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A Warriors haka?

LeagueNut

First Grade
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This isn't one of my joke stories, promise...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/8374537/Warriors-want-own-club-haka

Warriors want own club haka

Warriors co-owner Sir Owen Glenn wants his team to perform a haka before each National Rugby League match.

The multimillionaire philanthropist believes the Auckland club needs to express New Zealand culture.

Sir Owen is creating a haka for the upcoming season that starts this week.

"We are New Zealanders and we're going to bring back a haka for the team and a chant, and we're working on that now with Donna Grant and her husband, Anaru," Sir Owen said.

"This [the Warriors] is a Kiwi brand, let's be proud of it. If we don't win the game, which we will, then let's win the war chant."

Grant, the daughter of late entertainer Sir Howard Morrison, last May became the first woman to be appointed to the Warriors board.

She is executive director of Rotorua's Manaakitanga Aotearoa Charitable Trust, head of performing arts at Te Whare Wananga o Awanuiarangi, and serves on boards including the Glenn Family Foundation, Te Matatini National Kapa Haka and the New Zealand Qualifications Authority Nga Kaituhono Advisory Board.

Sir Owen wants the Warriors to perform the pre-match haka in the same way as the All Blacks. "It is very likely, that's one thing I'd like to have my say on. We are Kiwis, let's be proud of that."

Possible issues surrounding a Warriors haka include the fact not all team members are New Zealanders, and whether it is right for a privately owned club to do the haka.

The merit of Sir Owen's plan was questioned by All Blacks great Wayne "Buck" Shelford, who was credited with putting pride back into the All Blacks' haka in the 1980s.

The sight of the Warriors performing the challenge before every NRL match "would be pretty wearying . . . it's not a national side, it's only a club side," he said. "To have it domestically in a [club] competition would be pretty tiring."

The fact that half of the NRL team that would perform it were in fact Australian was another concern, he said.
I'm really not sure about this idea, it seems a bit OTT. Buck Shelford raises some very valid points as well.

Good thing or bad thing?
 

LeagueNut

First Grade
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Having a club haka would be fine, but getting the players to perform it before every match wouldn't work - just like we don't play the national anthem before every match.

If Sir Owen wants the club to "express their NZ culture" then bring in a local group that can do a haka while the players run on or something. Tie it in with the drummers somehow and keep the cultural theme going through the whole match if you really want to - just leave the players to do what they do best.
 

parraparraparra

Juniors
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No way. Its stupid. Itd take away from kiwi haka and lost in wariors are from Australia.

Doing it too much would take away from it. Maybe for Finals.
 

Rich102

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Please God no!
How about they concentrate on winning games?

This is stupid thinking.
 

Micistm

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God Good. Lets cross over to Gus Gould for his comments...

No, no, no, no, no

Leave it for the ABs, Kiwis, and international Rep sides. Like it or not this is not a NZ side, it's a Club side in an Aussie comp. With Aussie players in it.

Makes more sense to get the Black Caps to do it before games.
 

Iafeta

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Old mate ozbash is right (I knew we would agree some day!). Have a kapa haka group perform as the players come out. Awesome idea. The players, when it's not a national team, when there are people on the roster who are not New Zealanders.... Awful idea. In fact, the single worst idea in Warriors history. Yes, let's celebrate our roots, our heritage, our culture, but not through people who weren't brought up in that culture and have a different heritage.
 

spear tackle

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Agree maostly with all of ther above. Just remember it's an artical from "Stuff" who are well known for bad journalism and general rubbish stories(in my circle of friends at least) if that site wasn't free hardly anyone would read it.
 

shiznit

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i dont see the harm in the Warriors having they're own Haka. I know there are super rugby sides who have they're own ones written for them.

its a great tool for bringing the team closer together... and being Australian is no reason for the players not to be able to perform it.

performing it before each game is f**king stupid... that has to be the dumbest idea ive heard in awhile.

do it like the chiefs... keep it completely in house... the chiefs only bring it out if they are given a Powhiri(traditional maori welcome) somewhere... or after they won the title.

other than that... keep it in house...
 
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