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Put a fork in Scotland, they're done

Pommy

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My theory on the decline of Scottish soccer mirrors the decline of the English soccer team (barring last year’s fluke WC Semi) is that when I was a kid all top flight teams had at least two or three Scots in the squad. That would have been 50+ players playing at the highest level in the U.K. now you’re lucky to find two or three Scots in the whole of the Premier League. English clubs no longer sign their players from within the U.K. They sign them from anywhere in the world and have the financial clout to do so.

Has the English side really declined? We haven’t won anything since 66 and have been floating around quarters pretty consistently all of my life.
 

deluded pom?

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Has the English side really declined? We haven’t won anything since 66 and have been floating around quarters pretty consistently all of my life.
With all the money sloshing around the EPL and the ridiculous wages mediocre English players are paid I expect to win the WC and the Euros every time. We rarely get anywhere near despite all the jingoistic BS from the tabloids every tournament.
 

Pommy

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With all the money sloshing around the EPL and the ridiculous wages mediocre English players are paid I expect to win the WC and the Euros every time. We rarely get anywhere near despite all the jingoistic BS from the tabloids every tournament.

Wages don’t make talent though. Anyway I really think we’re on the up at the moment.
 

adamkungl

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I've always found it bizzare that an area so close to League heartland never embraced the code..

I've always been led to believe the Scots were a rough bunch (Braveheart and the Glasgow kiss aside) so I would have thought they would have relished such a game..

The sport doesn't really give them anything to hold onto though.
What would inspire them to pick up the game - there's no local (professional) teams, there's no touring teams, the Scottish national team rarely even plays there.

In the old times when the codes of football were first taking root, touring teams would inspire locals to take up the game.
These days you need a constant presence, there are far too many professional sports options for someone to pick up a foreign game just coz they happen to play it a few hours down the road. Right now, there's more chance of your average Scottish (or anyone, anywhere) teenager being inspired by the NBA or NFL than Rugby League.
 

deluded pom?

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I've always found it bizzare that an area so close to League heartland never embraced the code..

I've always been led to believe the Scots were a rough bunch (Braveheart and the Glasgow kiss aside) so I would have thought they would have relished such a game..
Scotland may border Cumbria but there’s little RL in the north of Cumbria and the border region of Scotland is one of their main RU areas.
 
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https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/expansionist-blog-rugby-league-history-being-made-in-scotland/

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http://www.scotlandrl.com/2019/08/15/mcewans-sponsorship/

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Scotland Rugby League are pleased to announce that they have reached agreement with the iconic Scottish beer brand, McEwan’s, to sponsor their National League from 2020.

The McEwan’s brand covers very well known beer brands such as McEwan’s Lager, McEwan’s Export, McEwan’s 70 and 80 and McEwan’s Champion Ale. McEwan’s Lager famously sponsored St Helens in the 1990’s.

From 2020 the league in Scotland will be known as ‘The McEwan’s National League’. McEwan’s will provide each club with banners and posters to support the sponsorship and with some beer for responsible consumption. McEwan’s will also provide a branded kit bag for each club in Scotland and for the Scotland senior men’s and student teams. Each club will support the sponsorship by featuring the McEwan’s logo on their match kit and will support the brand across all social media channels.

McEwan’s Brand Manager, Joanna Stickler, said

We are really keen to support local activities in Scotland and rugby league fits very well for us. It is a community based game in Scotland that is driven by very enthusiastic and passionate players and volunteers. It is a very good fit with our McNificient campaign and we look forward to working with everyone involved in rugby league in Scotland to improve the profile of the McEwan’s brand and support the growth of the game.

Scotland Rugby League, Chair, Keith Hogg said

We are really pleased to be working with Joanna to help develop the McEwan’s brand. The McEwan’s brand has a rich heritage in Scotland and it is hard to think of a better brand to support our National League. McEwan’s and rugby league in Scotland are a great fit.
 
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http://www.scotlandrl.com/2019/07/21/edinburgh-lift-scottish-cup/
Edinburgh Eagles: (4) 30

Tries: Logan (2), Clarke (2), Walker, Baselala, Robertson Goals: Mair

Strathmore Silverbacks: (18) 22

Tries: Burgess (2), Feighan, Hall Goals: Burgess (3)

The Scottish Cup competition returned in 2019 following a five year sabbatical. The final, played on Saturday 20th July at Lochinch Sports Pavilion in Glasgow, saw Edinburgh Eagles face Strathmore Silverbacks in what has become a “derby” of sorts in the last few years.

The open-age clash, played in temperatures approaching 22 degrees, was preceded by an under 16’s game between the two clubs in match two of the three scheduled. As with the first, the Eagles took the spoils but the margin victory was far less due to a much improved Silverbacks performance with Edinburgh winning 34-24.

In the main event, it could’ve been argued than Edinburgh Eagles would start as slight favourites due to the regularity of their fixtures in the North East of England league competition, but it was Strathmore who started the brighter of the two sides and opened the scoring when Andrew Burgess intercepted a pass from Eagles’ Lewis Clarke to race in from forty metres. The same player added the extras to make it 6-0.

The capital-based Eagles were their own worst enemies at times and a series of handling errors and penalties gifted the Silverbacks both possession and field position. Marshalled by experienced halfback Fraser McKay, the Silverbacks took the ball close to the Edinburgh line before Glenn Feighan crashed over off a Stuart Gray short-ball. Burgess was again successful with the conversion, as he was for a third time when converting Niall Hall’s close range try, giving the Forfar outfit an unexpected, yet fully deserved, 18-0 lead.

This seemed to be the shock to the system that The Eagles needed and they finally settled in to the game. A series of exchanged errors or completed sets ensued and Edinburgh finally managed to get themselves on the score board shortly before halftime, when prop Terry Logan took a Gareth Walker pass and powered his way over the line. The conversion was missed which meant the Strathmore Silverbacks were leading 18-4 at the break.

Whatever Edinburgh Eagles player-coach Craig Robertson and captain Lewis Clarke said to their team must’ve worked as this became the old clichée of “a game of two halves” in the second forty.

First on the scoresheet following the restart was Clarke who barged over following some good footwork. Mikey Mair converted to make it 18-10 in favour of the Silverbacks but the fight back had begun.

Over the next twenty minutes there seemed little the Strathmore defence could do to stop the Edinburgh juggernaut. It was an off day with boot for the Eagles but tries Gareth Walker, Lennox Baselala, Robertson and Clarke with his second of the game, put them 26-18 up with only nine minutes to play.

The heat and physicality of the game was starting take its toll on both teams but like boxers entering the final round of a title bout, neither wanted to throw in the towel and when Strathmore’s Burgess swooped on a loose Edinburgh pass to score with seven minutes to go, it was game on once again.

The game was however decided with the last play of the game when powerhouse Logan forced his way over for the Eagles to secure a 30-22 victory and see Edinburgh Eagles crowned Scottish Cup winners 2019.

Barry McGuffog, Chairman of Edinburgh Eagles, said:

We knew the game with Strathmore would be very competitive and we were made to work very hard right till the end of the match. They put us under a lot of pressure in the first half and throughly deserved their 18-4 lead at half time. We then played a lot better in the second half and controlled possession. All credit to them for coming back strongly in the last 10 minutes and taking the game right to the final set.

Dave Vernon, Head Coach Strathmore Silverbacks, said:

The match was everything we were expecting, we started the match well and were really happy at half time. However, we struggled to gain possession in the second half and Edinburgh’s experience showed. I was really pleased that the guys found a way back into the match towards the end and to take the game right to the final minute was a good achievement.

Ollie Cruickshank, Director of Operations for Scotland Rugby League, said:

Saturday was a very good day for rugby league in Scotland. We had 35 Under 16’s playing in a very competitive match before the Cup Final and then saw 2 very well matched teams play out a highly competitive Cup Final that went right to the final minute. We have seen good increases in player numbers this summer which bodes well for the 2020 season

Edinburgh Eagles:

Clayton Woods, Lennox Baselala, Iveri Cikaitoga, Matt Hart, Ross Marwick, Craig Robertson, Lewis Clarke, Terry Logan, Gareth Walker, Jona Kainoco, Michael Mair, Doug Watters, Llimo Torau

Interchange: Michele Crolla, Stuart McBain, Douglas Thomson, Sean Taylor, Zachary McCall, Norani Vuna, Robert Stitt

Strathmore Silverbacks:

Michael Jamieson, Conall McDonagh, Thomas Heshmonglagh, James Doherty, Shaun Duthie, Andrew Burgess, Fraser McKay, Kevin Franco, Connor Blackmore, Stuart Gray, Niall Hall, Cameron Robertson, Glenn Feighan

Interchange: Craig Henderson, Tam Lindsay, Max Pringle, Andrew Paul, Ian Reid, FrancoShaun

Referee: Dave McKervail Touch Judge: Ollie Cruickshank, Alex Chandler

Photo credit: John Preece (The Edinburgh Reporter)
 

adamkungl

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Scotland has dropped down from full member status with the Rugby League European Federation (RLEF) to being an affliate member because of a lack of junior and senior participants.

Finally, i guess.

The good news is they're actually seemingly at a better position now than they have been for the last few years, counting 4 mens open and u16s clubs, and working on schools and womens programs.
 

deluded pom?

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Scotland has dropped down from full member status with the Rugby League European Federation (RLEF) to being an affliate member because of a lack of junior and senior participants.

Finally, i guess.

The good news is they're actually seemingly at a better position now than they have been for the last few years, counting 4 mens open and u16s clubs, and working on schools and womens programs.
So they will be the first affiliated nation to play in the WC.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Scotland has dropped down from full member status with the Rugby League European Federation (RLEF) to being an affliate member because of a lack of junior and senior participants.

Finally, i guess.

The good news is they're actually seemingly at a better position now than they have been for the last few years, counting 4 mens open and u16s clubs, and working on schools and womens programs.

Hopefully this give the admin a bit of a kick
 
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