyaro, Warriors back-rower Lewis Brown and Manly centre Dean Whare.
The Knights are still trying to bolster their under-performing squad this year and have been linked to Poore, who is off contract this year but is being shopped around in the hope of a pre-June 30 release.
However, any chance of the Knights recruiting another player this season would hinge on them offloading the likes Fa'aoso or Evarn Tuimavave, or possibly both, due to the salary-cap implications.
The Herald understands Tuimavave was set to take up an immediate offer to play in England but the move fell through.
Harragon, who led the Knights to the 1997 premiership, said yesterday that Bennett had warned all of the players that their performances were under review.
''I think you'll find it with a lot of coaches. Even Ivan Cleary's doing the same thing [at Penrith],'' Harragon told Newcastle radio station KO-FM yesterday.
''You get to the point where you work with blokes, you do this, you do that, and the final result is: 'Hey guys, everyone's on notice. If you're not coming my way … '. He [Cleary] has had to drop all his senior players.
''Wayne's gone in the same direction, just saying: 'You guys are all on notice, this is the way we've got to go, come online and let's do it.'''
Naiqama is in the first year of a new three-year contract, and Sa'u is contracted until the end of next year but it is believed the Knights would consider releasing the pair, who have spent most of the season in NSW Cup, if another club was interested.
Forwards Chris Houston and Willie Mason remain unsigned beyond this year but have been two of the team's most consistent performers and the Knights hope to retain them.




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Father Ted

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Hot Dogs for sale


June 20, 2012
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Among the players whose futures are yet to be determined ... Steve Turner and Bryson Goodwin. Photo: Getty Images, Quentin Jones

THE conspiracy theorists, many of whom may be just plain jealous of Canterbury's resurgence under new coach Des Hasler, have been wondering aloud: How can the Bulldogs keep going after star players for next season and still stay under the salary cap?
Well, here is the answer: Almost half of the current first-grade squad are off contract at the end of this season, which means the club has some tough decisions to make when it comes to player retention over the next month.
Canterbury have signed NSW and Australian representative forward Tony Williams from Manly for next year, after missing out on his Sea Eagles teammate, Kiwi international five-eighth Kieran Foran. They have also signed Kiwi internationals Krisnan Inu and Sam Perrett, both outside backs.
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Inu cost the club only $50,000 for the bulk of this season when he recently switched clubs from the Warriors, who were prepared to pay most of what he was owed under their contract with him for this year as part of the deal to remove him from their books for next year.
But Inu's earnings will rise substantially at the Bulldogs in 2013.
The nature of the beast, when it comes to player retention and recruitment under the salary cap, is that even some of the players who have contributed to Canterbury's success so far this season - they are in second place on the competition ladder - are in danger of not being offered new contracts.
''Yeah, well, it's hard,'' Bulldogs chief executive Todd Greenberg said yesterday. ''Because some of those guys are playing good footy. They'll get good offers from other clubs, and we need to weigh that up when it comes to who we retain, and who we recruit. It's like that every year - you've got to find a balance in your salary cap. It's not an exact science.''
Recently, there were 12 players among Canterbury's squad of 25 who were not contracted beyond this season, but that has since been cut to 11 with the re-signing of star prop Sam Kasiano, who would have earned a substantial pay rise based on his tremendous form.
That leaves Dene Halatau, Steve Turner, Bryson Goodwin, David Stagg, Jonathan Wright, Kris Keating, Luke MacDougall, Martin Taupau, Joel Romelo, Mitch Brown and Jake Foster as the players whose futures are yet to be determined, although the word is Taupau is among those who will be re-signed.
Five of those players - MacDougall, Wright, Keating, Halatau and Stagg - were yesterday named in the 17-man squad for Sunday's huge game against competition leaders Melbourne in Mackay, and as such would appear well placed to get new contracts with the Bulldogs.
But nothing is sure until deals are done, and it remains to be seen how many - and who - of the 11 players remain at the Bulldogs next season.
Despite the uncertainty, which can sometimes put a team off balance, the Bulldogs are powering along, which is testimony to Hasler's ability to create a great culture within a club and drive players - as individuals and as part of a team - to play consistently good football and keep improving.
Canterbury missed the finals last year, but that clearly won't be happening this year. Asked when decisions about retention or otherwise would be made, Greenberg replied: ''We haven't made them yet. We're in the middle of those discussions as we speak. We've got a lot of people coming off contract, so it's a matter of finding that balance between retaining your own and recruiting externally. We didn't buy very many last year, we only brought [English prop] James Graham to the club.''
It appears likely Perrett will be released early by the Roosters, enabling him to join the Bulldogs next week. ''We made an offer to Sam … so the issue is more in their court than ours,'' Greenberg said. ''We'll just wait for the outcome.''




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Hoekstra

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Its kind of funny how Moltzen and Wes Naiqama knocked us back last year and are now unwanted. I think Moltzen has a better chance of attaining a discount one year deal somewhere.
 

big pat

Coach
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would moltzen have been more use to us this year at halfback than hornby?


didn't they go after moltzen as a fullback, after seeing a couple of games he has played half, don't think ben would have had no worries.
 
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Looks like the Raiders are interested in LOLtzen.
They should do a verbal deal with him and change their mind at the last minute.
 

Mr Red

First Grade
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that's the problem - if they're any good, they'rs signed up early......

correct..
piss poor recruitment and scouting has meant we have all but missed the boat for any quality recruits next season..
teams like the dogs, rabbits and panthers are 10 steps ahead of us when it comes to scouting out talent.
 
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