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End nears for suburban NRL grounds

Perth Red

Post Whore
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Penrith and SFS. 3 of the bottom 4 ground averages were at all seaters!!!!

You were saying?????? :lol:

Hmmmm...

Last season:

Lowest 5 Sydney stadiums crowd avg:
Penrith
Parramatta
Endevour
Campbelltown
Brookvale

Highest
Stad Australia
Leichardt
SFS


Must have been sunny on the days games were played at Leichardt!
 

Loudstrat

Coach
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stay dry,
The only all seater that offers that is Docklands. Plenty of people have been drenched at ANZ and SFS.
know that you can get a seat that will keep you dry if you turn up late or are not a member,
WTF?
no long ques for a drink or something to eat, no long ques for the toilet,
which has nothing to do with seating ffs
25k accomodated comfortably,
at higher prices......
better parking.
Yeah? Where? How is parking at the SFS better than at Penrith?
Of course you could have all these things at a suburban ground, if you can find $150 mill to upgrade them.
Lay off the drugs before posting. You cannot guarantee easy parking, a dry seat, a quicker trip to a urinal or the snack bar in a stadium. You can guarantee higher prices, greater distance and longer communting times, but you ignore that. As someone said, the only idiots pushing for closure of Sydney grounds are people who dont live in Sydney. People who DO live in Sydney clearly want suburban grounds you f*cking brainless twat!!!!!

The game is moving more and more to evening games, sunny sundays on a grass hills are becoming less and less (is it me or does it seem to rain more often during the season now?), how much fun is it sat on a hill on a damp July night?
Can you name a NRL ground that has no seats dumbass? There you are in Perth, telling season ticket holders for seats in grandstands at Brooky, Toyota and Penrith that their plastic seat is no good, and they have to instead have a plastic seat an hour further away? All because a whinging pom in Perth and his sidekick gay police impersonating banana buggerer from Coffs say so?

The only reason Souths got big crowds this year is due to the event factor. Like how an NFL game packed ANZ a decade ago -rare opportunity so everyone gets a chance to see it while they can. Like Halley's comet - seeing Souths win is a rare event.
 

Loudstrat

Coach
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Hmmmm...

Last season:

Lowest 5 Sydney stadiums crowd avg:
Penrith
Parramatta
Endevour
Campbelltown
Brookvale

Highest
Stad Australia
Leichardt
SFS
You dumb f*cktard. Where is the grass at Parra Stadium? :lol::lol:

Must have been sunny on the days games were played at Leichardt!
Thanks for admitting that when conditions are equal people prefer suburban grounds.

Any reason why the lowest crowds in the NRL are all seater stadiums?
 

franklin2323

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England and the US have gone to all seater major stadiums. It's more comfortable. It's safer. it's the way of the future.

Look at the highlights of the Miami game in the NFL. There was no one there. This an all seater a nice sunny day.

On one of the ESPN shows last week they were trying to find ways to get people to go and not stay home and watch it on tv. The NRL will have the same results if they do this.

As for being safer the ANZ surface is terrible some weeks NYC doesn't even get played there. There's no way you play more games there.
 

carcharias

Immortal
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spoke with a few mates last night...all supporters of dif clubs.
none of them would go to SFS or ANZ to watch their teams play.

Going to the footy should be an enjoyable experience ( if you take out the actual heart pulpitations and 10 game losing streak ) .
Sitting on public transport or in heaving traffic for hours only to be ripped off deluxe once you there is not an enjoyable experience.
 

betcats

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24,311
There are a shitload of people who go to surburban grounds that wouldnt come to ANZ of SFS but at the same time there are probably people who won't go out to Suburbia to see their team live but would travel to ANZ or SFS.
 

Frailty

First Grade
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As a kid, I loved going to Parra Stadium, Leichhardt, Caltex Field, and Belmore, and being able to run on the hills and kid my footy around.

When I have kids, I hope they still have the opportunity to do that at Leichhardt and Toyota Park.
 

Cumberland Throw

First Grade
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I'm sure Miami are really worried ???


"The announced crowd for the Dolphins’ 35-13 home-opening victory over the Oakland Raiders on Sunday was 54,245 in a stadium that seats 75,540. It was the kind of day when a fan like Salcedo could grab an empty seat on the 50 and not have anyone within four rows of him."
 

newman

First Grade
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As a kid, I loved going to Parra Stadium, Leichhardt, Caltex Field, and Belmore, and being able to run on the hills and kid my footy around.

When I have kids, I hope they still have the opportunity to do that at Leichhardt and Toyota Park.

I don't even have kids but how good is it when you see hundreds of em rush onto the ground at Toyota after the second siren to have a kick around? In fact, it's hilarious to see grown men with split melon grins jinking through their mates to score a "try". That's a genuine, feel good, community event that happens a couple of times a season. It makes people happy. They smile and laugh. You wouldn't have seen this Perth Red and Bunnies Man.
 
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There are a shitload of people who go to surburban grounds that wouldnt come to ANZ of SFS but at the same time there are probably people who won't go out to Suburbia to see their team live but would travel to ANZ or SFS.

I think this is the point alot of people just aren't getting. Demographics of certain areas have changed over time, as have housing costs, so people have moved out into other areas. But in all likelihood they have kept their loyalty to their team (or their dads team for the kiddos) regardless of where they now live. Walk around Parramatta mall for a couple hours, and whilst you'll see more Eels jerserys than any other, you'll more than likely also see people wearing jerseys for the majority of other clubs as well.
 

carcharias

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I don't even have kids but how good is it when you see hundreds of em rush onto the ground at Toyota after the second siren to have a kick around? In fact, it's hilarious to see grown men with split melon grins jinking through their mates to score a "try". That's a genuine, feel good, community event that happens a couple of times a season. It makes people happy. They smile and laugh. You wouldn't have seen this Perth Red and Bunnies Man.

I have video of my son doing .

It is the highlight of the day for him...
other highlights include high fiving all mascots of any sort...all cheer leaders .
going on the jumping castle
getting ice cream
getting hot chips
running around like a lunatic on family hill

to this day he has been to about 30 games and all up watched about 3 minutes of actual footy.
Make him sit in a plastic seat all day and he will never go again.
 

2012....Sharks Year

First Grade
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Ideally we'd see a two main three minor stadium support programme by the nsw govt. as said if wa govt can spend $1.5 bill on two stadiums don't see why a state 4 times bigger couldn't manage it.
All you need now is a footy team. Different states different economies.....N.S.W.....busted. W.A in a mining boom.
 

Valheru

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100% of their fans turn up every week, all 5000 of them. Don't bag them.

Nah less than that

It? s the away support you see. Everyone just loves watching the roosters at the SFS. They prefer that then going to their own home games :crazy:
 

carcharias

Immortal
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yet plenty of people do already

neeexxxxxxtttttt.......................:cool:

Dogs ... home bush is close for them
Roosters and rabbits ...the SFS is close for them

Dragons sharks and manly would find it a massive hassle
To get there .
Forget Monday nights all together

Imagine a sharks v cowboys on a freezing cold raining Monday night?
There would 20 people there.
 

franklin2323

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I'm sure Miami are really worried ???


"The announced crowd for the Dolphins? 35-13 home-opening victory over the Oakland Raiders on Sunday was 54,245 in a stadium that seats 75,540. It was the kind of day when a fan like Salcedo could grab an empty seat on the 50 and not have anyone within four rows of him."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...ce-drop-worst-in-nfl-20121128,0,4691387.story

From the local paper. The comments down the bottom are very similar to what league fans say.

This is what they mentioned on ESPN

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...in-2007-nfl-attendance-steadily-has-declined/

Again comments mention TV the better option.

The EPL a story on the crazy prices

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/dav.../aug/16/premier-league-football-ticket-prices

Those of you that aren't regualars to TFC AFL has dropped to the lowest level since 1996

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/footy-fans-stay-away/story-fn7si05c-1226454434879

Meanwhile NRL has increased the last few seasons. We have to same issues the other codes have. So why change what is clearly working??
 

papabear

Juniors
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Nah less than that

It? s the away support you see. Everyone just loves watching the roosters at the SFS. They prefer that then going to their own home games :crazy:
your being sarcastic but the bolded it true.

move the roosters to perth already ffs. South sydney can service the eastern suburbs for juniors and supporters.
 

Quidgybo

Bench
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AAP said:
NRL eyeing new stadium strategy

Suburban NRL grounds could be a thing of the past with the league intent on implementing a stadium strategy which will deliver average crowds of 20,000 by 2017.

In a development sure to divide fans of a host of Sydney clubs, the NRL will spend the next three months consulting clubs and their supporters in a bid to determine where games are played in the future.

It has been mooted the NRL could follow the lead of the AFL in Melbourne, which ditched suburban grounds in favour of having all teams play out of Etihad Stadium and the MCG.

A similar move in Sydney could see ANZ Stadium and Allianz Stadium become the home away from home for the nine NRL clubs based in and around Sydney.

More likely however - especially in the short term - would be the move of high-drawing marquee games to larger venues, with suburban grounds left to host matches against low-drawing opposition.

Such a move however could kill off suburban grounds, the upkeep of which may no longer be financially viable without a consistent flow of matches.

"We have committed to a strategic target of averaging 20,000 fans a game by 2017 and to do so we need to look at the capacity we have and the experience we are offering," NRL interim chief executive Shane Mattiske said in a statement released after Wednesday's meeting with club chief executives.

"We are going to have to look at every aspect of our match day and matching games to the appropriate stadiums is at the heart of that.

"This isn't about moving every match to a major venue but it is about ensuring we have the strategies in place to play matches in the most appropriate location for that match."

Included in the stadium strategy will be a long term view to the scheduling of matches in non-traditional and regional areas.

Games will be played in Perth, Darwin, Mackay and Coffs Harbour in 2012.

http://www.nrl.com/nrl-eyeing-new-stadium-strategy/tabid/10874/newsid/70451/default.aspx
 

Billythekid

First Grade
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Can't afford to upgrade any suburban NRL grounds but we have 100 million dollars to spend on an AFL stadium for them to average 5K a game or less (despite also having the option of playing in a bigger stadium right nearby).
 

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