Jarryd Hayne re-signs through till the end of the 2015

[Poupou Escobar]

More Hayne excuses.

I am confident that Slater would be more effective in a shitty team than Hayne. Very confident. Do you know why? Leadership.

Slater may not be as talented, but I bet my nuts that he would have done a better job helping create a team culture and would have consistently put in more effort on the field. These are characteristics that help create team success.

This.

Slater isn't as good a footballer as Hayne, but he brings more to a team.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Should pay packets be relative to a comparison to other teams players, or the value of the player to the club?

Thurston certainly is a better, more consistent player.

But I'd say Hayne has a bigger impact or value to our team than Thurston has to the Cowboys. Cowboys without Thurston suffer but can still win due to other class players - Bowen, Tamou, Scott etc. whereas we've shown Hayne to be crucial to us having any chance of winning in the past few years.

In my opinion, if Hayne & Thurston were in the same team, then JT would certainly demand a substantially higher salary, but given their respective teams and the value/expectation/importance, I'd say Hayne would reasonably demand a similar portion of our cap as JT has of NQ's

So let me get this straight. You have just said that Thurston is better than Hayne and that Thurston is also surrounded by better players at the Cows.

However, in the same breath you have also said that Hayne should be on the same money as Thurston.

How does that work? Isn't the fact that we are much weaker across all positions, including Hayne's marquee position, the very reason why we should pay Hayne less?

 

[Eels Dude]

I am of the strong belief that Slater, Cronk, Thurston and Smith all have leadership characteristics that Hayne doesn't have. I am not alone in this regard. In fact, if we were to extend this argument to all league fans I am very confident that most people would agree with this.

Hayne is very, very talented. However, he still has a lot to learn to become one of the games elite. I cant see why this is so controversial. It is there for all to see on a weekly basis.

Re: Not being able to compare Hayne and Thurston - Feel free to substitute 'Thurston' with 'Slater' and the same points apply.

Are you sure you're not Poupou with your talk about leadership? Your opinion on leadership is just that, an opinion. What is fact is that Slater, Cronk and Smith play in the same side week in and week out and they share the responsibility, and that's not a comparable situation with Hayne and the rabble of a squad he has to play with.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Are you sure you're not Poupou with your talk about leadership? Your opinion on leadership is just that, an opinion. What is fact is that Slater, Cronk and Smith play in the same side week in and week out and they share the responsibility, and that's not a comparable situation with Hayne and the rabble of a squad he has to play with.

Also fact is that talk of Hayne's shit attitude has followed him around for years.

Yes it's just talk, and there might be nothing wrong with his attitude, but where there's smoke there's (usually) fire.

We have also all seen instances where Hayne's attiude has looked like shit both on the field and in the media. We can only base our opinions on the evidence we're presented with and all the people who say Hayne has a poor attitude have a pretty good case.

If you disagree that's fine but you can't conclusively prove your point either. Ultimately it doesn't matter because none of us will be involved in re-signing him (or not).

He will almost certainly stay at the club and we'll never know for sure how much he's getting or how much the other top earners in the game are on. I just hope we end up paying him less than the million plus dollars he could surely earn elsewhere. On his current contribution to the club's culture and results we will be getting a dud deal if he ends up the best paid player in the NRL.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Are you sure you're not Poupou with your talk about leadership? Your opinion on leadership is just that, an opinion. What is fact is that Slater, Cronk and Smith play in the same side week in and week out and they share the responsibility, and that's not a comparable situation with Hayne and the rabble of a squad he has to play with.

This is true - it is just an opinion like everyone else's on here.

We have all watched the Storm and the Eels for years and are capable of making informed commentary. I respect that you don't agree with my views on Hayne. However, I am very confident that it is an opinion that most league fans would share.

I will say though that he is still young and maybe the captaincy this year will turn him into a more complete, selfless player who can lead by example and along with the senior group help Eels players improve in the way that Norrie, Hinchcliffe et al. have at the Storm. No-one would be happier than me if this occurred.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

This thread is going quite well.

 

[Sean7]

You really can't compare Hayne's situation to to Slater's or Thurston's. Hayne doesn't play with one other rep player. You can't compare leadership qualities in that situation. Slater is playing with the best hooker in the game and probably the second best half back. That'd make me look good (that's not having a go at Slater).

Hayne may have his ups and downs, but in terms of his value to the team, he is worth a lot. If Slater has an off game, there are other guys making up for it. If Hayne has an off game, it's all on him. I don't think there's another player in the league with as much responsibility as Hayne. Hopefully, Sandow can change that this year.

 

[yy_cheng]

Watch the little things that slater does extremely well that Haynes doesn't do especially with urgency. Slater catches a lot of balls in the full and burns back the ball. This includes Barba and bowen too. Haeyn has to run back pick it up and then he is surrounded.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Watch the little things that slater does extremely well that Haynes doesn't do especially with urgency. Slater catches a lot of balls in the full and burns back the ball. This includes Barba and bowen too. Haeyn has to run back pick it up and then he is surrounded.

Subjective arguments are subjective.

Objectively, Hayne makes more kick return meterage than any of those gimps. Has done so for years and years and years.

 

[Avenger]

Meanwhile, Parramatta is expected to announce this week that superstar fullback Jarryd Hayne has re-signed with the club in a four-year deal worth more than $3 million.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...l-be-snared-20130324-2go1t.html#ixzz2OUKqPjH8

 

[oldmancraigy]

I am of the strong belief that Slater, Cronk, Thurston and Smith all have leadership characteristics that Hayne doesn't have. I am not alone in this regard. In fact, if we were to extend this argument to all league fans I am very confident that most people would agree with this.

Hayne is very, very talented. However, he still has a lot to learn to become one of the games elite. I cant see why this is so controversial. It is there for all to see on a weekly basis.

Re: Not being able to compare Hayne and Thurston - Feel free to substitute 'Thurston' with 'Slater' and the same points apply.

Do you really believe Slater has leadership characteristics?

He's more like a snotty little kid who is on the angry pills.

Cronk/Smith run that team, and Slater cashes in. I imagine someone like Lachlan Coote could have had a vastly different NRL career had he been playing with leaders like those blokes, under a coach like Bellamy.

Credit to Slater in that he's coachable - and that's not a jest. Plenty of blokes don't thrive in a good system because they won't listen and adapt to a coach.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Meanwhile, Parramatta is expected to announce this week that superstar fullback Jarryd Hayne has re-signed with the club in a four-year deal worth more than $3 million.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...l-be-snared-20130324-2go1t.html#ixzz2OUKqPjH8

While that's going to be great news, could we also get a backrower or 3 who will actually come to the club :lol:

 

[Gary Gutful]

Subjective arguments are subjective.

Objectively, Hayne makes more kick return meterage than any of those gimps. Has done so for years and years and years.

Objectively, Slater is the current Australian fullback ;-)

 

[Avenger]

While that's going to be great news, could we also get a backrower or 3 who will actually come to the club :lol:

I think that all announcements on that front will be made post round 13. No reason to have another Papalii incident.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Do you really believe Slater has leadership characteristics?

He's more like a snotty little kid who is on the angry pills.

Cronk/Smith run that team, and Slater cashes in. I imagine someone like Lachlan Coote could have had a vastly different NRL career had he been playing with leaders like those blokes, under a coach like Bellamy.

Credit to Slater in that he's coachable - and that's not a jest. Plenty of blokes don't thrive in a good system because they won't listen and adapt to a coach.

Yes, I think he has a lot of qualities that Hayne doesn't, leadership being one of them.

Also, don't confuse leadership, with leading a team. They are two very different things. You don't have to have a 7 or a 9 on your back to be a leader.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

Meanwhile, Parramatta is expected to announce this week that superstar fullback Jarryd Hayne has re-signed with the club in a four-year deal worth more than $3 million.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...l-be-snared-20130324-2go1t.html#ixzz2OUKqPjH8

Great news. Am I right that JH qualifies for the long serving player allowance next year (2013 will be his eighth)?

Would be interesting to see what level Hayne would be at if he played under a coach like Belamy for 8 years, instead of Kearney & Hagan.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I think that all announcements on that front will be made post round 13. No reason to have another Papalii incident.

That is what Ben ikin said about Corey Norman reckons it is done deal but won't be announced

 

[hybrideel]

If the reports are to be believed and it is $750K a year, once you take out the long service discount, the marquee player allowance and 3rd party payments, he couldn't be on more than $500K under the cap

 

[broncos2010]

If you ask me Hayne should be around the same money as GI and JT that is how important he is to the eels.

Its simple if he does not play eels struggle, he is an impact player and a match winner and can not be replaced.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Objectively, Slater is the current Australian fullback ;-)

Doesn't mean he makes more kick return meters ;-)