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Kearney is not the problem

Wise Old Eel

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Kearney has tried really has, I think just looking at his press conferences he has just about given in and does not know what else to try.

The problem is in the squad and when you look at the 1-17 and you sit back no matter how much of hardcore eels fan you are and you say wow that is a really bad team no real strength area anywhere.

Guys like Hindy,Matiua,Burt,Smith,Poore,MoiMoi,Morgan,Keating,Roberts are all not NRL standard anymore at the level where you will be top 8 contenders and does not help when the NSW cup team is not even worth looking at.


Yes Kearney took a stab and recruited guys like Sandow and Tonga who both come with big reps and lets face it if you where in the same situation like he was last year you would have have tried to sign these 2 players as well if you had the chance.

Yes they have not worked out but at the start of the year I came in here and read about how all you guys are excited about Sandow and Tonga.


I think just give kearney a season or 2 more he needs to clear out so much dead wood that is stuck at eels at the moment it will take time as there is so much dead wood on the squad.

You have good youngsters coming through in the backs like sio and blair and decent 2nd rowers in paulo and ryan as well.

Also don't forget you have Hayne one of the best players in the game and you can always build a team around him for the next 3-4 years you guys will be top of the tree again if you guys can recruit some top class 2nd rowers.

God no. Enough is enough.

What is it with you people & this bloke? I just don't get it. He has had his shot. He failed. His not up to the job. The fans know it, the board deny they know it (but they do) & I suspect the players know it. I doubt very much Kearney would be successful with many of the rosters doing the rounds. There is one thing I am confident of and that is we would not be going backwards, with the same roster, under a better coach.

I am sick of the excuses. It does NOT take this long to start seeing some progress - especially considering progress would easily be measured when compared to 2011.

WOE
 

Gronk

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Some Broncos supporter thinks we should give SK 2 more years ?

#yeahrightnothanks
 

Poupou Escobar

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yeah we already have identified the one - luke burt - that evil mofo! :evil:

Burt's not the scapegoat. He just shouldn't be in first grade.

To be honest I'm pissed at whoever is keeping Burt in first grade. It's obviously just a PR exercise, and if we were a chance of making the finals he wouldn't be there.

I reckon the board is forcing Kearney to let Burt finish his career in the top grade, which means they're all to blame. It's certainly not Luke Burt's fault.
 

Agent Mulder

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SK is f**ken rubbish, Deadset ok there were excuses last year but this year really shows he has no f**ken idea, Do you really think players like Folau and Lewis would come to this club? If i was Lewis i would go to the Sharks as well, The Sharks have gone thru some shit but they look great these days, We should of signed Carney as well, Didn't we have like 1millions under the cap last year or something?
 

Sphagnum

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If we did a 3-2-1 for coaching performances every week in the NRL, Kearney would still be on zero.

Furner would have got his first points last week against Melbourne.

Yeah, he isn't the problem.
 

Gronk

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If we did a 3-2-1 for coaching performances every week in the NRL, Kearney would still be on zero.

Furner would have got his first points last week against Melbourne.

Yeah, he isn't the problem.

Not going to win Dally M coach of year ? WTF ?
 

Sphagnum

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Not going to win Dally M coach of year ? WTF ?

Another wooden spoon for his trophy cabinet. We'd get more out of him as a player than a coach. Once he gives that a go I really will believe he has 'tried everything'
 

Tommy Coco

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Pou, you should do the bullet points of agenda's in your sig like SDM use to. This way you won't be blamed for moving the goal posts.

- SK should see out the contract and be re-signed we he...
- Hindy should be replaced by...
- Jermey Smith is ... years of age

etc
 

barney gumble

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It was a pretty well written post, which is probably the only thing that stopped the lunatics here from pretty much going beserk. If you Broncos have faith in Kearney, let's swap coaches then.
 

Swiftstylez

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Dear Pou,

As one of Hagan's greatest advocates on LU and in life, I will give you a piece of advice for treasure until you take it to the grave. When Stephen Kearney (who is unproven unlike Hagan was, an accomplished premiership-winning coach and a record breaking origin assistant to a 7-repeat series team) gets fired all the times you have defended him will mean nothing to anyone here and will not get you laid by Kearney despite your best efforts.

Regards,

Me.

P.S. Hagan did A LOT better in his two years than Kearney ever did, he took us to a finals battle against the cheats and we BARELY lost. If he goes and Anderson went, Kearney should too. 9 wins out of 40 rounds of Rugby League is hardly anything to harp on about.

I have a thread from 2008:

"How many coaches are we going to go through before you guys give it up?"

If Hagan or Anderson was still here we would have done better than we have so far. This is the only upside of keeping Kearney, the long-shot that he needs to get the players he wants in first to be able to show his stuff. That's next year at the latest and if the results still aren't coming we are back at "rebuilding" and the viscous cycle continues, it is a gamble keeping Kearney who is unproven in any single way... being an assistant at Melbourne to a team that has Cameron Smith is as laughable as people who say Hagan only won because of Joey or is "only" an assistant to a 7-time origin winning side (who didn't rort the salary cap)

 
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Poupou Escobar

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I rated Hagan too, at least as a motivator. I'm well aware he won a premiership in his rookie season, and he did it a full year before Ricky Stuart managed it.

Great motivators the pair of them.

But what we need at the moment is a club builder. That's not Daniel Anderson or Ricky Stuart, and it sure as shit isn't Michael Hagan. I'd have Brian Smith back before any of these guys, and he's proven over a hundred years what a loser he is.

Still got a job but.
 

Swiftstylez

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I rated Hagan too, at least as a motivator. I'm well aware he won a premiership in his rookie season, and he did it a full year before Ricky Stuart managed it.

Great motivators the pair of them.

But what we need at the moment is a club builder. That's not Daniel Anderson or Ricky Stuart, and it sure as shit isn't Michael Hagan. I'd have Brian Smith back before any of these guys, and he's proven over a hundred years what a loser he is.

Still got a job but.


You make a good point... a builder. I don't disagree with Kearney's ability to pull good players, I rate Sandow and love him to bits and agree that the forward pack this year has ruined his ability to take the reigns and improvise. I was happy with the talent that he brought to us this year but he is unable to get them to perform... he seems to have the wheels in motion for a more solid forward pack next year so at least he is addressing the key concerns.

I just worry that when he has the team he wants the results aren't going to be as great as people will expect them to be as even though our team isn't full of world beaters at the moment, we should still be playing better than we are with some of the individual talent that we have... and that is the problem. Tonga has been a f**king disgrace for an origin player and the only person we can put that down to is Kearney. Blair is a superstar in the making but he is having up and down performances and it seems to be something that sweeps over the entire team, this is even more the case with Sio who doesn't impress me a lot of the time but comes up with some great finishing occasionally. This inconsistency and under performing is what is giving me the impression that the coach is the problem.
 
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Swiftstylez

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This inconsistency and under performing also translates to our team performances, think nearly every single game this year where we have a period where we are absolutely on fire (usually through individual brilliance) but the rest of the game we are destroyed. Bulldogs first 30 minutes, FANTASTIC, we should have won it if we had of gone on with it but didn't. Last 20 against the tigers... 2nd half against Manly. This is the coach when it happens on a regular basis, not the players having an "off day" especially what are meant to be our better ones.
 
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We have a better list on paper than last year but this year we will end up with the spoon.

Seriously, if there was anything in the coaching that could prove otherwise............we have no attack. It is clearly "just hope for the best and if al else fails, bomb for the corner". Even Shane Flanagan at the Sharks has demonstrated they have plays in attack.

I have no doubt if you put a guy like Bellamy in charge of this rabble, he would at least get SOME improvement out of them.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Blair is a superstar in the making but he is having up and down performances and it seems to be something that sweeps over the entire team, this is even more the case with Sio who doesn't impress me a lot of the time but comes up with some great finishing occasionally. This inconsistency and under performing is what is giving me the impression that the coach is the problem.[/i]

The inconsistency is a feature of young/inexperienced players and we've got plenty of them.

Next year Blair and Sio will both have a full year in first grade under their belts, as will Ryan, Paulo, Lussick and Harrison. Luke Kelly too.
 
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