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Schubert must have a grudge against Parra

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I know it has been mentioned many times but its amazing isn't it, players sign more then one contract but know nothing about the rort, neither does the coach. What a lot of bullshxt!!!! The whole affair is a joke!!

they not only signed more than one contract they signed contracts with different amounts on them!
 
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1226556161486


MICHAEL Jennings might be looking back in confusion over his exit from Penrith but he has arrived at Bondi thanks to some deliberate forward planning from Roosters officials.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal the Roosters, traditionally one of the NRL's biggest spenders, went through 2012 with a playing squad $300,000 below the salary cap.
The rare shortfall explains how the lucrative off-season recruitment drive was calculated, with superstar duo Sonny Bill Williams and Jennings signing on in the summer.
Recruitment boss Peter O'Sullivan last night said there was space left in the cap in case another top recruit - former Warriors playmaker James Maloney - agreed to leave New Zealand a season early.
But the Warriors refused to release Maloney, leaving Roosters officials with a decision to make after highly paid pair Todd Carney and Nate Myles were given premature marching orders the previous season.

"We decided not to buy any players straight away because none really fit in with our plans," O'Sullivan said.
Sam Perrett's mid-season departure to Canterbury cleared another $100,000, enabling the Roosters to keep a significant proportion of Maloney's 2013 salary in the previous year's cap.
An increase in marquee player allowances from $300,000 to $550,000 as part of this year's $5.85 million salary cap did the rest, with the powerful Roosters board sourcing outside payments from private sponsors.
Trapped between the Roosters' desire for a specialist left centre and Penrith's determination to create their own salary cap space, Jennings was still getting his head around the change of scenery before his first training session in tri-colours yesterday.
He repeatedly professed a love for Penrith.
"This whole time I didn't know what I was doing," Jennings said. "I was thinking I would stay at Penrith.
"I love Penrith. Moving was never an option for me."
Despite wanting to focus on the season ahead, Jennings could not hide his disappointment over comments from ex-coach Ivan Cleary, who claimed Penrith's highest-paid player did not deliver the necessary returns.
"It's disappointing hearing that," Jennings said.
"Reading the papers (yesterday) ... Ivan is entitled to his own opinion.
"I did everything I could at Penrith. I've got no bad blood against Penrith.
"I love Penrith and I still have a soft spot for them."
Jennings also dismissed suggestions he was frustrated during his final two years at Penrith, which produced sporadic glimpses of his potency.
"I'm not frustrated with (Panthers halfback Luke Walsh) or anything like that," he said. "Under their structure ... I didn't apply myself to getting the ball."

Anything to keep uncle Nick happy. It's a shame he doesn't give Parra the same sort of latitude when it comes to cap manipulation.
 

strider

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i'm confused .... they had maloney's 2013 money in their 2012 cap even though he wasn't playing for them?
 
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i'm confused .... they had maloney's 2013 money in their 2012 cap even though he wasn't playing for them?

I'm glad I'm not the only one confused by it.

At least with Hoppa, he isn't currently contracted to anyone else. So IF we are paying him when he is on his mission, its not like he is being paid by too separate clubs at the same time.
 

Mickyd39

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"We decided not to buy any players straight away because none really fit in with our plans," O'Sullivan said.


As if you can trust anything this merkin has to stay about the salary cap.
 

eel01s

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Unbelievable!

I can understand the Roosters keeping cap space in 2012 IN CASE Maloney became available, but that bolded line is very interesting. Shouldn't all other clubs be up in arms over this?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Unbelievable!

I can understand the Roosters keeping cap space in 2012 IN CASE Maloney became available, but that bolded line is very interesting. Shouldn't all other clubs be up in arms over this?

You don't think the other clubs are doing the same thing? Why do you think clubs release players mid-season without replacing them?
 

84 Baby

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You don't think the other clubs are doing the same thing? Why do you think clubs release players mid-season without replacing them?
The issue is them allowing to keep the "salary" "paid" to a player contracted to another team who in the end never played for the Roosters in 2012. If he had changed midseason, then at least he had provided services to the Roosters and I could cop them even allowing $300k of his salary in 2012 for just showing up to training, but if the salary cap is based upon who is in your first grade squad then this scenario is just plain wrong.

It just appears that when things have already been done, Schubert reverts to contract law to fit the issue into the salary cap (e.g. this example, Melbourne) but when a team tries to be forthcoming and work with him, he's hardline salary cap rules (e.g. us, Manly). I know it's hard to reconcile a set of association rules with actual legislation sometimes but clearly a review of the operative procedures of the rules either need to be reviewed or made more transparent to the average supporter
 

The Engineers Room

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The way they run the salary cap is so murky that it just always looks corrupt.

If they could just simplify it, then these problems wouldn't arise.
 

Poupou Escobar

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The issue is them allowing to keep the "salary" "paid" to a player contracted to another team who in the end never played for the Roosters in 2012. If he had changed midseason, then at least he had provided services to the Roosters and I could cop them even allowing $300k of his salary in 2012 for just showing up to training, but if the salary cap is based upon who is in your first grade squad then this scenario is just plain wrong.

It just appears that when things have already been done, Schubert reverts to contract law to fit the issue into the salary cap (e.g. this example, Melbourne) but when a team tries to be forthcoming and work with him, he's hardline salary cap rules (e.g. us, Manly). I know it's hard to reconcile a set of association rules with actual legislation sometimes but clearly a review of the operative procedures of the rules either need to be reviewed or made more transparent to the average supporter

I agree, but in this case I'd say the detail about two of their new signings has been mixed up. If the Chooks have included one of their 2013 recruits in their 2012 salary cap then it would be SBW, not Maloney.
 

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