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Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation part III

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Parra

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Why is everyone so George Bush on this?

Divisiveness - the us or them approach is a gift of our current federal government.

They leave us a two part legacy - divisiveness & debt.

This issue should not even arise in drug testing in sport. But the same government chose to politicise this issue when they used senior ministers to make grave announcements and then backed it up with stern comments from the PM.
 

millersnose

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More funding more investigators etc

This particular case seems to be the over riding legal case of the current government

I don't remember government announcing ten extra investigators into any other investigation

This is apparently a huge issue for the government
 

CrazyTiger

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Still trying divert attention from being caught out as coupe and CT being one and the same.

How's the floods?
Have you planned an 18 story extension to your house so you can still have a view?
Are all of your CT posts cleared and authorised by your wife and Capsis?

Crazy Crazy person you are indeed.

Have an awesome day crazy coupe and keep these things in mind;

Sharks will still be there after this ASADA garbage is over
Gal tower will rise high above your picturesque little corner of heaven and will provide you years of viewing pleasure.
Sharks fans will flock into your streets, park everywhere and make noise often.
The shopping centre at the Sharks development will be so convenient that your wife will support us by regularly shopping there.
And the best part, after the development is complete your roads will be filled with new residents making their way to and from wok everyday.

You are going to love it Crazy Coupe, love it!

I'm not R2Coupe.
 

Spot On

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Your response to my post, was framed like I was ASADA and you were asking me questions I have no I idea about

I then assume you think I'm in ASADAs camp 100%

Really???? I don't see it that way nor did I intend for you to comprehend it that way. Apologies. Was simply commenting on something you raised.
 

Diesel

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This dumbass government has invested too much money and also their egos for there not to be some type of result. They only have til mid-September and these pollies will want a major sculp before the election, whether it be Cronulla or Essendon, something major will happen.

They think they are doing a favour to us footy fans but its a disservice and thru have nothing.

I still have no faith in ASADA actually having any evidence of note.
 

Canard

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This dumbass government has invested too much money and also their egos for there not to be some type of result. They only have til mid-September and these pollies will want a major sculp before the election, whether it be Cronulla or Essendon, something major will happen.

They think they are doing a favour to us footy fans but its a disservice and thru have nothing.

I still have no faith in ASADA actually having any evidence of note.

They haven't invested a cent more than what there normal budget is.

If it's legit stuff cheating I don't see what anyone's issue would be, if there evidence is sketchy be assured there will be lawsuits at 10 paces
 

El Diablo

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http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2013/s3752236.htm

Bombers can't claim drug wasn't banned: WADA

David Mark reported this story on Monday, May 6, 2013 08:09:00

TONY EASTLEY: The Essendon AFL club is expected today to release Ziggy Switkowski's long-awaited report into the drug and governance issues at the club.

That issue is the supplements program run last year by the Bomber's former sports scientist, Stephen Dank, and what the club knew about it.

Today Essendon players are also expected to begin their interviews with ASADA.

A key point will be whether the players took banned drugs.

One man who's been watching events is the director general of the World Anti-Doping Agency, David Howman, who visited Australia last week.

David Mark reports.

DAVID MARKS: The biochemist Stephen Dank has told the ABC's 7.30 that he gave some players at Essendon a drug known as AOD-9604.

The drug was recently included on the World Anti Doping Agency's list of banned drugs.

On the weekend Mr Dank told a newspaper he could use the drug because it wasn't named on the WADA prohibited list last year. But that ignores WADA's catch-all ban on all drugs not approved for human use.

David Howman is WADA's director general.

DAVID HOWMAN: Look the drug comes under a category on our prohibited list called section S0, then that sections been designed - it's been in place since 2011 - to ensure that human athletes, elite athletes around the world are not used as guinea pigs for drugs for drugs that have not been approved for therapeutical medical use.

It's a catch-all section, it's there intentionally to protect the health of athletes and as I say to prevent them from being used as guinea pigs.

DAVID MARKS: So the fact that it is not specifically names on the S2 list that he refers to on the WADA code, is irrelevant?

DAVID HOWMAN: It's banned under S0 and you know, I just don't think the discussion needs to go any further than that.

DAVID MARKS: Now we don't know whether that particular drug was used on the Essendon players, we may know a little bit later today when the Switkowski report into the governance at the Essendon Football Club is released. But we theoretically could have a situation in Australia where almost the entire Essendon playing roster - now this is the team that's on top of the ladder and undefeated - could face anti-doping violations. Is that something you believe could occur?

DAVID HOWMAN: Well look, I think the investigation is taking its place in the normal fashion. The one thing that I was not aware of until I visited Australia recently was that all the information that had been gathered by the crime commission cannot be used as evidence per say by the Australian sports anti-doping agency. So, what they have to do is re-collect the information in such a way that they can present it as evidence in any one of their tribunals.

DAVID MARKS: David Howman, as I mentioned, Essendon is sitting at the top of the ladder. The AFL has a lot of interest in Essendon continuing to play games, not the least of it being multimillion dollar TV rights agreements. Does the AFL have a means of cutting a deal with ASADA so players wouldn't be forced to miss games to avoid anti-doping violations?

DAVID HOWMAN: I don't know of anything where you could call cutting a deal. I do know that there are ways and means of addressing these matters in a professional way and my understanding is that the AFL are going about it in a professional way today, so is ASADA. And you would hope with two decent professional groups getting together they would find a way forward.

DAVID MARKS: It's expected ASADA could resume interviewing Cronulla NRL players this week, after the first interview was called off last Monday.

ASADA's lawyers ended the interview when the Cronulla player Wade Graham when he refused to name other players on the grounds that he could incriminate himself.

WADA's director general, David Howman.

DAVID HOWMAN: They have to work with the powers that they've got. I know what they're doing and they're trying to do a professional job. It would be a pity that that would be derailed by people looking for technicalities, but that's the want of lawyers.

I think the issue here is one where ASADA must be extremely frustrated when they've got a lot of data and information, a huge press conference announcing it with the crime commission and they've got to go and do the job again, and, so they must be sitting on data that leads them to take those steps and you would hope that people would come out with it.

TONY EASTLEY: The director general of the World Anti Doping Agency, David Howman speaking to AM's David Mark and you can hear David's full interview with Mr Howman on our website.
 

El Diablo

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The one thing that I was not aware of until I visited Australia recently was that all the information that had been gathered by the crime commission cannot be used as evidence per say by the Australian sports anti-doping agency. So, what they have to do is re-collect the information in such a way that they can present it as evidence in any one of their tribunals.

wonder how they do that

DAVID MARKS: David Howman, as I mentioned, Essendon is sitting at the top of the ladder. The AFL has a lot of interest in Essendon continuing to play games, not the least of it being multimillion dollar TV rights agreements. Does the AFL have a means of cutting a deal with ASADA so players wouldn't be forced to miss games to avoid anti-doping violations?

DAVID HOWMAN: I don't know of anything where you could call cutting a deal. I do know that there are ways and means of addressing these matters in a professional way and my understanding is that the AFL are going about it in a professional way today, so is ASADA. And you would hope with two decent professional groups getting together they would find a way forward.

sounds like a deal has been done that will let Essendon off

maybe that's what Lundy was meeting him about the other day
 
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wonder how they do that



sounds like a deal has been done that will let Essendon off

maybe that's what Lundy was meeting him about the other day

The guy stated that he doesn't know "anything where you could call cutting a deal", but you interprete that as Essendon being let off :crazy:

Time to take the blinkers off El D, take a deep breathe and wait the see the report and how ASADA/The AFL react. Feel free to blow up if they given a free pass at that stage, but until that stage you need to calm down with all your conspiracy theories. It's getting old.

What will be interesting will be how the AFL players handle their interviews with ASADA.
 
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