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'14 // R12 // Sun // Warriors 38-18 Knights // Mt Smart

Round 12: Warriors v Knights

  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    9
  • Poll closed .

Swarzey

Bench
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Yeah, just a slice of luck is all that's missing

:oops:

Ref doesn't pick up an obvious head high that eventually leads to a try that changed the momentum of the game. That's a good case of zero luck, isn't it? Or Mason making a tackle and inadvertently hitting the ball, gifting them another set. Oh, but I guess they're not cases of bad luck huh?

Pull your head out. I don't think I need to mention the ownership crisis or McKinnon's injury to state my case, do I?

f**king idiot.
 

mozza91

Coach
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They tried hard but just aren't good enough. Stupid errors at the wrong end of the field were costly.

Well done to the Warriors they are a seriously good football team. Tomkins was great today. If they can keep playing like that then they're a genuine contender. Probably the best side we've played this year.
 
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wibble

Bench
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Not often a team completes over 80% and gets beaten by 20. Certainly not a fair reflection on the game as it was far closer than the final score indicates.

The Knights just ended up doing what the Warriors have done to themselves too often in the past and shot themselves in the foot at crucial stages. The try right on halftime and the Houston fluff were crucial as they only made it 28-18. Warriors got good field position after that due to the Knights playing catch up. In a closer game they probably play a bit smarter.

Bad luck Knights, it's just going to be one of those years for you guys.

Yeah, the Knights did plenty right in this game.

But to kick out on the full just before half time, on a nothing play, with scores close, and then not be able to defend, just sums up their lack of crucial competitiveness this year (same with my team, doing dumb things at the wrong time, undoing 20 minutes of good football with 2 minutes of terrible football).

I'm not facing reality maybe, but neither the Knights or Sharks look bad enough to me to be wooden spoon teams (certainly not top 8, but no luck with key injuries for either team, it seams unfair to me that they are last), yet it is not really the 65 minutes of solid football they play each week that has them last (equal), but the 15 minutes of mind boggling crud.

Raiders seem more meh, for the whole game, without the terrible patches (defense on the line a real issue for all 3 teams though).

Warriors played some good moments, but really took advantage when the Knights were terrible. Townsend seems much improved, good on him (always takes a while in top grade for halves, maybe he is turning into a first grader, which I doubted he could be, glad if I'm wrong).

Need a few more 20 point losses from you Knights though, to keep us away from the spoon (on differential, yay! that would be quite an achievement, avoiding the spoon on differential...)
 

nick87

Coach
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Ref doesn't pick up an obvious head high that eventually leads to a try that changed the momentum of the game. That's a good case of zero luck, isn't it? Or Mason making a tackle and inadvertently hitting the ball, gifting them another set. Oh, but I guess they're not cases of bad luck huh?

Pull your head out. I don't think I need to mention the ownership crisis or McKinnon's injury to state my case, do I?

f**king idiot.

keep your fingers and toes cross mate, and premierships will come
Jesus wept :lol:

Here's a tip from a bloke who happens to know a little bit about having a shit squad... you've got a shit squad. No amount of luck will change the fact half your squad is rubbish.
 

Fufu Andronez

First Grade
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Very happy with the win, glad we won and I'm not sure you can blame the win on a lack of luck for the knights. It's not bad luck if you get outplayed. We did pretty well when it mattered. Things will get better for the knights though, they never folded and with Wayne Bennett hanging around anything is possible
 

Juju

Juniors
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1,712
The Knights team this year seriously reminds me of the Warriors of 09.
Confidence shattered by personal tragedy.

Score line was very flattering for the Warriors.

Watching the game live - man Darius doesn't try hard at all does he.
 

Swarzey

Bench
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keep your fingers and toes cross mate, and premierships will come
Jesus wept :lol:

Here's a tip from a bloke who happens to know a little bit about having a shit squad... you've got a shit squad. No amount of luck will change the fact half your squad is rubbish.

No doubt we have a shit squad, not denying that, but a lack of luck in almost every aspect of the game has been quite detrimental to our season. Game vs Manly is another example of luck not going our way. McManus rarely drops it and the bounce for the Taufua try. However, it's good enough to at least be competitive. We actually looked good when Gidley was off the field. Week in and week out, the combination of things going wrong with an incompetent hooker, a pea heart full back and a useless hack in Houston are costing us results.

I don't believe we made the Prelims purely on emotion. You can put it down to whatever you want, but the squad that we have today is good enough to at least not worry about the spoon. Now the Raiders, there's a team that should be battling for the spoon based on squad.
 

vvvrulz

Coach
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Full credit to the Knights.

That was 80 minutes of solid tough football and they made us really work for it.
Take out a few dumb errors at crucial times and it would have been right down to the wire.
 

nick87

Coach
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No doubt we have a shit squad, not denying that, but a lack of luck in almost every aspect of the game has been quite detrimental to our season. Game vs Manly is another example of luck not going our way. McManus rarely drops it and the bounce for the Taufua try. However, it's good enough to at least be competitive. We actually looked good when Gidley was off the field. Week in and week out, the combination of things going wrong with an incompetent hooker, a pea heart full back and a useless hack in Houston are costing us results.

I don't believe we made the Prelims purely on emotion. You can put it down to whatever you want, but the squad that we have today is good enough to at least not worry about the spoon. Now the Raiders, there's a team that should be battling for the spoon based on squad.


What ever you think you need to do to sleep at night, do it.
I have a complete understanding of where my team's squad is at, you continue to live in denial

That 3 week run at the end of last year papered over some HUGE cracks. The Knights team just simply is not good enough. Their best forward is Cuthbertson ffs :lol:

You have the dumbest footballer in the competition at centre spot, a guy who simply can not defend at the other. You fullback has precisely ZERO f**ks to give. Mullen falls apart every time he doesnt get picked for Origin. Gidley is, well, Gidley.

You can piss and moan about luck all you like, its amazing how often shit sides get bad luck. Trust me, i've seen plenty of "bad luck" in my years as a Raiders fan.

At the end of the day, you are either good enough, or you aren't. And much like my team, yours isn't close to being good enough.

But hey, you keep harping on about "luck". I'm sure you're due some soon and it will ALLLL be alright :lol:
 

Swarzey

Bench
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What ever you think you need to do to sleep at night, do it.
I have a complete understanding of where my team's squad is at, you continue to live in denial

That 3 week run at the end of last year papered over some HUGE cracks. The Knights team just simply is not good enough. Their best forward is Cuthbertson ffs :lol:

You have the dumbest footballer in the competition at centre spot, a guy who simply can not defend at the other. You fullback has precisely ZERO f**ks to give. Mullen falls apart every time he doesnt get picked for Origin. Gidley is, well, Gidley.

You can piss and moan about luck all you like, its amazing how often shit sides get bad luck. Trust me, i've seen plenty of "bad luck" in my years as a Raiders fan.

At the end of the day, you are either good enough, or you aren't. And much like my team, yours isn't close to being good enough.

But hey, you keep harping on about "luck". I'm sure you're due some soon and it will ALLLL be alright :lol:

It amazes me how delusional you can become at times. Even worse is that you like to pretend you're actually right on particular issues. It's clear that pretty much all your points on the issues at Newcastle are complete exaggerations. Even better when you begin making shit up :lol:

The fact in the first part you assume I'm living in denial about the squad in Newcastle proves you're simply a waste of time. That said, if your dribble makes you feel better and give you some sort of confidence in your opinions, then I'm not exactly going to get in the way.

I stand by that we've had shit luck on and off the field, that isn't going to change. I feel some defeats have been decided upon shit luck, things just not going our way or getting the calls we deserve.
 

nick87

Coach
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Nothing to refute a single point made. Nothing. :lol:
It's not as if im saying anything revolutionary either, it's basically the same shit i read from Knights fans! They can see it.

But you think the only thing standing between the knights and success is a bit of luck?
And I'm the delusional one? :lol:

Toot on, Swarzey... Just the bounce of the ball son, and your two wins could easily turn into 3! That'll solve your problems :lol:
 

KeepingTheFaith

Referee
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A lot of teams can look at their losses and say the same thing, but when dumb play is thrown on top of bad luck it's not going to be a good outcome. Knights were good for 90% of the game, but that last 10% was atrocious. Luck wasn't going to fix that.
 

Swarzey

Bench
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LOL. Please, where have I said that standing between the Knights and success is luck? No idiot, right now the benefit of a bit of luck means another two points and having some confidence in the team. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if your definition of success IS two points, but that isn't mine.

And again, there's no point refuting any points you made because they're complete exaggerations made from whatever issue you have with the club and/or it's fans. It's like arguing with Souths fans that they're monumental failures, they're not going to fold at any point and I've dealt with you enough to know that you won't either.
 

nick87

Coach
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Yep, tactical retreat is probably the best result you can hope for here.
Keep those fingers and toes crossed, Swarzey.

You remind me of this quote from Ralph Emerson:
“Shallow men believe in luck or in circumstance. Strong men believe in cause and effect.”
 

Swarzey

Bench
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If anyone is retreating, it's you mate :lol:

But bravo for sticking to your guns. It takes a brave man to be able to stand by his ideas, even if they're completely out of touch with reality...or you're just f**king stupid...the latter probably.
 

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