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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

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Of course they will, but there are not many acts that can attract in excess of what Alliance can hold.

Seemingly there are more than can attract between 18-40k though. In fact it may only have outdoor concerts in the 30-40k range for itself, the new WSS could bid for some too.

Point is I don’t see Allianz attracting any extra concerts to Sydney, artists come for the full tour, not just one city.

And without a roof I don’t see them stealing any concerts off ANZ. It’s going to be the same situation as right now, which is another reason Allianz should be 30k, not 40-45k.
 

unforgiven

Bench
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Need to remember, Allianz will only cater to concerts that can sell between 18000-40000 tickets, that’s a limited space in itself.

The travel aspect has little to do with anything. Concerts are how bands make their money, they’ll travel if if they can sell 1000 tickets more than Allianz can hold.

If Allianz really wanted to attract more concerts they should’ve put a retractable roof on it, that certainty from the weather could’ve stolen a few concerts from ANZ.

I actually agree with everything you are saying and think what is proposed for Allianz is overkill to say the least and that the government has their priorities all wrong. All I'm saying is its conceivable that the new Allianz stadium will increase its share in terms of concerts.
 

unforgiven

Bench
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Seemingly there are more than can attract between 18-40k though. In fact it may only have outdoor concerts in the 30-40k range for itself, the new WSS could bid for some too.

Point is I don’t see Allianz attracting any extra concerts to Sydney, artists come for the full tour, not just one city.

And without a roof I don’t see them stealing any concerts off ANZ. It’s going to be the same situation as right now, which is another reason Allianz should be 30k, not 40-45k.

I agree that it won't be attracting any acts to Sydney that wouldn't otherwise be here.

You are wrong about it only being able to hold 40000 people though. The current stadium can hold in excess of 50000 people for concerts, I'd think the new stadium would be similar and at 52000 may be big enough for most acts to consider.
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
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Haha, the Ruskis have better stadiums than us ffs.

Pretty much every country does lol. We only have 5 decent modern all seater rectangular stadiums in the whole country (and 2 of them are deemed past their sell by date and are being demolished or renovated). Having soccer as your main sport helps I guess.
ANZ
Allianz
Suncorp
Gold Coast
AAMI
 

Cumberland Throw

First Grade
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Pretty much every country does lol. We only have 5 decent modern all seater rectangular stadiums in the whole country (and 2 of them are deemed past their sell by date and are being demolished or renovated). Having soccer as your main sport helps I guess.
ANZ
Allianz
Suncorp
Gold Coast
AAMI


Anz ?? It's a long oval
 
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Las Vegas: Finally, the Raiders are set to play in a brand new stadium in the heart of the city.

No, not the Canberra Raiders. The Oakland Raiders, who are set to relocate to Las Vegas for the 2020 NFL season and play out of a brand new, 65,000 seat, $1.84 billion stadium with a retractable roof a short walk away from the strip.

An artist impression of Raiders Stadium in Las Vegas.

Photo: Supplied
The franchise will become the Las Vegas Raiders and reap the rewards of having a state of the art venue a short walk from the centre of one of the busiest boulevards on the globe.

It is a concept the Canberra Raiders and ACT Brumbies have been dreaming of for years with crowds dropping at Canberra Stadium, which effectively sits in the middle of a ghost town and boasts no game day atmosphere.

The Brumbies are in danger of posting one of their worst season average attendance numbers in the Super Rugby club's history while Canberra's crowd figures have dropped off during the NRL season.

Both clubs have made no secret of their desire for a new stadium in the city, which has been put on the backburner but remains on the cards as the ACT government appears likely to buy Canberra Stadium.

Jeremy Aguero is the principal for Las Vegas-based company Applied Analysis, which serves as the staff for the Las Vegas Stadium Authority, and says a new stadium in one of the world's most famous cities will make for an unrivalled game day atmosphere.

"There’s no doubt that it is very close to the Las Vegas strip," Aguero told Fairfax Media.

"The expectation is the stadium itself will have a significant impact on the community, both in terms of construction of the project - it’s a $1.84 billion project so already creating jobs for hundreds of construction workers to work on the project.


"Longer term, the events that will be at the stadium are pretty significant. We anticipate about a million visitors as a result of the stadium’s existence which will mean filled hotel rooms and restaurants and those type of things which are very important."

Stadium backers expect upwards of 25 major events to be held in the stadium each year, ranging from NFL games as big as the Super Bowl to UFC and boxing events, concerts, and potentially the FIFA World Cup.

Canberra Stadium is outdated.

Photo: Karleen Minney.
Meanwhile about $1.3 million will be spent on improving Canberra Stadium this year, with upgrades due for player and officials match rooms to meet territory guidelines on sporting facilities supporting women, new turf, a new electronic scoreboard and video replay screen for the 2020 football season.

Barr admits a redevelopment of Canberra Stadium would require the growth of a surrounding precinct, however already existing restaurants, pubs and clubs make building a Civic Stadium an ideal option.


Aguero expects Las Vegas will benefit in a huge way with the city's constant buzz “making a long weekend out of it for the people that are coming specifically for Raiders games”.

"I don’t think there is any doubt. We’re already seeing it with the Golden Knights NHL hockey team," Aguero said.

"Of course they play at a different venue, the T-Mobile Arena, which was constructed in 2016. In the Golden Knights’ inaugural season we saw 30 per cent, plus or minus, of tickets being sold to fans from the opposing team.

"Of course some of those would be fans that live here but we’ve heard from hotel and casino operators that a number of fans are coming from out of town.

"That is driving the number of hotel rooms, but again Las Vegas has had the ability to do that. We have the T-Mobile Arena, we have the MGM Grand Garden Arena, we have the Mandalay Bay Events Center, all of which have been able to attract larger events.


"From a Raiders perspective, that’s a real positive."

The same thing could be a real positive in Canberra if a deal can be struck to build a stadium in the city and reignite interest in the region's leading sports teams.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sp...a-blueprint-for-canberra-20180608-p4zke6.html
 
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I'm well aware what a pilot is champ.I'm also aware they handle different types of climatic conditions from day to day.This one \s engines stopped for a period, because of the clogging of the engines by ash.

Secondly volcanoes don't; have consistent year to year eruptions.The one in Hawaii is a classic example.Longest period of erupting/exposing gases for many a long year.

Finally scientists are not infallible, when it comes to the weather .Warragamba is not empty or even near it.
Science gave us nukes also.
The removal of forests and rainforests ,also has a hell of a lot to do with the problem.It ain't just industry.
You're correct it's zero to do with stadiums, so why was coal brought up in the first place by the Perth Pirate?

No. Volcanoes/geothermal activity account for approx 200million metric tonnes of ghg emissions per year. Human industrial activity accounts for 25 billion.
We also do not see any real measurable spikes and troughs that correlate with major geological events.

Pilots and ash have literally nil to do with these easily measurable facts.

Now, to segue back to topic. I'd be curious to know what sustainability measures our sexy new stadia have in place.
 

seanoff

Juniors
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Utterly fanciful bunch of words comparing Canberra to Las Vegas.

The same thing could be a real positive in Canberra if a deal can be struck to build a stadium in the city and reignite interest in the region's leading sports teams.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sp...a-blueprint-for-canberra-20180608-p4zke6.html

In what world is Canberra even remotely comparable to Vegas. One of the worlds great (greatest) party/entertainment/tourist cities v Canberra. :D:D:D:D:oops::rolleyes:

People WANT to go to Las Vegas v Canberra where even most of the people that live there want to get out.

Indeed the stadium would probably become the major thing to visit after the war memorial but no one is going to go to canberra for a stadium unless the stadium comes with happy endings, free massage, etc
 
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In what world is Canberra even remotely comparable to Vegas. One of the worlds great (greatest) party/entertainment/tourist cities v Canberra. :D:D:D:D:oops::rolleyes:

People WANT to go to Las Vegas v Canberra where even most of the people that live there want to get out.

Indeed the stadium would probably become the major thing to visit after the war memorial but no one is going to go to canberra for a stadium unless the stadium comes with happy endings, free massage, etc

True, but the general point of stadiums closer to amenities makes sense. Particularly in Canberra where there’s very little outside of the civic area.
 
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