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Maroubra Eel

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Which category would Suitman come under?

He's not Croation, so cross that off.

He reckons he's not a bandwagoner, so rule that out.

He does have a beer gut, and does like his team winning but.
 

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the quality of soccer on display on Saturday night (particularly from FC) was garbage.

People who think that soccer is going to become the major Australian sport need to get a grip, the local league will always be shit in quality because the money on offer is nothing compared to overseas, meaning we will always end up with the dross, and at best an aging marquee player.

Raising the profile of the sport will increase the numbers of juniors playing the game, but any quality will be snapped up by overseas clubs early on simply because they will always be able to offer better money and much more prestige.

Its doesn't matter how many Croats, band-wagoners and beer bellied glory seekers jump up and sing and dance, lack of financial backing in a world wide perspective means mediocre soccer.

You are absolutely correct. No doubt about it. Look at the Mariners players Tom Rogic and Matt Ryan. Both outstanding talents last year and both whipped straight off to Europe/Britain.
Nothing we can do about it unfortunately. Nothing wrong though with bringing aging marquees here though. Shinji Ono has been brilliant and a massive plus for the A-League. ADP has risen the profile of the local game overseas. The more players of this calibre we bring here, the more the competition will be respected.
The larger it gets, the more money available, the more esteem it is held in, and the quality will improve. It's early days yet in the life of the competition.
And I agree with your second point. The only person I've heard say that football will be the dominant sport in this country is David Gallop, and he's paid to say shit like that.

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You are absolutely correct. No doubt about it. Look at the Mariners players Tom Rogic and Matt Ryan. Both outstanding talents last year and both whipped straight off to Europe/Britain.
Nothing we can do about it unfortunately. Nothing wrong though with bringing aging marquees here though. Shinji Ono has been brilliant and a massive plus for the A-League. ADP has risen the profile of the local game overseas. The more players of this calibre we bring here, the more the competition will be respected.
The larger it gets, the more money available, the more esteem it is held in, and the quality will improve. It's early days yet in the life of the competition.
And I agree with your second point. The only person I've heard say that football will be the dominant sport in this country is David Gallop, and he's paid to say shit like that.

Suity

This.

Football (soccer) leagues all over the world lose their best talents to wealthier competitions. It doesn't stop those leagues from receiving support, interest and revenue.

The fans of teams that play in those leagues take it as a point of pride that their clubs produce players that are in demand overseas. When it comes to sport most people don't bother pissing and moaning about market forces.

But I would be pissed if the NRL ever abandoned its salary cap. Rugby league isn't a sport where players (and teams) of vastly differing levels of ability should be playing against each other, because the weaker team wouldn't just get bashed on the scoreboard.

Whereas if an A League team played against Barcelona, for example, it would be the latter's players that would be more likely to get injured.
 

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/ffa-wants-larger-sydney-derby-venue/5058778?section=sport

FFA wants larger A-League venue should Sydney FC meet Wanderers in grand final derby

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Photo: The Wanderers' 2-0 win over Sydney FC last week attracted a sell-out 40,388 crowd at the SFS. (Getty Images: Mark Nolan)
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The FFA are considering shifting the A-League Sydney derbies to a bigger venue next season and have already booked Sydney's Olympic stadium should the cross-town rivals meet in this campaign's grand final.
Last week's first clash of the season between Western Sydney and Sydney FC was a sell-out, amassing a record crowd of 40,388 at the Sydney Football Stadium - trumping the Sky Blues' largest crowd for regular-season game and far exceeding last season's best figure for the derby of 26,176 at the same ground.
With the January 11 fixture between the two sides also sure to be a sell-out the debate has again been raised over moving it from the 20,000-seater Parramatta Stadium to a larger venue like the Olympic stadium which can accommodate over 80,000 fans.
A-League boss Damien de Bohun, while open to the possibility for next season, has all but ruled out a switch of venue for the two remaining Sydney derbies this campaign, the final one to be played on March 8 at Homebush.
De Bohun said besides the Wanderers' contractual obligations to play their home games at Parramatta, they also would not want to do wrong by their 16,000 members.
"A big part of the Wanderers' success is their loyalty to their fans, they're part of the club's DNA," de Bohun said.
"They have a commitment to Parramatta as their home ground and they're committed to their fans to play their games there.
"With 16,000 members, they need to stay loyal to those fans who have brought those memberships so they can be guaranteed a place at all the big games at Parramatta.
"If the club themselves were to express an interest in moving the derby to a larger venue then we would definitely look at that."
De Bohun admitted the commercial opportunity a larger venue presented was attractive and said the FFA would look at the prospect from next season.
"There are a lot of commercial reasons why you'd look at it very seriously and we're very alive to that," he said.
"We will definitely be looking at that when we come to fixturing next season and beyond.
"We are serious about growing the league and we think the opportunity to play matches in the future at big venue like [the Olympic stadium] is something that we need to look at very seriously."
And, in an effort to capitalise on the momentum the Sydney derby is gaining de Bohun revealed the FFA had already moved to shore-up the city's largest stadium should the two sides meet in this season's title-decider on May 4.
"We have placed a booking on the Olympic Stadium for grand final day in the event it plays out that way," he said.
"ANZ Stadium is being considered as a grand final venue across the board this season, but it becomes particularly relevant if the grand final is a Sydney derby."
The Wanderers will be able to better cater for a burgeoning fan base from next season with Parramatta Stadium to undergo expansion which will increase capacity by 4000 seats.
The club are also exploring the possibility of installing of German-style "rail seating", widely used in the Bundesliga, to allow safe standing areas as part of the overall stadium upgrade.
 

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you cant deny the sport is growing. and good on it.

the quality should improve over the next 10 years with more and more quality youth players coming through as the sports growing popularity = more involvement in juniors.
 

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f**ks sake you smug merkins. Sydney FC have won more grand finals than the Wanderers and lost fewer.

None of it gives any merkin the right to gloat.
 

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f**ks sake you smug merkins. Sydney FC have won more grand finals than the Wanderers and lost fewer.

None of it gives any merkin the right to gloat.

lol.
No smugness you merkin. Just enjoying the fact they are a joke, we have far more members after 18 months when they've had 9 years, we are better on AND OFF the pitch, and have taken active levels of support to a degree never before seen in this country.
Lets see where both clubs stand in 10 years, shall we? The burgeoning multi-cultural population of western Sydney will ensure the Wanderers future.
The latte sipping demographic in the East will hardly increase the ESFC supporter base over that time frame.
ESFC = Titanic.

In Michael Beauchamp's post match interview after the derby, he said he was "proud to be a westie". We all are.

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but when we talk about soccer potentially being the biggest code, i don't think that necessarily means the local competition has the be top quality - you can gain support by having a reasonably decent local competition and all those people being big fans of the top leagues around hte world - as long as they have something reasonable to watch here
 

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Mate it's the Wanderers that are exclusive. Sydney FC is for every merkin, especially those of us who aren't trying to make a statement.

I just watch them on TV. Whilst reading or ironing my shirts. I don't give a f**k about active support or sticking it up anyone.
 
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Suitys attitude is pretty much what i come across on saturday night, particluarly from older blokes in the crowd. Its a smugness by numbers thing - look how awesome we are - we sing and dance and carry on. Were the best thing since ever. Rugby league is shit cos we make more noise than any merkin, our atmosphere is better than you merkins because we sing and dance and make more noise.
Nevermind that the product on the park is shite. Well just sing and dsnce and make noise.
 

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In 10 years time the WSW will have some real fans. The current mob are a bunch of turncoats.
Fancy just switching teams over the off season. What a bunch of merkins.
 

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Suitys attitude is pretty much what i come across on saturday night, particluarly from older blokes in the crowd. Its a smugness by numbers thing - look how awesome we are - we sing and dance and carry on. Were the best thing since ever. Rugby league is shit cos we make more noise than any merkin, our atmosphere is better than you merkins because we sing and dance and make more noise.
Nevermind that the product on the park is shite. Well just sing and dsnce and make noise.

Exactly mate. Lots of people sing and dance at a one direction concert. Doesn't mean it is any good.
 
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