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[gerg]

This move has nothing to do with seeing the world or challenging himself and everything to do with who is going to pay him the most. They're professional athletes. That's the nature of their business.

 

[reanimate]

I'm just curious as to how you thought he got them to win? Actually review that entire season, every single victory they had came about because of Foley kicking an average of 15 points per game and almost all of that came off the scrum and lineout they had because their forward pack was essentially the test team.

You said he was one of the worst fullbacks in the sport, yet he topped the try scorers list that year and held his own in terms of the other aspects of his game for them to be able to win. Not a bad effort for the supposed worst fullback in the sport. If he was that much of a plonker at fullback, the Tards would still be titleless.

 

[t-ba]

Where the f**k do these French clubs get their money from?

Their TV deal is under half of the NRLs. I'm assuming some of that difference must be covered by money from the internationals, but It's still nuts.

Stade Francais' budget wasn't far off of Brisbane's, and they were comfortably the biggest spenders in the competition.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/top-14-budgets-2018-19-revealed-reports/

Is it all sugar daddies? What percentage of their revenues are sunk into wage bills?

 

[ReddFelon]

You said he was one of the worst fullbacks in the sport, yet he topped the try scorers list that year and held his own in terms of the other aspects of his game for them to be able to win. Not a bad effort for the supposed worst fullback in the sport. If he was that much of a plonker at fullback, the Tards would still be titleless.

He didn't top the try scorers list in 2014. He was joint with Nemani Nadolo from the Crusaders funny thing about that is that Nadolo is a winger and Folau was also a winger, problem being they gave him the fullback role. See I never said he was a bad athlete, but actually look at his stats compared to other test level fullbacks; could he defuse bombs the way Liam Williams can? Nope. Was he good at scramble defence like Ben Smith, Leigh Halfpenny or Rob Kearney? Nope. Did he have any sort of kicking game for clearances inside the 22? No he did not.

The Waratahs won 2014 on the back of the best forward pack and Foley and Beale working as a near perfect 10 & 12 combination. Can't stand the Waratahs, but you're drinking the NewsCorp kool aid if you actually believe the Folau hype machine. Bloke was dismantled against every test team because of how simple his game was. Even Argentina in their worst period as a Test team shut him out of the game in 2018.

 

[ReddFelon]

Where the f**k do these French clubs get their money from?

Their TV deal is under half of the NRLs. I'm assuming some of that difference must be covered by money from the internationals, but It's still nuts.

Stade Francais' budget wasn't far off of Brisbane's, and they were comfortably the biggest spenders in the competition.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/top-14-budgets-2018-19-revealed-reports/

Is it all sugar daddies? What percentage of their revenues are sunk into wage bills?

All owned and operated by big business. Current President of Stade Francais has a net worth of $2.7 billion. Racing 92's owner is a billionaire Italian real estate mogul. The French clubs and the English clubs attract wealthy benefactors like flies and honey.

 

[reanimate]

He didn't top the try scorers list in 2014. He was joint with Nemani Nadolo from the Crusaders funny thing about that is that Nadolo is a winger and Folau was also a winger, problem being they gave him the fullback role. See I never said he was a bad athlete, but actually look at his stats compared to other test level fullbacks; could he defuse bombs the way Liam Williams can? Nope. Was he good at scramble defence like Ben Smith, Leigh Halfpenny or Rob Kearney? Nope. Did he have any sort of kicking game for clearances inside the 22? No he did not.

The Waratahs won 2014 on the back of the best forward pack and Foley and Beale working as a near perfect 10 & 12 combination. Can't stand the Waratahs, but you're drinking the NewsCorp kool aid if you actually believe the Folau hype machine. Bloke was dismantled against every test team because of how simple his game was. Even Argentina in their worst period as a Test team shut him out of the game in 2018.

Joint top is still top. I never said he was the best of any of those things, he did them all passably enough though to help the Tards to their first ever title, he definitely wasn’t the worst fullback in the sport.

The wallabies as a whole have been dismantled, they’re a pack of absolute plodders and they certainly haven’t gotten any better without Folau.

 

[Perth Red]

Where the f**k do these French clubs get their money from?

Their TV deal is under half of the NRLs. I'm assuming some of that difference must be covered by money from the internationals, but It's still nuts.

Stade Francais' budget wasn't far off of Brisbane's, and they were comfortably the biggest spenders in the competition.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/top-14-budgets-2018-19-revealed-reports/

Is it all sugar daddies? What percentage of their revenues are sunk into wage bills?

yeh all sugar daddies play things. The whole thing is built on a pack of cards.

managed to sit through about 10mins of the england game, what a crock of sht, how on earth that sport has become so big is a mystery to me!

 

[Mr Angry]

How does one contribute to this thug leaving?

He can f**k right off, dirty human being.

 

[Perth Red]

How does one contribute to this thug leaving?

He can f**k right off, dirty human being.

Haha, snowflake. That’s not thuggery, go watch some games from years gone by, that was thuggery!

 

[Mr Angry]

That coward would have never played back then.

Some of the dirtiest stuff I have seen on field, really weak stuff. Pushing blokes into fences stuff, weak human.

 

[Perth Red]

That coward would have never played back then.

Some of the dirtiest stuff I have seen on field, really weak stuff. Pushing blokes into fences stuff, weak human.

princess

 

[BadnMean]

It was more weird than really dirty.

Bit like my sex life.

 

[Homo man69]

Beale, O’Connor and Cooper could of had great careers in league. They would of most likely played origin. Yet they rot away in union. Playing for some team nobody knows about and being in a National team that is now below Japan in the world rankings.

 

[Homo man69]

Folau was shit at Rugby. He was one of the worst fullbacks in the sport (scoring tries doesn't make you a good player when your position is predominantly defensive). He had zero kicking game and no defense. You're effectively the prime example of a one-eyed leaguie who doesn't get the differences between the two games. Burgess selection for England was completely undeserved, such that the coach for England was fired and England dropped to the lowest ranking they'd ever had during that period.

You're mistaking Michael Cheika selecting duds for the quality of rugby players.

Slater was a great League fullback, in Rugby the fullback plays a completely different role. Inglis the same, Smith would play what role? Scrum half? It's not even slightly similar. Thurston would be a terrible #10, his size would be a complete detriment, but he also didn't have the right kicking game.

If league players were allowed to get picked during the union World Cup. Then Australia would win it every time. You say Thurston is to small? What about Larkham? Also the way Cam Smith plays is very very similar to a rugby 9. Also many many ex superstar union players now play league. The only reason the wallabies struggle is because League has the majority of the good players.

 

[myrrh ken]

Beale, O’Connor and Cooper could of had great careers in league. They would of most likely played origin. Yet they rot away in union. Playing for some team nobody knows about and being in a National team that is now below Japan in the world rankings.

They would need to learn how tackle

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

Beale, O’Connor and Cooper could of had great careers in league. They would of most likely played origin. Yet they rot away in union. Playing for some team nobody knows about and being in a National team that is now below Japan in the world rankings.

Beale would have had a great career for the Newtown Jets, O'Connor for Redcliffe Dolphins and Cooper for Burleigh Bears, that would have been about it.

 

[The Rosco]

Where the f**k do these French clubs get their money from?

Their TV deal is under half of the NRLs. I'm assuming some of that difference must be covered by money from the internationals, but It's still nuts.

Stade Francais' budget wasn't far off of Brisbane's, and they were comfortably the biggest spenders in the competition.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/top-14-budgets-2018-19-revealed-reports/

Is it all sugar daddies? What percentage of their revenues are sunk into wage bills?

It's easy . . . the answer lies in the colours of their jerseys. Red, white and blue, oui ?

 

[adamkungl]

Pretty sad indictment of our game really. Play league and confined yourself to playing in 3 states and Auckland once a year or play union and see the world.

And get payed handsomely to do so. It’s a no-brainer as the yanks say.

As much as I agree with the general point about the opportunities our game doesn't offer, it's not really relevant here.

A bloke recruited from Rugby is enticed to play Rugby. Not a huge surprise and can't really blame him. This idea of loyalty to a code of professional sport only really exists in a few suburbs of Sydney and Yorkshire and Fijians certainly dont seem to buy into it.