14 Team SL and Merged Championship?

[BODISGOD]

ERL:
Manchester
Leeds
Liverpool
Birmingham
York
Sheffield
London
Newcastle
Toulouse
Catalans

They have twice the money to spend a buy all the best players, some even from Union..

AN NRL LEVEL COMP..

Nobody's going to watch?
I strongly disagree.

This is a fantasy and the NRL won't fund it.

Come on ffs, the NRL are only now going to Perth.

Just saying "double the tv deal" does not make it so.

 

[Pippen94]

What's the 10 the NRL wants though and what's the structure?

It's been reported a thousand times (although never officially stated by NRL) 2xhull, st Helens, Wigan, Warrington, Leeds, Catalans, Toulouse, London, Manchester.

 

[Pippen94]

10 either meant a significant drop in Super League games, down from 162 to 90 if you go off of a straight home and away schedule or you keep loop fixtures and only lose 27 games but that way you keep loop fixtures, which this country has decided is the devil despite having an unbalanced fixture list for over 100 years.

Dropping to 18 weekly rounds would have meant a loss of 4 home games for sides, so you’d have a pretty big loss of income from clubs, so they almost certainly would never vote for cutting their income so significantly. You’d then have to start looking at how you keep those other 4 home games and that would mean creation of new tournaments or fiddling with the Challenge Cup schedule to include more fixtures probably in the form of group games. We have scrapped many tournaments over the years and I’m not sure we have the sponsorship relationships or finances to put up financial rewards for those to be resurrected or new ones to be created.

Or we could have just kept loop fixtures but they’re not particularly popular and people moan incessantly. We could have had all 10 playing each other 3 times (27 games) or a split in the table after R18 where the top 5 play each other home and away and the same with the bottom 5 (26 game) but we’ve done similar in the past and the mass saturation of certain games took away the suspense, novelty and, in all honesty, watered down rivalries and it proved unpopular.

I would have been interested to see how the NRL saw a 10 team league going and what they wanted to do for a fixture list but I don’t think we’ll ever find out now thanks to the return of Nigel Wood.

I do think 12 is the best number we can use but requires a change in the Challenge Cup, which is on its arse as a competition too. All 12 playing each other home and away (22 games) and then a group stage of the Challenge Cup to make up the 2 additional fixtures.

Drop in games to accommodate internationals. Obviously to expand over time. Remember, dolphins, bears and PNG have presence in either NSW or Qld cup. Lower tier European teams with population and money have potential to be promoted.

 

[Pippen94]

These people who already support a team aren’t going to support some zombie Manchester team that restricts their existence. They’ve got their team, they’re mostly happy with that and will continue to support their team. You won’t get some sort of mass support from Manchester just because there is a club called Manchester, people aren’t refusing to watch rugby league because there isn’t a team called Manchester.

It’s an idea that’s been mooted every so often with Cumbria, that the three Cumbrian sides of Barrow, Whitehaven and Workington have a senior club above them that they feed into but for the reasons above and because Barrow isn’t that close to the other two, it’s a non-starter of an idea.

Worked for Catalans

 

[Pippen94]

10 is a sht number, How boring will a ten team comp be? Not to mention loss of tv viewers from 4 clubs. Genius!

Nobody would miss Castleford, Salford and Huddersfield

 

[siv]

Go to 16 teams

With 2 must be in London and 1 in South Wales

 

[Taking The Two]

Drop in games to accommodate internationals. Obviously to expand over time. Remember, dolphins, bears and PNG have presence in either NSW or Qld cup. Lower tier European teams with population and money have potential to be promoted.

Yet, the NRL was at 192 games last year. They sure as shit aren’t dropping games from their lucrative and profitable competition to play internationals

Worked for Catalans

Again, a totally different sporting aspect to England and Australia. One example in 130 years of rugby league is very Nigel Wood of you.

 

[Pippen94]

Yet, the NRL was at 192 games last year. They sure as shit aren’t dropping games from their lucrative and profitable competition to play internationals




Again, a totally different sporting aspect to England and Australia. One example in 130 years of rugby league is very Nigel Wood of you.

Lol, I guess there's no helping superleague then

 

[BODISGOD]

It's been reported a thousand times (although never officially stated by NRL) 2xhull, st Helens, Wigan, Warrington, Leeds, Catalans, Toulouse, London, Manchester.

So the NRL are going to fund 3 virtual expansion teams and also continue to bear the cost of the Catalans lack of tv money generation?

This when they are only just expanding by 2 teams themselves (one helped a lot by Government money)?

Get off the stage.

 

[Pippen94]

So the NRL are going to fund 3 virtual expansion teams and also continue to bear the cost of the Catalans lack of tv money generation?

This when they are only just expanding by 2 teams themselves (one helped a lot by Government money)?

Get off the stage.

Maybe superleague can bail out NRL?!

 

[BODISGOD]

Maybe superleague can bail out NRL?!

Weak response. Your contention is the NRL can come in and take things over, so that's the responsibility.

Please also elaborate on the structure of the season.

 

[Pippen94]

Weak response. Your contention is the NRL can come in and take things over, so that's the responsibility.

Please also elaborate on the structure of the season.

Nigel Wood is running things now. NRL can't do better than that?!

 

[Taking The Two]

So the NRL are going to fund 3 virtual expansion teams and also continue to bear the cost of the Catalans lack of tv money generation?

This when they are only just expanding by 2 teams themselves (one helped a lot by Government money)?

Get off the stage.

In fairness the rumours in the UK at the start of the year were that the 10 was Wigan, St Helens, Warrington, Leeds, Hull, Hull KR, Catalans, Toulouse and London from memory. It was said they were big fans of France and wanted a London presence, which matched the purchase of London by NRL clubs.

 

[Perth Red]

In fairness the rumours in the UK at the start of the year were that the 10 was Wigan, St Helens, Warrington, Leeds, Hull, Hull KR, Catalans, Toulouse and London from memory. It was said they were big fans of France and wanted a London presence, which matched the purchase of London by NRL clubs.

lol, NRl wouldn't have even expanded now if the WA govt and Aus Govt hadn't thrown hundreds of millions at them. Yet some on here think they are going to put $8-10mill per club a year for 10-20 years into clubs into English cities where people have barely heard of RL let alone have an interest in watching it. Its some serious delusional belief systems at play!

 

[Taking The Two]

lol, NRl wouldn't have even expanded now if the WA govt and Aus Govt hadn't thrown hundreds of millions at them. Yet some on here think they are going to put $8-10mill per club a year for 10-20 years into clubs into English cities where people have barely heard of RL let alone have an interest in watching it. It’s some serious delusional belief systems at play!

Interestingly, nobody is throwing around financial figures apart from you.

Imagine throwing your own money at a place where nobody plays rugby league and it has zero benefit to you. That’s a masterstroke getting someone else to finance a WA venture.

 

[Pippen94]

lol, NRl wouldn't have even expanded now if the WA govt and Aus Govt hadn't thrown hundreds of millions at them. Yet some on here think they are going to put $8-10mill per club a year for 10-20 years into clubs into English cities where people have barely heard of RL let alone have an interest in watching it. Its some serious delusional belief systems at play!

They'll be looking for investors and using broadcast rights to pay grant to clubs. London is only non traditional city, but even that place has had league played there as long as any. NRL won't be establishing and funding expansion clubs.

 

[Pippen94]

In fairness the rumours in the UK at the start of the year were that the 10 was Wigan, St Helens, Warrington, Leeds, Hull, Hull KR, Catalans, Toulouse and London from memory. It was said they were big fans of France and wanted a London presence, which matched the purchase of London by NRL clubs.

Everybody knows the teams rumoured to be in NRL Europe. That poster is just looking to yank chain..

 

[Taking The Two]

State of that.

 

[Taking The Two]

Sky TV ratings up, ground improvements ongoing, clubs getting better at matchday experience and some clubs really honing in on things like pathways and development.

But hey, we definitely needed Nigel Wood back.

 

[BODISGOD]

In fairness the rumours in the UK at the start of the year were that the 10 was Wigan, St Helens, Warrington, Leeds, Hull, Hull KR, Catalans, Toulouse and London from memory. It was said they were big fans of France and wanted a London presence, which matched the purchase of London by NRL clubs.

Wait until it gets to Due Diligence. It's all very easy to open a map and say you want X or Y, then you have to figure out how to fund it.

Ask yourself why the NRL have waited nearly 30 years to expand to a non core market like Perth?