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Parramatta Stadium Rebuild and other stuff

hindy111

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The big thing is it is a different demographic to Inner west. Lots of Arabic and Indian backgrounds in Parra area.
Harris Park is far more lively and where many go.
And also more people with less money to spend then around here where many are cashed up to their eye balls.
 

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Agreed.
That diversion to Sydney Central and then back out to Parramatta and WSIA is just stupid.
Just run it through Sydney Olympic Park or Parramatta.
My preference would be Sydney Olympic Park as there is far more clear space there to build the large station required than anywhere in Parramatta.
People can then transfer to the WS Metro and get to Parramatta in 6 minutes, and Hunter st in the city in 15 minutes.
It would save billions and billions of $$.

Stations are expensive, particularly when they are underground. Parramatta just doesn't have the space for one and honestly, nor does Central. Both stations are planned to be 4 platforms which means they will be huge. They need to be almost 3 football fields long as well.

If they really want to go through Central, don't bother going through Parramatta and WSIA.
Just go straight to Campbelltown and beyond and let the WS Metro do the rest of the work to Parra and WSIA.

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Having a HSR station at Camellia/Rose Hill would be ok. It just would need a metro station on the new west metro
Then you would be one stop to Parramatta via metro or LR - and only 20 minutes to the city the other way
 

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Having a HSR station at Camellia/Rose Hill would be ok. It just would need a metro station on the new west metro
Then you would be one stop to Parramatta via metro or LR - and only 20 minutes to the city the other way

A high speed rail stop at Camellia/Rose Hill won't work now.
The Metro West station in that location is dead in the water after Minn's attempt to sell Rosehill racecourse failed.
Tunnelling for the Metro West has now been completed from Westmead to Hunter st in the city.
 

T-Boon

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I say get the high-speed going to Parramatta and lock it in as the proper second city and increase its size.
Don't view it as you have to get off there to get to the city. Think of Parramatta as the city to be.
 

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A high speed rail stop at Camellia/Rose Hill won't work now.
The Metro West station in that location is dead in the water after Minn's attempt to sell Rosehill racecourse failed.
Tunnelling for the Metro West has now been completed from Westmead to Hunter st in the city.
sadly true - a missed opportunity I think for a major transport interchange on the fringe of Parramatta
 

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Ironically, I was in a Balmain pub on the weekend and a merkin was whinging about the Bays metro station being a white elephant. I said - surely they are going to develop all of those docks. Turns out I am a f**king genius.

 

Suitman

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Ironically, I was in a Balmain pub on the weekend and a merkin was whinging about the Bays metro station being a white elephant. I said - surely they are going to develop all of those docks. Turns out I am a f**king genius.


Great result for that area. It's a wasteland atm. This was a no brainer.
So close to the city and with a future metro station on its doorstep.
Minns may not have any future transport policies (which I despise), but his push to ease the housing crisis has been admirable.
Albeit it is mostly apartment living that will be easing the crisis, but that is just something that the next generation (including my kids) will have to accept, because that's all that will be affordable in this city for the majority.
These units won't be affordable for most, but the amount of high-rise going up throughout the suburbs will be.
There are dozens of suburbs currently or in the future providing stock.
 
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Singo to sell out of Entertainment Quarter as it prepares for revamp

Zoe Samios

veteran John Singleton is planning to sell his stake in Sydney’s Entertainment Quarter (EQ) as the sprawling precinct progresses with plans to build a 20,000-seat indoor arena.

Singleton and several high-profile business figures, including Gerry Harvey and Mark Carnegie paid $80 million in 2014 to lease the EQ until at least 2036.

The Moore Park Entertainment Quarter was leased by John Singleton and other high-profile businessmen for $80 million in 2014. Brook Mitchell

Singleton’s 10 per cent stake is expected to be sold to Oak View Group, an American entertainment company founded by businessman Tim Leiweke, according to sources with direct knowledge of the matter, who requested anonymity to speak publicly.

Leiweke was pardoned by US President Donald Trump last December, after being indicted in July 2025. The indictment had accused Leiweke of conspiring with a competitor to rig the bidding process to develop the $US375 million ($535 million) Moody Centre, a 15,000-seat arena at the University of Texas at Austin, which hosts music and sports events.

Singleton confirmed his plans to sell out. “[The EQ] can’t work in our lifetime,” the 84-year-old said. The John Singleton Group declined to comment further.

How much Singleton plans to sell his position for is unclear. The consortium, known as Carsingha Investments, paid $80 million for a long-term lease, valuing Singleton’s stake at about $8 million.

Other directors of Carsingha include Harvey Norman chief executive Katie Page, billionaire investor Robert Whyte, former Mirvac chief executive Greg Paramor and philanthropist Penny Mapp.

John Singleton purchased the lease to the Entertainment Quarter with fellow businessmen Gerry Harvey and Mark Carnegie in 2014. Sam Mooy

Harvey owns about 20 per cent, while Carnegie and Whyte own about 10 per cent each.

When the group purchased the lease in 2014, they believed there was a major opportunity to upgrade the retail and entertainment area.

“There is about 26,000 square metres that can be redeveloped, and we will look at all options, including a hotel, pubs, serviced apartments and an updated retail sector,” Harvey said in 2014. The EQ has since revamped some of its food and beverage offerings, but plans for a major refurbishment never eventuated.

In 2019, Carsingha lodged an unsolicited $2 billion proposal to redevelop the site that involved the creation of office towers, a luxury hotel and a small music venue. It withdrew those plans in 2022 when new legislation – the Greater Sydney Parklands Trust Act – meant any new lease would go to open tender.

When NSW Premier Chris Minns took office in 2023, the focus shifted to a redevelopment that would benefit the creative and music scene. In late 2024 the government secured a “conditional break clause” from Carsingha, which allowed it to go to open tender for a potential developer.

The NSW government issued that tender in October, calling for more entertainment and creative spaces, including a 15,000- to 20,000-seat arena as part of a new 99-year lease. It said it was open to special purpose accommodation for students or employees of film, television and creative industries.

Carsingha is one of at least two parties competing for a new 99-year lease – the other is reportedly Plenary Group. If a better bid comes along, Carsingha can be bought out of its current lease.

The redevelopment is happening alongside the conversion of 20 hectares of nearby Moore Park Golf Course land, which is due to start later this year.

The expected purchase of Singleton’s stake by Oak View Group is significant because it points to the long-term ambitions of the precinct’s current leaseholders.

The potential suitor OVG has had a longstanding relationship with live entertainment company Live Nation, the owner of Ticketmaster.

Leiweke and his daughter Francesca, the former COO of Oak View Group, toured the Entertainment Quarter last year, but discussions about the sale were put on pause because of the US indictment.

Oak View Group did not respond to a request for comment.

 

Suitman

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Lol.

The RTBU rep blaming "European wiring" for fires on Sydney trams.
Maybe it's just a maintenance issue dopey.

I don't see trams going up in flames all over Europe. FFS.

 
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Lol.

The RTBU rep blaming "European wiring" for fires on Sydney trams.
Maybe it's just a maintenance issue dopey.

I don't see trams going up in flames all over Europe. FFS.

Thank f**k the RBTU are calling out three fires on the light rail in the past fortnight(?).

Someone's got to try and hold things - including maintenance contracts with the responsible (private?) operators - to account, instead of sweep it under the carpet!

But yes, these things are all eith NSW Labor or the union movement's fault...
#suity101
 

hindy111

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The trains they got about 10yrs ago are bits of junk. I know friends who were working on fixing majority them. Rusted and needing major works to repair before they even went into use. Kept hush hush as best they could from public.
 

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Crazy, they can't force them to fund repairs for sinkholes and faults.

NSW Govt came up with fixed price contracts to avoid extras, but underground unseen faults and sink holes are not something a contractor can allow for in their submission.
 

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Anybody tried to get to Lithgow from Sydney since they closed Victoria Pass? That must be a shit fight playing with the trucks and other traffic along Bells Line of Rd into Lithgow. All it took was a 190 yo convict built bridge to throw in the towel. Who'd have seen that coming?
 
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