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'13 | R14 | Fri | Dragons 16-22 Cowboys | WIN

Round 14: Dragons v Cowboys

  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    7
  • Poll closed .

Card Shark

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When prior was down with a cramp, with a couple if mins left, you could hear a dragons supporter screaming at him to get up and play. After he played the ball, the fan screams out PUSSY!! Haha brilliant. Best moment if the game

I heard the guy screaming, thought it was a teammate.

Funny
 

Hutty1986

Immortal
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Truly embarrassing "effort." Our season is gone. Still expect the same 17 in a fortnight, though.
 

Big Pete

Referee
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The circumstances of the Tate try need to be reviewed.

That's an 8 point try and a sin bin for professional foul. As is, as long as you don't perform a reportable offence, you can commit every crime under the book and nothing will come of it if the try is scored. It's a crock.

But that isn't the refs fault, it's just something Anderson needs to review. What was the refs fault was the non-penalty for the blatant push from Nightingale on Winterstein. That could have cost the Cowboys the game. As it stands, they showed plenty of backbone and truly deserved the 2 points.
 

Firey_Dragon

Coach
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The circumstances of the Tate try need to be reviewed.

That's an 8 point try and a sin bin for professional foul. As is, as long as you don't perform a reportable offence, you can commit every crime under the book and nothing will come of it if the try is scored. It's a crock.

But that isn't the refs fault, it's just something Anderson needs to review. What was the refs fault was the non-penalty for the blatant push from Nightingale on Winterstein. That could have cost the Cowboys the game. As it stands, they showed plenty of backbone and truly deserved the 2 points.

I suggest you look at the rule book. Could certainly be a sin bin, but it's not an 8 point try. An 8 point try is awarded if there is foul play during or after the try has been scored. There could certainly be a professional foul in there, which is a resulting sin bin, but advantage played and try scored, or a penalty given at the spot of the incident.
 

Big Pete

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I know which is why I believe those rules should be reviewed.

If an infringement like a professional foul occurs during a try scoring play then the full penalty should still apply.

Which is a sin bin and a penalty.
 

Firey_Dragon

Coach
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I know which is why I believe those rules should be reviewed.

If an infringement like a professional foul occurs during a try scoring play then the full penalty should still apply.

Which is a sin bin and a penalty.

So basically what you're suggesting is the removal of 'advantage' in any penalties? Dugan should have got time in the bin, no doubt about it. But you can't give points, then go back to the spot and award additional points. You either get the advantage played on or not. It wasn't foul play after the try was scored.

If a ball is raked out, but the ref plays on, and it results in a try... Do you support an additional penalty for the initial infringement too?
 

Big Pete

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Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here, I'm referring to matters that relate to a professional foul.

I know it's a hardline approach and most would rather a compromise but I feel as if you're good enough to score a try despite being infringed the opposition should be dealt with the maximum penalty.

Where we can both agree is that the rules protected Dugan and it isn't right that the try was treated like it was any other regular try.
 

Firey_Dragon

Coach
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Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here, I'm referring to matters that relate to a professional foul.

I know it's a hardline approach and most would rather a compromise but I feel as if you're good enough to score a try despite being infringed the opposition should be dealt with the maximum penalty.

Where we can both agree is that the rules protected Dugan and it isn't right that the try was treated like it was any other regular try.

The rules didn't protect Dugan, weak refereeing did. He should have been binned. The contact itself wasn't 'illegal' though, it was late, constituting a professional foul which he could have been binned for... I'm not quite sure what you wanted from it... A binning plus an 8-point try? The ref's had every right to bin him, but elected not to.

I personally think a try being scored and a binning would constitute as a 'maximum penalty' as almost always a binning facilitates at least one more additional try scored against the infringing team.

Either way, the refereeing was weak in this instance, but I don't believe the rules need to be changed.
 

Big Pete

Referee
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Maybe you're right, a situation like this is rare after all but I have the impression a similar circumstance occurred in the past and the punishment was the same. It leads me to believe the rules need clarifying.

Either way, I want reassurance that a similar incident down the line will at least receive some form of punishment because it was wrong how Dugan went unpunished.
 

thommo4pm

Coach
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Maybe you're right, a situation like this is rare after all but I have the impression a similar circumstance occurred in the past and the punishment was the same. It leads me to believe the rules need clarifying.

Either way, I want reassurance that a similar incident down the line will at least receive some form of punishment because it was wrong how Dugan went unpunished.

Do you really think Dugan went unpunished?
Have you seen the blokes he is playing with and the F*ckwit of a coach he has to listen to each week.
Surely that is punishment enough.
 

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