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Time to stop the clock for conversions

Springs

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Extra 10 minutes of broadcasting = more broadcasting money?

A typical broadcast goes for 2 hours, an extra 10-15 minutes of broadcast time is about a 10% increase, imagine that reflected in our TV deal. Happy days.

Players will adapt to the changing circumstances the fatigue shouldn't even be a consideration imo. With the amount of money that's spent on sports science and time spent on training & rehab the players will be fine.

I think it's definitely thinks it's something that should be considered.

You can't change the rules just because of broadcast money. We have a sport outside of the NRL to think about as well.
 

Springs

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Doesn't work. They tried this once before if memory serves me correctly, for a season or two, sometime in the 80s I reckon it was. They dropped it because games were just taking too long.

Yes. They tried it in trials as well and games were going for two and a half hours.
 

Valheru

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They should stop the clock for any outage. It is ridiculous that a scrum takes 1 minute to pack in the 10th minute but 3 seconds in the 79th and I completely agree that the conversions are beyond a joke as well.

80 minutes of actual playing time may be to much so lower it to 70 with time stopping at all stoppages and I guarantee you would still get more playing time.
 

grouch

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I think it's an additional reward for scoring a try. You get the points plus a minute-ish off the clock.

In the NFL you occasionally see teams actually allowing their opponents to score touchdowns just to stop the clock. Even happened in a superbowl a couple years ago.
 

Packy

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Thread endorsed. Stop the clock and you have 1 min to take kick or opportunity is forfeit.
 

Valheru

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In the NFL you occasionally see teams actually allowing their opponents to score touchdowns just to stop the clock. Even happened in a superbowl a couple years ago.


That is a unique situation because you get the ball back after conceding a touchdown. Obviously you can short kick in league but I can?t imagine a team taking that risk and not backing themselves to hold out the opposition. In NFL it is extremely difficult if not near on impossible to stop a team within your own 5 yard line.
 

Diesel

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I think Super League stopped the clock however it caused a few of the following games to be delayed as the first game hadn't finished within the 2 hour broadcast..for this reason I don't think it'll happen.
 

I Bleed Maroon

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I support this. Why should the other team suffer because the oppositions goal kicker wants to take his randy dandy time setting up the kicking tee.
 
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Doesn't matter now song and dance Soward has gone OS.

But if they can get it in place by the time he comes back in 2014 :lol:
 

timka4

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I'd prefer a shotclock - 30 or 40s between a try being awarded and the conversion needing to be taken. Go over and you miss the opportunity to add 2 points.

I fear that if we stop the clock for this we might go down the track of stopping it everytime the ball goes out of play. We'll end up like the NFL.

Agreed, stop the clock once the try has been awarded and have them kick it within a minute imo.

I diagree with your second point though. I think time should be stopped for drop outs, and penalties, once more time wasting would be penalised (not hard for the refs to enforce). Not sure if stopping time on scrums would be over kill or not.

Just don't like it how the refs change the rules (in terms of time off etc) all of a sudden last 10 min of the game because it's close. Should be consistent throughout
 
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IMO there are too many rest times, aerobic capacity should play more of a part within the sport. So, get rid of conversions, stop the clock as soon as the try is awarded, start it as soon as the restart is kicked. Also video-refs are taking too long, Phil Gould asked for them to be banned a couple of weeks ago, as he's the best coach of all time everything he says is therefore right, on a serious note though, I agree with Gus, Tony Smith the Warrington coach has also said he wants to see the video ref disappear.

As so many of the best tries aren't close to the sticks, conversions therefore punish good tries. If coaches start complaining about the fatigue factor, maybe reduce the sport to 70 minutes.
 
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Card Shark

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Save time on the ball boy bringing out the tee, kick a hole in the ground and toe poke it like the good old days

I reckon go back to the sand bucket - kickers are too accurate & therefore boring with a Tee. Need more uncertainty in a conversion .

Can't agree with stopping the clock for goal kicks though as a high scoring game will never end. If it gets another 10 mins due to time stopped during conversions, another 2 or 3 tries may be scored.

It could get out of hand if the bottom team is copping a flogging.
 

Tom Shines

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I agree. Stop the clock when a try is scored, restart it when a team kicks off. What is the point of letting it count down while both teams are standing around for 2 minutes?

^ This.

It's not difficult, is it?
 

Tom Shines

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Oh and for those that are claiming "games will go too long", have you actually timed how long a half of football goes, whistle to whistle?

Even with injuries and video ref decisions, it hovers around the 44 minute mark.

Introduce the stopped clock and 60-second shot clock and halves of football will be maybe 5 minutes longer. Or if you're watching the delayed Channel 9 game, an extra half an hour.
 
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