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2 Voices on the Phone.

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Read the last paragraph. Seems to me, 1 person is taking all the blame, where the blame should lie with 2 of them ?. As usual, the Dragon takes all the heat, whilst the tall poppy, gets rescued. :roll:

Origin star admits 3am sex call

By ANTHONY PETERSON and MICHELLE CAZZULINO

May 21, 2004

RUGBY league star Mark Gasnier was expelled from the NSW State of Origin squad in disgrace yesterday after admitting he left an obscene voice message on a woman's mobile phone.


His club, St George Illawarra, last night also fined and indefinitely suspended the 22-year-old centre as the game was rocked by its latest scandal involving how players treat women.

The dramatic developments came after ARL chief executive Geoff Carr earlier yesterday had said allegations that an Origin player made the sexually explicit call -- just hours after a league forum to teach top players to better respect women -- were false.


But the lid came off the crisis about midday when team officials heard the voice message left for a 27-year-old woman, asking her in explicit terms to have group sex with four players.


They then confronted Gasnier, who conceded he made the call using Origin teammate Anthony Minichiello's mobile phone at 3.41am on Wednesday. Minichiello had told officials his phone was lost and he had not made the call.


Last night, Gasnier issued a statement in which he apologised for his actions.


"I will make contact with the person to personally apologise," he said.


"I was under the influence of alcohol but I understand I have to be responsible for my actions."


Gasnier, the nephew of league legend Reg Gasnier, also said he had apologised to his girlfriend, family and the Dragons for his misdemeanour.

"I have paid a huge price for my actions in the circumstances," he said. "It has been my life ambition to play State of Origin."


The new crisis to hit the game -- just weeks after police announced they had insufficient evidence to prosecute up to six Bulldogs players over rape claims -- erupted after an Origin team bonding night.

The 27-year-old Sydney woman awoke on Wednesday to hear a message on her mobile phone which had come from Minichiello's mobile phone.


In the message, Gasnier said there were four men in a taxi looking for sex. Their names were not mentioned.


NRL boss David Gallop yesterday did not hide his disappointment at a time when the game is spending $1 million to improve players' attitudes towards women.


He foreshadowed further penalties. Gasnier also could face a fine or a suspension from the NRL.


"Respect for women could not have been any higher on the agenda for everyone in the game," Mr Gallop said. "Commonsense was to have a few beers and go to bed."


The woman, who hasn't met Gasnier, told The Daily Telegraph she had mixed emotions about the outcome.


"I feel, I guess, a bit bad about [the severity of Gasnier's punishment], but they're representatives, and they've got to learn how to respect women," she said.


"I didn't really ask for anything -- I just was reporting it because it was a disgusting message and I wanted it on the record just to make known that you can't talk to people like that."


Reg Gasnier expressed surprise when told of his nephew's expulsion. Earlier yesterday, Mr Carr was quick to denounce The Daily Telegraph for reporting a "massive beat up" that the woman involved had complained to Minichiello's Roosters' club call.


Mr Carr said he believed Minichiel lo's story he lost his phone at the casino. But casino staff examined footage and did not find any evidence of his phone being lost or stolen.


Mr Carr said there was only one voice on the message and the call was made before Gasnier caught a taxi.


However, The Daily Telegraph maintains there are two different voices on the message
 

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Another Story in Fridays Tele. Roosters trying to run roughshod over the lady. :roll:

Club's official 'tried to defend players'

By MICHELLE CAZZULINO

May 21, 2004

THE woman at the centre of rugby league's phone sex scandal has revealed the intimidation she was subjected to after making a complaint against a Roosters player.


The 27-year-old's revelations yesterday led to the expulsion of Mark Gasnier from the NSW State of Origin team.

Last night, the woman received an apology from ARL and NSW rugby league chief Geoff Carr, who also offered her tickets to upcoming games.


His offer was declined.


On Wednesday night, the woman said that she had been cautioned that the reputations of several Roosters teammates would be called into question if a headline implicating an unnamed player was published in The Daily Telegraph.


Earlier that day, she had made a formal complaint to the Sydney Roosters after she received an obscene phone message made from Roosters player Anthony Minichiello's mobile phone, which he claimed he'd lost.


The message, which was left at 3.41am on Wednesday, said in part, "Where the f... are you? There's four toey humans in the cab ... and you're in bed. F... me -- fire up, you sick c...".


At least two voices are audible on the tape.


On Wednesday evening, the woman said she was contacted by Roosters CEO Brian Canavan, who promised to investigate the matter fully.


During their conversation, she said Mr Canavan pointed out her actions could potentially damage Roosters players who were not involved in the phone sex incident.


"He said that the media can hurt the reputations of these players, [with] you taking this to the media like you are ... there's no actual facts that it was Anthony [Minichiello] and Anthony's denied it," she said.


"[Mr Canavan said] I know Anthony and he's an honest kind of guy and this could really hurt his reputation, not to mention Craig [Wing] and [Craig] Fitzgibbon."


"I said, 'That's not really my problem'."


Yesterday Mr Canavan defended his actions and claimed that when the woman phoned the club initially she had left her phone number, but had not insisted that her complaint be followed up.


Mr Canavan said he was sorry if he had caused the woman to think that she was being made to feel bad about lodging the report.


"If that's the case, I do apologise -- that wasn't my intention.

"This is so unsettling for her, and it's quite disturbing for rugby league," he said.


"I don't want to give the impression that I was trying to brush this aside, because that's not my style.


"We addressed this as quickly as we possibly could. I was just trying to defend reputations where they deserved it, and only where they deserved to be defended."


Mr Canavan said he had kept extensive notes detailing the conversations he had had with the woman over the past two days and rejected the notion his sentiments on Wednesday night had been designed to intimidate.


He described that conversation as "low-key" and said at no stage had the woman seemed upset by his remarks.


"I said other players' reputations could be damaged if a headline [referred to] 'Roosters players'.


"I don't see that that's intimidation -- I'm sorry, but I'm not agreeing with that.


"I promised her a full investigation and I did apologise, twice, on behalf of rugby league. That's not intimidatory at all."


Last night, the woman said she was experiencing mixed emotions about going public with the phone message, but said ultimately she could not be held responsible for Mark Gasnier's actions.


A statement late yesterday by Gasnier's club side St George Illawarra described the 22-year-old centre as "tearful" and "apologetic" for his actions.


"I was under the influence of alcohol but I understand I have to be responsible for my actions," he said.


"I have paid a huge price for my actions in the circumstances. It has been my life ambition to play State of Origin.


"I apologise to my partner, my family, my club, my teammates and to the game for the public drama that has been created."
 

JJ

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Gasnier was an idiot, and in the prevailing climate it was a pretty stupid thing to do, regardless of how much alcohol he'd consumed. It clearly shows there is a problem with these moron's attitudes.

But I have no doubt he wasn't alone, and wonder why he was singled out
 

Chook

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Here we go!

Cue endless stream of stupid conspiracies theories from moronic halfwits!

Chook.
 

JJ

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Chook said:
Here we go!

Cue endless stream of stupid conspiracies theories from moronic halfwits!

Chook.


If it wasn't for what's gone on in recent times, I would view this as a storm in a tea cup. But, you can't get away from the fact that their are a few issues that need to be addressed.

For mine, I think Gasnier was very stupid, and his punishment has been VERY harsh, too harsh probably. Given the harsh punishment handed to him, I just wonder why no-one else sufferred any consequences?

I wasn't alluding to any conspiracies involving the Roosters, sorry to inform you
 

Chook

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I also believe Gasniers' punishment has been over the top and it will probably force him to turn his back on the game. He is being made to pay for the sins of others who wear dark blue not light blue!

I am referring to the moron who started this thread in a vain attempt to divert attention from his club's crisis, rally support and somehow turn this into another Rooster bashing opportunity.

And this moron never uses fact, quote or statement to make a point, just innuendo, heresay, conjecture, speculation and his own moronic bias.

Chook.
 

drake

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I think Gaz is doing the right thing by not naming or incriminating his team-mates.
I'd say he kept quiet thinking Mini would be able to get it fixed up.
When Gaz was nailed he took it on the chin and didn't try and share the blame.
Where I come from, you don't dog your mates when you get busted.
It was a dumb arse thing to do, but at least he has the front to take his hit and not squeal.
I think there are 3 origin players that owe him many beers.
 

sretsoor

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The fact is, it was his voice that left message, no one elses. Thus the reason why only he is getting punished irrespective if 1 or 50 others were with him.
 

drake

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Accessory to the crime, his colleagues in the cab would still be hung out to dry to appease the media beast. And may well be if a certain radio personality has his way this morning.
 

legend

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Wrong sretsoor, there were two voices audible on the message and the second is yet to come forward but once they find out who it is, he is going to be punted as well.
 

Roosterphin

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I applaud Gasnier for copping it on the chin...he left the message he pays the price regardless of who was with him.

But St Dillbrainman your pathetic attampt to curb the blame on the Roosters again really is that....pathetic. Why dont you take a leaf out of Gasniers book and just cop it sweet.
 

Clarkieel

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And so he should be!
I agree it is very harsh esp as other players have gotten away with a lot worse but ont he other hand how stupid can you be to leave a message like that with all that is going on at the moment in the game!
 

drake

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Roosterphin said:
I applaud Gasnier for copping it on the chin...he left the message he pays the price regardless of who was with him.

But St Dillbrainman your pathetic attampt to curb the blame on the Roosters again really is that....pathetic. Why dont you take a leaf out of Gasniers book and just cop it sweet.

As I posted earlier, good on Gaz for not dogging his "mates".

But I do understand STGillaman's frustration at the teflon coated ones escaping again. If he was in the cab as has been suggested on the radio, he must have known what was going on with his phone. It will only bring more disgrace to league if origin players who employed by the same club as the coach are shielded from harm.
 
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just need someone who saw the players leave in the cab or the cabby to come forward and then we will have some more names. Gaz is the scape goat here and was man enough to admit it. There was more players with him and they are cats if they don't put their hand up and admit they were there and if they egged him on or didn't try to stop him they are gulity too.
So who ever the other players are, this is a team sport stop being selfesh and letting Gaz take all the blame. Glad the players in question aren't my team mates they wouldn't be very realiable in the tough times.
 

Roosterphin

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drake said:
Roosterphin said:
I applaud Gasnier for copping it on the chin...he left the message he pays the price regardless of who was with him.

But St Dillbrainman your pathetic attampt to curb the blame on the Roosters again really is that....pathetic. Why dont you take a leaf out of Gasniers book and just cop it sweet.

As I posted earlier, good on Gaz for not dogging his "mates".

But I do understand STGillaman's frustration at the teflon coated ones escaping again. If he was in the cab as has been suggested on the radio, he must have known what was going on with his phone. It will only bring more disgrace to league if origin players who employed by the same club as the coach are shielded from harm.

And once again Dillbrainman is going on "speculation" ...it is all he ever does.

As for Gasnier I am now led to believe that he was quite happy for mini to take the rap and it wasnt until the tape came out that he owned up. Some mate hey!
 

drake

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Roosterphin said:
drake said:
Roosterphin said:
I applaud Gasnier for copping it on the chin...he left the message he pays the price regardless of who was with him.

But St Dillbrainman your pathetic attampt to curb the blame on the Roosters again really is that....pathetic. Why dont you take a leaf out of Gasniers book and just cop it sweet.

As I posted earlier, good on Gaz for not dogging his "mates".

But I do understand STGillaman's frustration at the teflon coated ones escaping again. If he was in the cab as has been suggested on the radio, he must have known what was going on with his phone. It will only bring more disgrace to league if origin players who employed by the same club as the coach are shielded from harm.

And once again Dillbrainman is going on "speculation" ...it is all he ever does.

As for Gasnier I am now led to believe that he was quite happy for mini to take the rap and it wasnt until the tape came out that he owned up. Some mate hey!

'Phin I would actually think that they all hoped the 'lost phone' story would work. When it didn't he took the rap.
 

Shark

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While it might be admirable of Gas to cop all of this on his (not unsubstantial) chin, it's pretty low of his 'mates' to let him hang out to dry.

There will be at least one other sacking, because they WILL identify the other person heard in the background. Hopefully that person will be 'man' enough to do what Gas did, and cop it without argument.

Still, I agree with 'phin and Drake, all concerned were happy for the 'Lost Phone' story to run, hoping it would all go away. Wishful thinking.
 

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