Where are the signings??

[Bigfella]

Hopefully we can sign a young guy from another club who is ready to explode onto the scene! Much like the Cowgirls with T Sims or the Goosters with JWH!

Or us with josh Papalii?

 

[The Engineers Room]

Can't see why we would. I know we've got a crap squad, but that crap squad was managing to take up the whole cap in 2011 and 2012. And once you start heavily back-ending deals it becomes self-perpetuating....when you try to sign a new player you've got to back end their contract, because you are just starting to eat the $$$ from earlier back-ended deals.

What about the cap increase?

 

[Someone]

Can't see why we would. I know we've got a crap squad, but that crap squad was managing to take up the whole cap in 2011 and 2012. And once you start heavily back-ending deals it becomes self-perpetuating....when you try to sign a new player you've got to back end their contract, because you are just starting to eat the $$$ from earlier back-ended deals.

id love to see a list of all the players weve lost against the players weve gained over the last 3 years and then add the cap increase ontop of that.

just look at penrith.

 

[Jodeci]

The signings happening is what will make this a clean out, and not simply a self serving fingerpointing exercise.

The 4 were signed months ago. They shouldn't effect the 12 going with regards to money in our cap

We just announced that 12 or more are going

I'm expecting anything up to 6 signings hopefully of first grade quality.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The 4 were signed months ago. They shouldn't effect the 12 going with regards to money in our cap

We just announced that 12 or more are going

I'm expecting anything up to 6 signings hopefully of first grade quality.

Hayne
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Hopoate
Morgan
Sio
Norman
Sandow
Mannah
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Allgood
Hock
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Terepo

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Loko
Mossop
Lussick

That's omitting Moimoi, Paulo, Tanginoa and Pritchard, and only leaves four spots. If you're expecting six more first graders, I hope two of them are happy playing for Wenty.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

The 4 were signed months ago. They shouldn't effect the 12 going with regards to money in our cap

We just announced that 12 or more are going

I'm expecting anything up to 6 signings hopefully of first grade quality.

Yeh, but when we signed the 4 players, we did so in the knowledge that we had at least 8 players of uncertain future out of contract at the end of 2013. (EDIT: in fact, it's probably not unreasonable to expect that the total salaries of the 4 new players are equal to or greater than the total salaries of the 8 current players out of contract at end of 2013).

I genuinely hope you're right, but unless the Maitua / B. Smith cases (who are contracted for 2014) actually do give up their rights, I can't see how we could possibly bring in 6 first graders.

 

[Chipmunk]

Hayne
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Hopoate
Morgan
Sio
Norman
Sandow
Mannah
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Allgood
Hock
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Terepo

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Loko
Mossop
Lussick

That's omitting Moimoi, Paulo, Tanginoa and Pritchard, and only leaves four spots. If you're expecting six more first graders, I hope two of them are happy playing for Wenty.

Unless of course we pick up some better first grade options than the ones we currently have. That way those players will be at Wenty, where they quite possibly belong.

 

[Chipmunk]

Yeh, but when we signed the 4 players, we did so in the knowledge that we had at least 8 players of uncertain future out of contract at the end of 2013. (EDIT: in fact, it's probably not unreasonable to expect that the total salaries of the 4 new players are equal to or greater than the total salaries of the 8 current players out of contract at end of 2013).

I genuinely hope you're right, but unless the Maitua / B. Smith cases (who are contracted for 2014) actually do give up their rights, I can't see how we could possibly bring in 6 first graders.

I read when the sacking of the 12 came out a comment in the newspaper that Ben Smith had already been in discussions with Sticky about retirement or moving to another Club. If we mutually agree for him to retire and then just give him a 12 month contract as a development officer on the same money that surely wouldnt be classed as a player on our salary cap? After all Cayless, Burt and I think Hindmarsh are all working for the Club, Im guessing theyre not under our salary cap? It appears Maitua is going to be taken off our hands soon.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Unless of course we pick up some better first grade options than the ones we currently have. That way those players will be at Wenty, where they quite possibly belong.

I suppose out of that lot only Sio and Terepo are likely to be cheap enough to justify playing them in Wenty (notwithstanding Fui and Joseph Paulo, who are both probably too expensive not to be in first grade).

Anyway, Terepo is about to sign an upgrade (or f**k off elsewhere) and I dare say he will be on too much to justify keeping out of the top 17.

 

[parra pete]

Are the rumours right that Weller Hauraki, Kris Keating, and Todd Lowrie are three of the six first graders to be announced soon as signings???

 

[Jodeci]

Yeh, but when we signed the 4 players, we did so in the knowledge that we had at least 8 players of uncertain future out of contract at the end of 2013. (EDIT: in fact, it's probably not unreasonable to expect that the total salaries of the 4 new players are equal to or greater than the total salaries of the 8 current players out of contract at end of 2013).

I genuinely hope you're right, but unless the Maitua / B. Smith cases (who are contracted for 2014) actually do give up their rights, I can't see how we could possibly bring in 6 first graders.

There are some quality players off contract from other clubs.

We need to be patient

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Are the rumours right that Weller Hauraki, Kris Keating, and Todd Lowrie are three of the six first graders to be announced soon as signings???

I believe those are three that we will no longer be subsidising next year.

 

[Chipmunk]

Are the rumours right that Weller Hauraki, Kris Keating, and Todd Lowrie are three of the six first graders to be announced soon as signings???

Pete...that's just not funny mate.

 

[Eelpout]

There are some quality players off contract from other clubs.

We need to be patient

:sarcasm:

 

[The Engineers Room]

Hayne
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Hopoate
Morgan
Sio
Norman
Sandow
Mannah
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Allgood
Hock
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Terepo

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Loko
Mossop
Lussick

That's omitting Moimoi, Paulo, Tanginoa and Pritchard, and only leaves four spots. If you're expecting six more first graders, I hope two of them are happy playing for Wenty.

Sio, Allgood and/or Mossop will be at Wenty and still not sure Sandow will be here.

 

[Someone]

Sio, Allgood and/or Mossop will be at Wenty and still not sure Sandow will be here.

not sure how serious.

:sarcasm:

 

[IFR33K]

Sio, Allgood and/or Mossop will be at Wenty and still not sure Sandow will be here.

Mossop leaving esl to play reserves. Interesting.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sio, Allgood and/or Mossop will be at Wenty and still not sure Sandow will be here.

As Fui ages he is developing some critical weaknesses in his game and as such I expect him to be behind both Allgood and Mossop next year.

Fui still makes decent metres because he is quick (i.e. he gets to the line quickly) but as soon as he makes contact with the opposition he is dominated. Whichever poor merkin runs the ball after Fui is invariably running at a set defensive line.

 

[hineyrulz]

As Fui ages he is developing some critical weaknesses in his game and as such I expect him to be behind both Allgood and Mossop next year.

Fui still makes decent metres because he is quick (i.e. he gets to the line quickly) but as soon as he makes contact with the opposition he is dominated. Whichever poor merkin runs the ball after Fui is invariably running at a set defensive line.

Yep Fui has been fantastic for us but his play the balls are just about the slowest in the comp these days

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yep Fui has been fantastic for us but his play the balls are just about the slowest in the comp these days

He could probably still be effective attacking on the edge but defending in the middle, which he seemed to do a bit of vs the Chooks (I think it was). It's a useful position swap considering we have Matt Ryan who defends (relatively) well out wide but offers little in attack.