Dragons poised to make a play for Bellamy

[thommo4pm]

Would prefer Price every day of the week to Barrett, if the club entertained the idea of Barrett coaching us, then we would have officially hit rock bottom.

 

[Jubileeboy]

I think everyone should be made to read these posts at the start of everyday.

They sure make me laugh and laughter is good for the soul, right ?

 

[trudge]

The dude made a case for Barrett.

Rather than just put shit on it, like a androtop heckler in the dark, make your case against it.

 

[Fire]

Morning everyone.

I had a dream last night that we signed Lote Tuqiri as coach.

I know, what the f**k indeed?!

This whole saga is playing havoc with my mental state lol

 

[Elias1983]

Tim sheens as coach...

Barrett also as coach...

Brown to come back....

What's next? Mark Riddell as our nutrionist????

 

[Jubileeboy]

The dude made a case for Barrett.

Rather than just put shit on it, like a androtop heckler in the dark, make your case against it.

Who u talking to sunshine?

 

[Elias1983]

The dude made a case for Barrett.

Rather than just put shit on it, like a androtop heckler in the dark, make your case against it.

Does a case really need to be made?

He made the suggestion which is all well and good but let's be serious here.

How much coaching experience has barrett had? He's been an assistant coach in the NSW team..that's about it. Origin is very different to coaching week in, week out NRL side.

IMO at the moment I would say no to Barrett, but in the future once he has had a several years experience coaching lower grades then look at his results and decide from there.

He has a very good footballing brain Barrett, but give him to develop it in a coaching role before throwing him into head coach position.

 

[mighty red and whites]

Bring back the wok.......

 

[Johnny-b-Goode]

Bring back the wok.......

He hates the dragons, with a passion. Have you not listened to the abc call a game???

As for Barrett, he will be a future coach and I think he will be a great coach, but he won't coach us and it won't be for another at least 5 years!

 

[Mr Red]

Does a case really need to be made?

He made the suggestion which is all well and good but let's be serious here.

How much coaching experience has barrett had? He's been an assistant coach in the NSW team..that's about it. Origin is very different to coaching week in, week out NRL side.

IMO at the moment I would say no to Barrett, but in the future once he has had a several years experience coaching lower grades then look at his results and decide from there.

He has a very good footballing brain Barrett, but give him to develop it in a coaching role before throwing him into head coach position.

exactly..
Price is the second attempt of bringing in a coach with zero first grade coaching experience.
Brown was a failure, Price yet to aim up..
so someone suggests another coach with zero first grade experience as the solution...
it really doesnt need any case made against it...

 

[Elias1983]

exactly..
Price is the second attempt of bringing in a coach with zero first grade coaching experience.
Brown was a failure, Price yet to aim up..
so someone suggests another coach with zero first grade experience as the solution...
it really doesnt need any case made against it...

If Price fails this year (failure for me would equate to not making the top 6, top 8 not good enough IMO) then my support for the whole "internal promotion" notion that the club loves will be severely tested.


It seems though that the club may be trying to move on from this however with the attempt on Bellamy, even though it looks like we may fail in landing Bellamy I think Doust and the board are just beginning to look outside, from a coaches role anyway.

 

[Breathingfire]

I think Doust and the board are just beginning to look outside, from a coaches role anyway.

I thought the penny might have dropped after we won in 2010 with Bennett, but obviously not because it was back to finding rookie coaches from our lower grades.

In saying that, I think Price deserves another year to prove himself and if he fails then I guess it was only two seasons. That doesn't hurt as much as the Brown days when I felt that we had the best roster by a country mile, but we were so inconsistent and had a terrible team temperament. Although we made Prelims and what not, I really feel that the right coach would have one at least two premierships with that squad we had...it was that good! The manner in which we used to capitulate in tight matches was horrifying.

 

[Minh]

The thing is everybody knows that a topline coach will almost instantly mean success, the problem is there is only three legitimate ones at the moment Bennett, Hasler and Bellamy and even Bellamy is untried outside of the Melbourne Storm with their 3-5 superstars if you included Ingis and Falou as well as Gareth Widdup who is a star in his own right.

 

[Minh]

In regards to Barrett to be honest he might be alright and was actually deep in the mix for the NSW Origin job, but I'm tired of rookie coaches and the next one if it's not Price should he fail we should be looking at one with a decent resume and experience.

 

[Mr Red]

If Price fails this year (failure for me would equate to not making the top 6, top 8 not good enough IMO) then my support for the whole "internal promotion" notion that the club loves will be severely tested.


It seems though that the club may be trying to move on from this however with the attempt on Bellamy, even though it looks like we may fail in landing Bellamy I think Doust and the board are just beginning to look outside, from a coaches role anyway.

IMO Price should pack his bags and head to the UK to gain some first grade coaching experience.
Brown is doing that now with some success, and should have done that in the first instance before stepping up to the NRL.
Superleague seems to be of an ideal stepping stone for a future NRL coach to gain coaching experience, rather than try the jump from being an assistant or coaching the lower grades...

 

[saints4ever]

In regards to Barrett to be honest he might be alright and was actually deep in the mix for the NSW Origin job, but I'm tired of rookie coaches and the next one if it's not Price should he fail we should be looking at one with a decent resume and experience.

All true enough, but of the coaches with that type of experience I wouldnt want near my club. Sheens? No. Smith? Only on a two year deal to prevent the hangover, but still computer says no. Kearney? Hell and f**k no.

The only coach I would take a mini punt on is Rick Stone. IMO Newcastle played a hell of alot better under him in 2011 than they did under a better coach in 2012.

 

[Fire]

Barrett is far more attractive than Price (no homo, not that there's anything wrong with that lol ).

 

[Breathingfire]

Yeah Rick Stone did a fair job with Newcastle but so did Matt Elliott in his first couple of years at Canberra, taking them to the top 4 at one stage...we all know how well he went a Penrith.

 

[jenninga]

Does a case really need to be made?

He made the suggestion which is all well and good but let's be serious here.

How much coaching experience has barrett had? He's been an assistant coach in the NSW team..that's about it. Origin is very different to coaching week in, week out NRL side.

IMO at the moment I would say no to Barrett, but in the future once he has had a several years experience coaching lower grades then look at his results and decide from there.

He has a very good footballing brain Barrett, but give him to develop it in a coaching role before throwing him into head coach position.

Absolutely correct and should scupper any thought of Barrett coaching in the NRL at the moment.
Hornby and Young have made the right moves towards coaching in the future by starting in the lower grades.Can see one of them coaching us in a few years.

 

[Elias1983]

I thought the penny might have dropped after we won in 2010 with Bennett, but obviously not because it was back to finding rookie coaches from our lower grades.

In saying that, I think Price deserves another year to prove himself and if he fails then I guess it was only two seasons. That doesn't hurt as much as the Brown days when I felt that we had the best roster by a country mile, but we were so inconsistent and had a terrible team temperament. Although we made Prelims and what not, I really feel that the right coach would have one at least two premierships with that squad we had...it was that good! The manner in which we used to capitulate in tight matches was horrifying.

Yeh I would have throught so too after 2010. But i'm guessing they were hoping the "Bennett effect" would have rubbed off on Price.

I think he will do better this year but he has the squad to challenge for a top 6 position (top 4 if the halves fire). Scraping into the top 8 by a couple of points won't do, it's the way that they make the top 8 that will speak volumes. If they scrape in because they won their last games or something then that's not good enough IMO.

If they are inside the 8 comfortably (6 or more points) then that is a different story entirely.