1981 Manly v Newton semi-final

[Pedro Morales Magonzales]

:lol: - yeah that cracked me up too. Barry Ross's reply was - "I will".

:lol:

Even better Ross comes back from checking with the NSWRL match officials and even they didn't know if the players had been binned or sent off.

He finally got the answer from the touch judge.

 

[PARRA_FAN]

How times have changed.

With the scrums I was watching the 81 GF, Parra Vs Newtown, and how normal it was back then when Newtown won against the feed. Rex Mossop just casually says it "Newtown won against the feed"

These days the commentators would fall out of their chairs if they see that today.

 

[no name]

Well yes because of fitness and all the extra defensive training they do. But not because of skill.

The average 2014 team would beat the average 1994 team. But that doesn't mean the footy the 2014 team plays is better to watch.

What do you think all that extra training leads to dopey?
Today's group of players are the most skilful the game has seen.

 

[Vic Mackey]

It was nice seeing a try scored off something other then a second man play

 

[Game_Breaker]

What do you think all that extra training leads to dopey?
Today's group of players are the most skilful the game has seen.

But if the players from 30 years ago were coming through the lower grades today, and benefited from the extra training, peak fitness and general professionalism of today, the only thing that would set them apart is their natural skill.

Watching those old games, it looks like grown men playing like an U6 side.

 

[Robshots]

A very experimental time of the game, the wall, a manly player taking a hit up then just stopping and rolling it through his legs to a player behind him, almost like coaches wanted to show who knew more rules.

I know in the GF that year, Gould takes a tap from a penalty 20m out, turns his back on the defence and kicks it over his head, they get the ball back too!

It is also contrasting looking at the build of the players, Brian Hetherington, a tall, speedy, strong centre but hardly built like a front rower.

Touch judges flags the size of a hanky.

That would have had to be one of Phil Sigaworth's best games too, he killed it.

No interchange, tired players, more attack.

The best bit about the game was, despite all the cheap shots, spear tackles, punches etc, when a man was tackled, he was allowed to get up and play the ball straight away.

 

[carcharias]

Well yes because of fitness and all the extra defensive training they do. But not because of skill.

The average 2014 team would beat the average 1994 team. But that doesn't mean the footy the 2014 team plays is better to watch.

They would actually destroy them with skill alone.
It would be 50 nil before half time.

 

[POPEYE]

They would actually destroy them with skill alone.
It would be 50 nil before half time.

Yes, skill creates skill creates skill, but given the opportunity most players of the old game from an early age in today's game would have no trouble reaching the same skill level. There have not however been many players who can match the forward thinking of Lewis or Johns, be lucky to find a handful like them that could still thwart today's athleticism

 

[Sime_11]

best thing about that game - top punting goalkicking lol.

surely players pickup up injuries from doing that lol.

also funny watching gould run at the line when Newtown on the attack, then halfway through is run he'd stop and pass like he was a halfback lol hahaha, i suppose that was the equivalent of a ball playing forward back then haha.

couple of head first spear tackles as well lol

good watching though.

 

[BunniesMan]

What do you think all that extra training leads to dopey?
Today's group of players are the most skilful the game has seen.

Look at how predictiable and one dimensional attacks have become. The skill level and playmaking ability of todays players is nothing like 20 years ago.

If you put those players in the bodies of todays players I bet they win easily. Players today are bigger and stronger but not more skilled.

 

[POPEYE]

best thing about that game - top punting goalkicking lol.

surely players pickup up injuries from doing that lol.

also funny watching gould run at the line when Newtown on the attack, then halfway through is run he'd stop and pass like he was a halfback lol hahaha, i suppose that was the equivalent of a ball playing forward back then haha.

couple of head first spear tackles as well lol

good watching though.

Gould was renowned for his passing game, compared to forwards of his time he was softer, Mateo comes to mind as comparable. He was easily as accomplished as Glenn Stewart with ball in hand, just not as tempestuous

 

[soc123_au]

Look at how predictiable and one dimensional attacks have become. The skill level and playmaking ability of todays players is nothing like 20 years ago.

If you put those players in the bodies of todays players I bet they win easily. Players today are bigger and stronger but not more skilled.

You need to take off your nostalgia themed rose coloured glasses. In the 90's just as one example wingers were blokes that hung around with footy players. Look at the trys being scored in the last few years in the corners. Eve some of the more mundane ones would have been try of the decade nominations 25 years ago. A lot of it is athletisism, but it is coupled with copious amounts of skill. Different players, different era's.

 

[BunniesMan]

You need to take off your nostalgia themed rose coloured glasses. In the 90's just as one example wingers were blokes that hung around with footy players. Look at the trys being scored in the last few years in the corners. Eve some of the more mundane ones would have been try of the decade nominations 25 years ago. A lot of it is athletisism, but it is coupled with copious amounts of skill. Different players, different era's.

You're putting way way way too much weight into those over the sideline tries in the corner. That is nothing compared to the dynamic play making that was such a big factor in those days and that has become much rarer these days.

 

[soc123_au]

How much football from the 80's & 90's have you actually watched Hoppity?

 

[no name]

Yes, skill creates skill creates skill, but given the opportunity most players of the old game from an early age in today's game would have no trouble reaching the same skill level. There have not however been many players who can match the forward thinking of Lewis or Johns, be lucky to find a handful like them that could still thwart today's athleticism

No one said that the old players, with the same amount of training that today's get wouldn't at least match them in skill.
The fact that players do get so much training now means they have a greater chance of increasing their skills.
There is no denying that there were some skilful freaks back in the day, but as a group today's players are without a doubt far more skilful.

 

[POPEYE]

No one said that the old players, with the same amount of training that today's get wouldn't at least match them in skill.
The fact that players do get so much training now means they have a greater chance of increasing their skills.
There is no denying that there were some skilful freaks back in the day, but as a group today's players are without a doubt far more skilful.

I think that's taken for granted, if players didn't learn from progress they indeed would be the meatheads that other sports supporters profess them to be

 

[AlwaysGreen]

How much football from the 80's & 90's have you actually watched Hoppity?

He was born in 1990, is an afl fan so I'd say none.

Back in these days there were 2 halves, five-eight and halfback, now we have 3; five eight, half and hooker. Wingers have more skill and responsibility now then they did back then. Almost every forward of our era can offload, back then you'd have one per side if you were lucky.

And the speed of the game is immensely faster, every skill you display is going at a faster pace and with more frequency.

This is not a knock at players from that era, it's just the way it is.

 

[kbw]

3/4 of the players playing first grade in the 70s would not be looked at for 1 sec now days.
Its all about being big and quick not about how well you can pass and read the game, now days.

Did you notice how quickly they packed the scrums...

 

[Mr Spock!]

You need to take off your nostalgia themed rose coloured glasses. In the 90's just as one example wingers were blokes that hung around with footy players. Look at the trys being scored in the last few years in the corners. Eve some of the more mundane ones would have been try of the decade nominations 25 years ago. A lot of it is athletisism, but it is coupled with copious amounts of skill. Different players, different era's.

Huh.

Obviously never saw Terry Fahey, Larry Corowa, Kerry Boustead, Eric Grothe. Those guys would still be rep players.

Even the 2 Blacklocks and Ferguson would be in it.

Also touching the corner post was out.

 

[Mr Spock!]

He was born in 1990, is an afl fan so I'd say none.

Back in these days there were 2 halves, five-eight and halfback, now we have 3; five eight, half and hooker. Wingers have more skill and responsibility now then they did back then. Almost every forward of our era can offload, back then you'd have one per side if you were lucky.

And the speed of the game is immensely faster, every skill you display is going at a faster pace and with more frequency.

This is not a knock at players from that era, it's just the way it is.

Also had backlines with inside and outside centre.

Now you have left and right centre basically playing as second row off flat passes/ kicks and second man plays.

Heck the Souths scrum last night had Dylan Walker in it.