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18th club, whose next?

BuffaloRules

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Nope. Just pointing out why the RLPA would have completely different opinions about playing a single game there vs living there for an entire year.

There were two parts I was addressing … the ground improvements and the compound construction

Go back and read it again
 

Maximus

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The process was open to everybody though wasnt it? I don’t believe QLD areas were excluded

Correct. So if QLD areas were excluded from the start, as you said, what's the point in even wasting their time and money. Added to the whole "name your price" licence fee, it was a shitshow.
 

The Great Dane

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Newtown’s hopes of a top-flight rugby league revival have been dashed after the NRL not only knocked back the Jets bid, but the rest of the expansion hopefuls.
It is understood that eight bid parties were told that their submissions had been rejected by the NRL. The governing body still maintains it hopes to expand the competition to 20 teams, but it seems the process may take longer than the game had hoped.

It can be revealed that three bids came from New Zealand’s South Island, while there were two from Brisbane and another from Central Queensland.

A team based out of Fiji were also considered, while Western Australia had its bid rejected earlier this month.

Discussions between the NRL and the Western Australian government are continuing in the hope the Western Bears can be resurrected and become the game’s 18th team.

It will be announced as soon as next month that PNG will be part of an expanded competition, but they will not enter the NRL until 2028.

The Newtown Jet’s dream of a return to top-flight rugby league have been crushed … for now. Picture: David Swift

The Newtown Jet’s dream of a return to top-flight rugby league have been crushed … for now. Picture: David Swift
Perth may still come in a year earlier if the NRL can find a way to get that bid back on track. The NRL felt the eight bid parties did not make a strong enough business case to be granted a license. The NRL also hold reservations about issuing a new franchise to private owners.

They may now explore the prospect of taking ownership of a new team with another team in Brisbane or a second New Zealand team the most likely outcome.

They hope to do the same with Western Australia – which would mirror that of the AFL and their ownership of the new Tasmanian team.

NRL boss Andrew Abdo insisted expansion was not dead.

“Expansion is an exciting priority for the game,” Abdo said.

“The (Australian Rugby League) Commission have made it clear that any expansion must have a strong business case that delivers value for all stakeholders.

“We are working on the right plan and model for every region. New Zealand, Western Australia, Queensland and PNG are strategic, vibrant and growing rugby league regions.

“At this stage, the bids submitted have not met the necessary threshold to be accepted. We continue to work to strengthen the case for any potential expansion.”

NRL CEO Andrew Abdo says expansion remains a priority, but admits the current bids fell short of the necessary threshold to be accepted. Picture: Justin Lloyd.

NRL CEO Andrew Abdo says expansion remains a priority, but admits the current bids fell short of the necessary threshold to be accepted. Picture: Justin Lloyd.
After flirting with Western Australia, Newtown entered a partnership with Ipswich – to be known simply as the Jets – but their bid was knocked back.

So too were the three New Zealand bids – including the South Island Kea run by former NRL boss David Moffett.

A team called the Southern Orcas were another putting their hands up for inclusion.

The latest rejection shapes as another blow to the Brisbane Firehawks, who were part of the bid process that led to the Dolphins being added to the competition in 2023.

The Firehawks are a financial juggernaut with cash reserves of $25 million, total assets of $57.4 million and equity of $52.4 million.

However, the NRL is believed to be reluctant to add another team in southeast Queensland given the presence of the Broncos, Dolphins and Gold Coast Titans.
The NRL's new standard for a "strong business case" is literally that the any new club must 100% pay for themselves from day one, be a break-even/profitable prospect from day one, and be willing to pay a significant licensing fee ($20mil+) to buy entry on top of that.

Given that it isn't a surprise that none of the bids could meet the standard the NRL require as, realistically, it's totally unachievable, and the only reason the NRL would adjust the standards so high is because they have no intention of expanding, or at least expanding through a traditional bidding process, and are trying to move the bids on without having to genuinely address the reasons as to why.

Given the talk around Perth it's likely that they're looking to move expansion in-house, which could be a good move in theory except for the fact that making the Bears involvement a non-negotiable prerequisite for a side in Perth makes the NRL's actual intentions as clear as day.

At this point the best outcome would be for expansion to be put on the backburner at least until there's a regime change. It's unfortunate, especially given the length of time they've mismanaged it, but that's the only way to prevent PVL from f**king it up any further.
 
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Red&BlackBear

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Newtown’s hopes of a top-flight rugby league revival have been dashed after the NRL not only knocked back the Jets bid, but the rest of the expansion hopefuls.
It is understood that eight bid parties were told that their submissions had been rejected by the NRL. The governing body still maintains it hopes to expand the competition to 20 teams, but it seems the process may take longer than the game had hoped.

It can be revealed that three bids came from New Zealand’s South Island, while there were two from Brisbane and another from Central Queensland.

A team based out of Fiji were also considered, while Western Australia had its bid rejected earlier this month.

Discussions between the NRL and the Western Australian government are continuing in the hope the Western Bears can be resurrected and become the game’s 18th team.

It will be announced as soon as next month that PNG will be part of an expanded competition, but they will not enter the NRL until 2028.

The Newtown Jet’s dream of a return to top-flight rugby league have been crushed … for now. Picture: David Swift

The Newtown Jet’s dream of a return to top-flight rugby league have been crushed … for now. Picture: David Swift
Perth may still come in a year earlier if the NRL can find a way to get that bid back on track. The NRL felt the eight bid parties did not make a strong enough business case to be granted a license. The NRL also hold reservations about issuing a new franchise to private owners.

They may now explore the prospect of taking ownership of a new team with another team in Brisbane or a second New Zealand team the most likely outcome.

They hope to do the same with Western Australia – which would mirror that of the AFL and their ownership of the new Tasmanian team.

NRL boss Andrew Abdo insisted expansion was not dead.

“Expansion is an exciting priority for the game,” Abdo said.

“The (Australian Rugby League) Commission have made it clear that any expansion must have a strong business case that delivers value for all stakeholders.

“We are working on the right plan and model for every region. New Zealand, Western Australia, Queensland and PNG are strategic, vibrant and growing rugby league regions.

“At this stage, the bids submitted have not met the necessary threshold to be accepted. We continue to work to strengthen the case for any potential expansion.”

NRL CEO Andrew Abdo says expansion remains a priority, but admits the current bids fell short of the necessary threshold to be accepted. Picture: Justin Lloyd.

NRL CEO Andrew Abdo says expansion remains a priority, but admits the current bids fell short of the necessary threshold to be accepted. Picture: Justin Lloyd.
After flirting with Western Australia, Newtown entered a partnership with Ipswich – to be known simply as the Jets – but their bid was knocked back.

So too were the three New Zealand bids – including the South Island Kea run by former NRL boss David Moffett.

A team called the Southern Orcas were another putting their hands up for inclusion.

The latest rejection shapes as another blow to the Brisbane Firehawks, who were part of the bid process that led to the Dolphins being added to the competition in 2023.

The Firehawks are a financial juggernaut with cash reserves of $25 million, total assets of $57.4 million and equity of $52.4 million.

However, the NRL is believed to be reluctant to add another team in southeast Queensland given the presence of the Broncos, Dolphins and Gold Coast Titans.

Revealed: Christchurch hopes for new NRL expansion team put on ice, after confidential letter from governing body
Michael Burgess
By Michael Burgess
Specialist Multimedia Sports Journalist·NZ Herald·
25 Oct, 2024 08:05 AM
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The dream of a second NRL team in New Zealand could be over.The Weekend Herald understands the NRL has called a halt on its expansion plans, with a confidential letter sent to all existing bid projects on Thursday. The proposed Papua New Guinea team is still likely to go ahead – possibly in 2028 – but plans to bring in two more clubs – and lift the NRL to a 20-strong competition – have been put on ice.In a statement to the Herald, the NRL said: ”At this stage, the bids submitted have not met the necessary threshold to be accepted.”There had been genuine hopes that a Christchurch franchise could feature alongside the Warriors as an expansion team in the future, given the ongoing popularity of the sport, the amount of elite talent produced from this country, the size of the market and the new Te Kaha stadium, which is set to open in 2026.

That led to two rival bids – the South Island NRL Team bid and the South Island Kea, who had both garnered significant corporate and community support and made considerable progress. The first bid – with ex-Kiwis and Warriors coach Frank Endacott as its president – was the frontrunner but they both appear to have reached the end of the road – at least for now.

Full details of the communication between the NRL and the various franchises this week are not available, with the NRL instructing all parties not to speak with media.

But the Weekend Herald can confirm the presence of the letter, which arrived as a blow to the local consortiums.

According to several sources, the key points made in the letter and subsequent communications were:
The NRL is pausing any expansion planning at this stage (aside from Papua New Guinea).

The door is not completely shut.
There has been pressure from existing NRL clubs, who are concerned about dilution of the talent base and the effect on the overall share of broadcast revenue.
The NRL will reconsider its approach and criteria for expansion, with some support for a community-based model.

The NRL also wants to focus on strategies for growing the game and building numbers, not just on professional football.

The NRL had previously stated objectives to achieve a 20-team competition, split into two conferences, at some point during the next five-year broadcast deal, which will begin in 2027.

It’s understood that scenario could still be on the table but there are concerns about the overall business cases of each prospective bid, which has led to the re-evaluation.

The timing of the communication is curious, given the Kiwis and Kangaroos will play at a sold-out stadium in Christchurch on Sunday (6pm), part of a double-header with the Kiwi Ferns and Jillaroos. That’s off the back of consecutive Warriors’ sellouts in the Garden City, which illustrated the appetite for the game there.

Market research commissioned by both Christchurch bids shown that the popularity of the NRL has doubled in the South Island since 2022, mostly off the back of the Warriors’ resurgence. The success of the Kiwis and Kiwi Ferns in 2023 was also a contributing factor, while Christchurch and Dunedin would offer the only covered stadiums in the NRL.

Expansion has been a hot topic for years. After being granted a licence in 2021, The Dolphins became the 17th team last season and their introduction has been a huge success, especially with broadcast, revenue and attendance metrics, with the huge Brisbane market.
 

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