‘He’s a coward’: Spud declares war on Gal

[myrrh ken]

It’s only suspicious if you believe there may have been an ulterior motive. So far the best anyone has come up with is They did it then to get more publicity. That sounds very unlikely. ASADA don’t need ratings lol

Every government investigative agency needs publicity as it helps with funding

 

[betcats]

Who's doing that then?

Read the thread, Carch doesnt think there can be any other explanation. Gal already announced ASADA have no credibility in his sad little rant.

 

[carcharias]

Read the thread, Carch doesnt think there can be any other explanation. Gal already announced ASADA have no credibility in his sad little rant.

Ha
f**kin bullshyte.
I’ve never once said there is no other explanation.
They haven’t given any explanation at all.
They could say they were investigating associates of his and that’s why it took 6 months.
Instead “Ings” offered Bushfires as a possible excuse.
Bwhahaha
Was the lab in Cobargo?

 

[nick87]

Talk about conspiracies. Neither proven.

Gallen got done for "Unknowingly and unwittingly". You need intent to cheat.

Neither proven?
The sharks were fined heavily for their cap breaches. They had illegally paid player/s outside of the rules and regulations of the cap. They cheated.
Paul Gallen accepted his guilt in taking a banned performance enhancing drug. He's a drug cheat.

Have you been living under a f**king rock for the last 5 years? The f**k are you talking about. Both those statements you responded to are cold, hard facts.

 

[myrrh ken]

I missed where we got done for cheating in 2016. A Paul Khent classic that one.

I get that your best chance at a premiership was probably that year, but lets just stick to the cold hard facts hey?

 

[Quicksilver]

Neither proven?
The sharks were fined heavily for their cap breaches. They had illegally paid player/s outside of the rules and regulations of the cap. They cheated.
Paul Gallen accepted his guilt in taking a banned performance enhancing drug. He's a drug cheat.

Have you been living under a f**king rock for the last 5 years? The f**k are you talking about. Both those statements you responded to are cold, hard facts.

Here's Mr Daily Telegraph Headline Reader.

A tabloid giant.

They were under the cap in 2016.

Gallen was charged with "unknowingly and unwittingly".

Theses are the actual facts little man, as much as you don't like them- they are.

PS. I actually don't even like Paul Gallen very much.

 

[Quicksilver]

Funny that the people accusing Sharks' fans of strange conspiracy theories are the ones that are refusing to acknowledge the findings of official investigations.

 

[Quicksilver]

Isn't it ironic,

Don't ya think?

 

[Quicksilver]

On another note, what ever happened with this? Is this still being investigated?

Have they closed the case?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09...o-nrl-drugs-saga-after-hgh-allegation/4981518

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/s...ug-dealer-ng-6d8abed4b9a18a0562e359a4ec9a467a

 

[myrrh ken]

On another note, what ever happened with this? Is this still being investigated?

Have they closed the case?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09...o-nrl-drugs-saga-after-hgh-allegation/4981518

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/s...ug-dealer-ng-6d8abed4b9a18a0562e359a4ec9a467a

Haha, the 2 players that introduced the company to the rest of the team? Martin Kennedy and Sandor Earl.

 

[Fangs]

It is now abundantly clear after reading this thread that we must strip the Sharks of their 2016 premiership.

 

[BadnMean]

Neither proven?
The sharks were fined heavily for their cap breaches. They had illegally paid player/s outside of the rules and regulations of the cap. They cheated.
Paul Gallen accepted his guilt in taking a banned performance enhancing drug. He's a drug cheat.

Have you been living under a f**king rock for the last 5 years? The f**k are you talking about. Both those statements you responded to are cold, hard facts.

You forgot the part about how ex players know everything about drug testing- but Gallen & the Sharks players allowed a moral escape clause about drug cheating because they just took what they were given & didn't ask/know about it.

But if they had listened to even the first 3 minutes of their drug education classes they'd have learned it is -always- the athletes responsibility for what goes into their body or is found in a test... In fact they can look any substance up themselves from the banned database at ASADA website in about 2 clicks...

So which one is it? EIther Gallen cheated knowingly, on purpose, or most ex players are maybe not doping violation authorities?

 

[Quicksilver]

It is now abundantly clear after reading this thread that we must strip the Sharks of their 2016 premiership.

Agree, that was the best party of my life. I'd love to do it again.

 

[Quicksilver]

You forgot the part about how ex players know everything about drug testing- but Gallen & the Sharks players allowed a moral escape clause about drug cheating because they just took what they were given & didn't ask/know about it.

But if they had listened to even the first 3 minutes of their drug education classes they'd have learned it is -always- the athletes responsibility for what goes into their body or is found in a test... In fact they can look any substance up themselves from the banned database at ASADA website in about 2 clicks...

So which one is it? EIther Gallen cheated knowingly, on purpose, or most ex players are maybe not doping violation authorities?

They did ask, apparently. See Frank Discussion's earlier post.

 

[nick87]

Here's Mr Daily Telegraph Headline Reader.

A tabloid giant.

They were under the cap in 2016.

Gallen was charged with "unknowingly and unwittingly".

Theses are the actual facts little man, as much as you don't like them- they are.

PS. I actually don't even like Paul Gallen very much.

They were under in 2016? Congrats.

They were fined heavily and forced to operate on a reduced salary cap for 2019 and 2020, because of breaches dating back to 2013. They cheated the cap.
https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/03/01...-the-cronulla-sharks-and-wests-tigers-undone/

Gallen accepted a deal, i.e accepted his guilt, from ASADA that he took a banned substance. If you want to hang your hat on "unknowingly and unwittingly" that's your business. I couldnt careless or give a shit. He was banned by ASADA for taking a banned performance enhancing substance. He cheated.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/aug/22/paul-gallen-accepts-doping-ban-cronulla-team-mates

Those are the facts, little man. You can bury your head in the sand all you like. That wont change.

 

[carcharias]

You forgot the part about how ex players know everything about drug testing- but Gallen & the Sharks players allowed a moral escape clause about drug cheating because they just took what they were given & didn't ask/know about it.

But if they had listened to even the first 3 minutes of their drug education classes they'd have learned it is -always- the athletes responsibility for what goes into their body or is found in a test... In fact they can look any substance up themselves from the banned database at ASADA website in about 2 clicks...

So which one is it? EIther Gallen cheated knowingly, on purpose, or most ex players are maybe not doping violation authorities?

you are very confused.
Gallen wasn’t an ex played at the time.
The peptides were not on any the official ASADA banned list.
They also weren’t on the official legal list either.
It was a massive mistake.
They all paid the penalty.
Nobody said the players current or ex know everything about drug testing.
So that part is another lie.

Deny it all you like but Gallen has probably learnt more about drugs in sport than the average person.
As a commentator he can definitely speak through experience.

 

[Quicksilver]

They were under in 2016? Congrats.

They were fined heavily and forced to operate on a reduced salary cap for 2019 and 2020, because of breaches dating back to 2013. They cheated the cap.
https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/03/01...-the-cronulla-sharks-and-wests-tigers-undone/

Gallen accepted a deal, i.e accepted his guilt, from ASADA that he took a banned substance. If you want to hang your hat on "unknowingly and unwittingly" that's your business. I couldnt careless or give a shit. He was banned by ASADA for taking a banned performance enhancing substance. He cheated.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/aug/22/paul-gallen-accepts-doping-ban-cronulla-team-mates

Those are the facts, little man. You can bury your head in the sand all you like. That wont change.

Well there you go, your source says 2016 isn't tainted. So I'm correct, based on the original claim I was responding to.

Hanging my hat on unknowingly and unwittingly isn't just my business, it's the official record champ. You're the one straying from reality to make an untrue point. You know what? You're trying to cheat in an argument. Shame on you.

 

[nick87]

Yes, shame on me for presenting the facts. I apologise for that.

Enjoy the rest of your day, i hope one day you'll be able to come to terms with the history of your club and Paul Gallen.

 

[Quicksilver]

Yes, shame on me for presenting the facts. I apologise for that.

Enjoy the rest of your day, i hope one day you'll be able to come to terms with the history of your club and Paul Gallen.

You've failed to acknowledge facts.

I have come to terms with the history of my club and Paul Gallen.

Gallen is a flawed character. He has his many faults. I don't even particularly like him. But I can't pin this allegation on him based on what has been presented.

As for the club, MASSIVE management failings. That's what we have been punished for, and that is the truth. And it applies to numerous aspects of the business. The ASADA fall out has cost the club a bomb, and could have easily cost us the club. And it still could, because we are nowhere near as financially strong as we would have been if it didn't happen.

 

[Perth Red]

Well there you go, your source says 2016 isn't tainted. So I'm correct, based on the original claim I was responding to.

Hanging my hat on unknowingly and unwittingly isn't just my business, it's the official record champ. You're the one straying from reality to make an untrue point. You know what? You're trying to cheat in an argument. Shame on you.

Not strictly true though is it? They were found to have breached the cap rules but stayed under the cap level. So the system of cheating from 13-15 was going on in 2016 but because the amount being cheated hadnt pushed them over the total cap limit they got away with it.
I thought they got off very lightly, if NRl had wanted they could have enforced a penalty for 2016 based on the fact you had the cheating system in operation. Just be thankful that either you couldnt get the dodgy third party sponsors in place or your players salaries were under that year. Its the only thing that saved your title lol

"The NRL found breaches were existent in Cronulla’s premiership-winning year of 2016 but, as the club were playing under the salary cap in payments disclosed to the NRL, those promises did not take them above the league’s limit."
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...nder the,question on their 2016 premiership.”