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1st Test: New Zealand v Australia at Wellington March 19-23 2010

TheParraboy

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With the micky mouse games out of the way we have arrived at the big Kahula form of the game. Hopefully Clarkey is back, Smith or Hughes to replace North please

Pity Bond isnt playing. hope he doesnt break down in the IPL
 

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NZ squad has Sinclair back, they've retained Ingram, and brought in Brent Arnel....http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/3446793/Mathew-Sinclair-named-in-Black-Caps-test-squad

Ingram has been owned by Aust, so not sure why they have brought him back - although his first class record is very good. Sinclair yet again becomes the sacrificial lamb...

Arnel - won't play, I trust - but who knows?

Seriously though, Kane Williamson is in wonderful form, has been dominating at first class level, have been long recognised as probably our best prospect since Crowe... he should have played against Bangladesh - and should be in the team now - he's already achieved more than Guptill (who is talented, but...) and is a long term option (necessity, actually) unlike McIntosh, Sinclair and Ingram
 

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We don't have an attack capable of taking 20 wickets, particularly now Iain O'Brien has gone off to England.

I must say, one guy I was very surprised with for NZ was Gareth Hopkins. He's always been a very solid performer at provincial level, and a mature type of cricketer, but he was batting exceptionally well throughout the series in the middle order, and I just wonder whether, given there's an obvious issue at #3, if they would consider Hopkins to keep and McCullum to bat at 3? The obvious name to fill the gaps is Kane Williamson, he averages 50 in both first class and one day domestic cricket and is an amazing talent, but the selectors have indicated he'll be picked on an upcoming winter tour rather than this series so it leaves him out I guess.

1 BJ Watling
2 Tim McIntosh
3 Brendon McCullum
4 Ross Taylor
5 Martin Guptill
6 Daniel Vettori
7 Gareth Hopkins
8 Nathan McCullum?
9 Daryl Tuffee
10 Tim Southee
11 Chris Martin (tho I just don't rate him at all)

Wellington can be tricky depending on weather conditions. It's less insulated against the wind than the cake-tin. I just wonder whether Nathan McCullum would be worth a trot to give NZ more options into the wind.
 

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NZ squad has Sinclair back, they've retained Ingram, and brought in Brent Arnel....http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/3446793/Mathew-Sinclair-named-in-Black-Caps-test-squad

Ingram has been owned by Aust, so not sure why they have brought him back - although his first class record is very good. Sinclair yet again becomes the sacrificial lamb...

Arnel - won't play, I trust - but who knows?

Seriously though, Kane Williamson is in wonderful form, has been dominating at first class level, have been long recognised as probably our best prospect since Crowe... he should have played against Bangladesh - and should be in the team now - he's already achieved more than Guptill (who is talented, but...) and is a long term option (necessity, actually) unlike McIntosh, Sinclair and Ingram

Wow, surprised big time by Sinclair. I don't think he's always got fair treatment in the past, but to me going back to Sinclair would be like turning back to Matt Bell. We have seen consistently that when the best attacks come out that their footwork and balance isn't up to it.
 

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What a joke having Sinclair back in the side. It's been shown that he isn't up to test standard and when is Broom going to get a chance in the format where he scores runs ?
 

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What a joke having Sinclair back in the side. It's been shown that he isn't up to test standard and when is Broom going to get a chance in the format where he scores runs ?


To be honest I am not sure it has been shown that Skippy's not up to it - he's not really been given a chance for a long time - he's struggled against Aust but he's not the lone ranger there

saying that, I wouldn't have picked him, or Ingram (although his first class record is excellent). It's Williamson's time, and while the Aust attack is decent it's certainly not anything to especially worry about
 

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Williamson will get his go. I would have liked to have seen him picked for the ODIs tbh but I'm sure the selectors won't pick him for another year or 2.
 

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WELLINGTON: On the day Steven Smith became the second-youngest winner of the Steve Waugh Medal, Ricky Ponting revealed the reason behind the all-rounder's exclusion from Australia's one-day team for the tour of New Zealand was a desire to see him push his Test claims in the Sheffield Shield.

Smith last night comfortably edged out Phillip Hughes and David Warner for NSW's player-of-the-year award, capping a brilliant season in which he scored 772 first-class runs at 77.2 - including four centuries - and claimed 21 wickets, capped by a career-best match haul of 7-87 against South Australia last Friday.

The 20-year-old was similarly dominant with the bat throughout the Ford Ranger Cup (318 runs at 53) and was a big contributor in NSW's inaugural Champions League Twenty20 victory in India, prompting Waugh to declare: ''[Smith] is one of the most exciting players in Australian cricket in 20 years.''

His NSW apprenticeship accomplished, Ponting says Smith is presenting a near-irresistible case for a Test debut against the Kiwis.

Both Ponting and Australia's first-choice spinner, Nathan Hauritz, are talking up the worth of giving Smith a run at Wellington's Basin Reserve from Friday. They are not necessarily advocating the sacking of out-of-form Marcus North at No.6, but both believe Smith can convert his dominant Shield form, highlighted by his whirlwind century and seven-wicket haul against South Australia last week, into immediate Test success if the selectors give him the nod.

''He's not doing much wrong at the moment, is he?'' Ponting said.

''Everything he's touching is turning to gold. He made another hundred the other day and took seven wickets in the second innings of that game. It was actually half the reason we didn't have him in the one-day squad even after Shaun Marsh was ruled out. We wanted him to get that bit more experience at first-class level at home, hoping he would do exactly what he has done.''

Smith was thrilled to receive the award before joining the Test squad. ''I've learned a lot from blokes like Simon [Katich] and Hadds [Brad Haddin],'' he said. ''I've always dreamed of playing Test cricket for Australia.''

Smith's wicket-taking leg spinners would complement the more conservative nature of Hauritz's off spinners. The Basin is likely to be tailored to spin given the Kiwis' trump card is left-arm tweaker Daniel Vettori in the absence of IPL-bound speedster Shane Bond, but a drier-than-normal surface could also play into Hauritz's bowling hand.

''I'm rapt that Steve is coming over,'' Hauritz said. ''It'd be great for two spinners to be playing in Wellington. I definitely think Wellington will turn a bit at the Basin.

''If they're going to tailor it to Dan, fantastic, I'll get a bit more of an opportunity.''

Ponting, though, believed Vettori would be less of a threat on a big-turning deck. ''Dan is probably more dangerous when it's not spinning, as funny as that sounds,'' he said. ''In the one-day series the wickets didn't turn at all and the ball he bowls that slides straight on is probably his best weapon to right-handed batsmen.''

On Bond's decision to put the IPL ahead of Tests, Ponting said: ''He would strengthen their side if he was in their Test team but he's made the decision not to play Test cricket - as will probably happen more and more as the years go by.''

After months of concerns among Australian players about the wisdom of playing the IPL because of terrorist threats, Australian batsman Mike Hussey all but confirmed he would join Bond in India when his Test commitments are finished.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...-smith-firms-for-test-spot-20100314-q66p.html

We now know the reason for Smith not being picked as Marsh replacement in the ODI series. I would say its worth trying Smith at 6 and playing 2 spinners. Selectors can spin their we want 2 spinners line to the media so North doesn't look to be dropped and if Smith kills it then they can spin the unlucky North but Smith just killed it on test debut.
 

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Hopefully North can regain form, as he can be an excellent batsmen when he's on song. If not though, straight out imo.
 

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Smith's wicket-taking leg spinners would complement the more conservative nature of Hauritz's off spinners.

more conservative = balls that dont spin
 

JJ

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more conservative = balls that dont spin


which is why I am constantly amused by the rave reviews Vetorri gets (even from Australians) - in tests he's much the same (albeit better), doen't turn the ball, relies on variations of pace and flight, and doesn't get people out anywhere near often enough (nb he remains an outstanding odi bowler)

Wouldn't surprise me at all if Hauritz takes more wickets, with the exception of Bangladesh I'd imagine that opposition spinners almost always take more wickets than Vetorri
 

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1 BJ Watling
2 Tim McIntosh
3 Brendon McCullum
4 Ross Taylor
5 Martin Guptill
6 Daniel Vettori
7 Gareth Hopkins
8 Nathan McCullum?
9 Daryl Tuffee
10 Tim Southee
11 Chris Martin (tho I just don't rate him at all)
If they play another spinner it will be Patel
 

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Nathan isn't even in the squad anyway.

And as expected:

Marcus North will hold his spot in the Test side for at least one more match, although skipper Ricky Ponting admits the West Australian is feeling the heat.
Ponting says talented New South Wales youngster Steven Smith, who is also in Australia's squad for the two-Test series against New Zealand, will just have to wait a little longer.

North has scored only 294 runs at 24.50 in Sheffield Shield cricket this summer and averaged 10.25 in the summer Test series at home against Pakistan.

"There's no doubt that he's probably feeling a bit of the pressure," Ponting said at Wellington's Basin Reserve ahead of Friday's first Test.

"I've done a lot of work with him actually, one-on-one stuff the last couple of days.

"That (pressure) probably explains why his form in the last half of the Shield season probably hasn't been as strong as he would have liked.

"Just that expectation I guess and that pressure that was more spoken about in the media than anywhere else.

"I know he was disappointed to let a couple of opportunities slip in the summer but you look at what he'd done in the Test matches before that in England and in South Africa (scoring three hundreds), he just looked like a Test player that was going to be about for a long time.

"I will continue to get some work done with him and talk about his games but just what I've seen the last couple of days I am pretty confident that he will have a good Test match here.''

Australia will also gamble on a player with no Test experience, only one first-class game behind him this summer and a query over his fitness.

Queensland pace bowler Ryan Harris, who has been suffering from a side-muscle strain, is set to open the bowling with Doug Bollinger.

Harris has been in sensational form at one-day international level with 29 wickets at 15.51 in 12 matches.

But a knee injury restricted the 30-year-old to just one Shield game for the Bulls this summer before a series of eye-catching performances in the ODI tournaments against West Indies, Pakistan and New Zealand.

Victoria's one-Test player Clint McKay is also in Wellington vying for the spot left vacant two months ago by Peter Siddle's back injury.

"Ryan will play if he gets through as well as we want him to today and we'll wait and see how he wakes up in the morning," Ponting said.

McKay would be handy on a Basin Reserve pitch which Ponting expects will offer good bounce and carry for the quick bowlers.

However Ponting says the form of Harris with the new ball has been difficult to overlook in the ODI matches.

"He is a guy who can genuinely swing the ball at brisk pace," Ponting said.
AAP

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26866901-5018870,00.html
 

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need to be clear - Bond hasn't put IPL ahead of tests... he's retired from tests because his body simply can't handle them... if he plays he has a huge workload, because 1. He's so good, I'm constantly amazed at how good he actually is. and 2. the rest of our attack is lame


and yes, Skippy should play, ahead of Ingram, or Guptill... 180 against Bangladesh means little - he's done nothing ever in first class cricket
 

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...tson-breaks-down/story-e6frg7mf-1225842557043

PHILLIP Hughes looks set to make a shock return to Test cricket in Wellington against New Zealand today with Shane Watson expected to be ruled unfit to play.

The Australian website revealed on Wednesday that Watson was struggling after being struck on the hip by fast bowler Mitchell Johnson in the green-topped Wellington nets. He did not take part in the side's warm-up sessions at the ground yesterday, instead limping off for treatment. Watson batted briefly, but was downcast at the end of the session and it is understood the selectors have all but ruled him out and pencilled Hughes in for his seventh Test.

Bit of a sensationalist headline.
 
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I just can't understand how Hughes can be dropped after a couple of 'bad' innings and only three tests removed from two centuries in the same test YET North can keep his spot after failure after failure after failure ALL summer at all levels of the game.

It is very disconcerting to see the double standards selection policies in play within the side and proves there are favouritisms involved in the selection process.
 

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