2005 NAB AFL Rising Star

[meltiger]

Is ...... Brett Deledio from Richmond

Well done to the 18yo!

The future Richmond Captain pulled in 43 out of a possible 45 votes to edge out Ryan Griffen of the Western Bulldogs.

 

[meltiger]

Hopefully this will now stop the self righteous posturing by one particular clubs fans over who was the better selection.

Delid and Griff are clearly the best two players of last years draft.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=226179

Deledio's star has risen
2:30:53 PM Wed 31 August, 2005
Paul Gough
Sportal for afl.com.au
Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio has edged out the Western Bulldogs' Ryan Griffen to win this year's NAB Rising Star Award with the two young stars dominating the final voting.

Deledio polled 43 out of a maximum of 45 votes to become the first Richmond player to win the award, with Griffen finishing a clear second on 34 votes. Fremantle's David Mundy (19 votes), Melbourne's Brock McLean (15 votes) and Brisbane's Jed Adcock (14 votes) were the only other players to poll in double figures.

The votes were cast in a 5-4-3-2-1 format by nine judges with Deledio and Griffen getting the nod as the top two players from each judge except former Richmond champion Kevin Bartlett, who gave Deledio the maximum five votes but did not give Griffen a single vote.

To be eligible a player had to be aged under 21 at the start of the season, have played fewer than ten games at the start of the season, and he must not have been suspended during the season. One player was nominated from each round of the season.

Deledio becomes the first number one draft pick to win the award in his debut season although St Kilda's Nick Riewoldt, the number one pick in the 2000 draft, won the award in his second season in 2002 after an injury-marred first season in 2001 meant he was still eligible.

The 18-year-old from Kyabram not only played every game this season but averaged 15 disposals, four marks and two tackles per game and also kicked a handy 14 goals in his first season with his electrifying pace already drawing comparisons to last year's Brownlow Medal winner Chris Judd.

Deledio also showed his versatility by playing as a midfielder and defender in his first season while he even played as a key forward in the Tigers' round 15 win over Essendon at the MCG.

His best performance of the season was against Hawthorn in round 21 when he had 26 disposals with his exciting dash around the wing helping set up the Tigers' winning goal in the final minute.

Griffen performed superbly to finish in second place given he played just 17 games for the season after injury interrupted pre-season.

The number three pick in last year's draft impressed with his poise and balance and ability to beat tackles and kick the ball accurately over long distances.

His best performance came in round 17 when opposed to Geelong star Gary Ablett he had 21 possessions at half-back in a best-afield performance.

While future midfield champions in Deledio and Griffen dominated this year's voting, this year's crop of nominees also featured plenty of exciting future key position stars headed by third placed getter Mundy as well as Collingwood's Travis Cloke, Essendon pair Kepler Bradley and Jason Laycock, Hawthorn pair Lance Franklin and Jarryd Roughead, Bulldogs' ruckman Will Minson and Geelong full-forward Nathan Ablett.

The Brisbane Lions headed the list of nominations for this year's award with four while the Hawks had three with reigning premiers Port Adelaide, minor premiers Adelaide, Sydney and the Kangaroos the only clubs not to earn a Rising Star nominee this season.

FINAL VOTING:
Brett Deledio (Rich) 43, Ryan Griffen (Dogs) 34, David Mundy (Freo) 19, Brock McLean (Melb) 15, Jed Adcock (Bris) 14, Jordan Lewis (Haw) 3, Justin Sherman (Bris) 2, Adam Selwood (WCE) 2, Lance Franklin (Haw) 1, Kepler Bradley (Ess) 1, Will Minson (Dogs) 1.

INDIVIDUAL VOTING:

Andrew Demetriou
5 - Deledio, 4 - Griffen, 3 - Mundy, 2 - McLean, 1 - A Selwood.
Adrian Anderson
5 - Griffen, 4 - Deledio, 3 - McLean, 2 - Mundy, 1- Franklin.
Rod Austin
5 - Deledio, 4 - Griffen, 3- Adcock, 2 - McLean, 1 - Mundy.
Kevin Bartlett
5 - Deledio, 4 - Adcock, 3- McLean, 2 - Lewis, 1 - Mundy. :lol:
Gerard Healy
5 - Deledio, 4 - Griffen, 3 - Mundy, 2 - Sherman, 1 - Minson.
Neil Kerley
5 - Griffen, 4 - Deledio, 3 - Mundy, 2 - Adcock, 1 - McLean.
Chris Mainwaring
5 - Deledio, 4 - Griffen, 3 - Mundy, 2 - McLean, 1 - A Selwood.
Kevin Sheehan
5- Deledio, 4 - Griffen, 3 - Adcock, 2 - McLean, 1 - Bradley.
Robert Walls
5 - Deledio, 4 - Griffen, 3 - Mundy, 2 - Adcock, 1 - Lewis.

 

[camsmith]

Kevin Bartlett
5 - Deledio, 4 - Adcock, 3- McLean, 2 - Lewis, 1 - Mundy.


Lol good on ya Kevin.

Lids had it in the bag, well he should of.. easily the best first year player in the comp.

Although i thought it was on tonight and was gonna get comfy on the couch and watch lids win it on Foxfooty... but obvously they do it during the day! :| oh well.

 

[CyberKev]

Hopefully this will now stop the self righteous posturing by one particular clubs fans over who was the better selection.

Delid and Griff are clearly the best two players of last years draft.

Pfft.

The nonsense was started by a cross-section of Richmond fans and has been largely maintained by Richmond fans with their consistent attacks on Franklin & Roughead. A very small proportion of Hawk fans go on with drivel about Tambling, none that I've heard deride Delidio.

Well deserved to both Deledio & Griffen who deserved to finish one and two on the strength of their seasons.

For now they are the best to come out of last season's draft, and were always going to be given their talent, and the softer roles they got to play thoughout the season.

They are neither clearly NOR easily better than a number of other players nominated for the award, however, as will be borne out over time.

At any rate, the Rising Star is good and fine, but the bigger challenge is to get a spread of the best young talent across the park.

 

[meltiger]

Gee ... Temper, temper.

Did I say Hawthorn Kev?

 

[meltiger]

At any rate, the Rising Star is good and fine, but the bigger challenge is to get a spread of the best young talent across the park.

That why Hawthorn has such an aversion to winning? lol


You lot should dead set take up politics I swear, the sh*t that gets spun from the mouths of Hawthorn fans is sensational.


I'll laugh my arse off if we win less than 5.5 games next year and you lots miss out on priorities in the Super draft...

 

[CyberKev]

That why Hawthorn has such an aversion to winning? lol


You lot should dead set take up politics I swear, the sh*t that gets spun from the mouths of Hawthorn fans is sensational.


I'll laugh my arse off if we win less than 5.5 games next year and you lots miss out on priorities in the Super draft...

Meh.

Aren't Richmond finals certainties next year?

At any rate, the priority system is set for revision next season.

Super draft? Possibly. Then again, umpteen people were flapping their gums last December/January about how far superior the talls on offer in 2005 were going to be to Roughead & Franklin, which clearly isn't the case.

From a Hawk perspective, we also have Joshua (third generation) Kennedy coming our way under f/s in 2006. Has been killing them as a 16 year old key defender for Sandringham (in the TAC) and Xavier (in the APS). Effectively we'll be guaranteed two first rounders, if not two top tenners next time around wherever we finish.

I'm laughing my arse off already

 

[CyberKev]

Gee ... Temper, temper.

Did I say Hawthorn Kev?

These days you don't have to, its clearly implied before you even type a letter ;-)

 

[CyberKev]

You lot should dead set take up politics I swear, the sh*t that gets spun from the mouths of Hawthorn fans is sensational.

:lol:

What you don't take into account is that I regularly scan across opposition club fora to keep up with developments.

The hypocrisy of your above statement is highlighted whenever I log on to the PRE, mate...

 

[meltiger]

:lol:

What you don't take into account is that I regularly scan across opposition club fora to keep up with developments.

The hypocrisy of your above statement is highlighted whenever I log on to the PRE, mate...

LOL

Some good posters at Pre ... Quite a few dead beats though as well, a few of which I'm positive are the same people as our friends over at bigfooty such as Tigertime and Bentleigh.

Personally, I don't care what people are saying in their backyards. Doesn't really faze me that much lol Don't read any of the other fan sites

 

[meltiger]

Meh.

Aren't Richmond finals certainties next year?

I think they are .... Take this into account Kev, we lost a game in Geelong by a single point, due to one of the flukiest goals I have ever seen (If it wins goal of the year they are kidding themselves), we lost to West Coast by 2 points due to the cheating of a WA umpire in the 2nd quarter and we lost to Nth Melbourne purely and simply because we didn't kick straight.

Reverse those results and we play finals.

Do I think we'll make it next year? Yes, I really do. Will I be overtly upset if we don't? Meh, we're coming from a long way back, so long as Terry keeps us improving I'm happy.

At any rate, the priority system is set for revision next season.

I genuinely hope it happens, personally, I thought the idea that came from I think Adelaide was the best - Give the extra picks at the end of the first half of Round 1 - ie: If a team finishes 13th and wins 5.5 games and three teams win 5 - At the moment, the 13th team doesn't get a pick till #7, if we go with the aforementioned idea, those priorities will be at picks 9, 10, 11 - Meaning the team that won half a game more than the other three isn't completely discriminated against. However on the other hand, the truly sh*t teams still get an advantage over those that play finals.

Super draft? Possibly. Then again, umpteen people were flapping their gums last December/January about how far superior the talls on offer in 2005 were going to be to Roughead & Franklin, which clearly isn't the case.

I was actually not buying into this, writing it off as internet fluster until I heard Wallace say pretty much the same thing. To hear a football official say it - I tend to beleive it now.

Roughead is doing well, gotta say I like him alot. But cut the crap on Franklin - He's just not that good yet. Let's give it 2 more years before we start judging the other talls like Adam Pattison who will come on well as they learn the game more.

From a Hawk perspective, we also have Joshua (third generation) Kennedy coming our way under f/s in 2006. Has been killing them as a 16 year old key defender for Sandringham (in the TAC) and Xavier (in the APS). Effectively we'll be guaranteed two first rounders, if not two top tenners next time around wherever we finish.

I'm laughing my arse off already

Won't you be drafting the younger Tuck under father-son??? Wouldn't that rule you out of taking one of the above two kids?

Amazing Footballing bloodline that one, 3 Ablett's, 2 Tucks and god knows who else to come ... All from the one extended family.

 

[meltiger]

If you don't want the younger Tuck, he's more than welcome to come play with his older brother by the way ;-)

 

[Eddie.]

Meltiger its all well and good to point out the close losses, but everyone has them.

You could also look at the other side of the coin and say, Richmond went within a whisker of Losing to Brisbane, The Bulldogs and Hawthorn all games in which they kicked the winning goal with under 3 minutes on the clock.

Things tend to even themselves out. I think Wallace did a very good job this year, although ultimately having started 7-2 he would be dissapointing in missing the finals with only 5 of the last 13 to win. I think with the loss of Brown the players might of just lost a little belief.

 

[camsmith]

You said it, the loss of brown.. If we had Brown, we make finals.

So next year.. Finals.

 

[meltiger]

You said it, the loss of brown.. If we had Brown, we make finals.

So next year.. Finals.

Exactly right .... With Browny in the team at the very least the loss to Geelong wouldn't have happened.

Nothing would have helped us the day we played West Coast, not even an All Australian side could have helped us compete with the rampant cheating of the West Australian dog officiating at the Punt Road end of the ground. (The worst was when Krak had the ball THROUGH for a goal and the f**k called it back for a non-existant free kick)


In saying all this however, it's all whinging in the wash ... We missed the finals, dissapointing but not the end of the world. What I am more pointing out is that after a season where we won only 4 games, we have come out this year and been competitive & really, reverse a couple of results and we would have made the finals. We are not really going to lose a hell of a lot of experienced players from this years team, which means with the kids improving, we will continue to improve.


That's really more my point - Making the point to someone who wants to see us fail that I do beleive we are more than capable of playing finals next year - I mean for christs sake, many people are saying the Swans will win the premiership ... We led them by 45 points (Inclusive of a rookie list player spanking one of their superstars) before the kids legs gave out.......

 

[CyberKev]

Roughead is doing well, gotta say I like him alot. But cut the crap on Franklin - He's just not that good yet. Let's give it 2 more years before we start judging the other talls like Adam Pattison who will come on well as they learn the game more.

Franklin needs to improve (and bulk up), and will, which is scary, since his debut year has been better (statistically) than any other tall in the last decade bar Kozitschke (allowing for Reiwoldt playing six games in his debut year, before firing big time in his second). Practically every goal he kicked this season was brilliant, but his capacity for freakishness has led to him being marked harder, which is unfortunate, given that his defensive side was the best of all the topline draftees from last season, Griffen & Deledio included. In overall terms he had the toughest gig for the year too, notwithstanding Roughead's assignments over the past six weeks. At any rate, Franklin will probably be playing outside midfield next season, so he will have to be looked upon in a different light.

Pattison should make for a good mobile ruck back-up player, which is what I wanted to get him to Hawthorn for.

Won't you be drafting the younger Tuck under father-son??? Wouldn't that rule you out of taking one of the above two kids?

Travis Tuck should be taken under f/s THIS year. He has been training down at the club and has impressed, despite talk that he will need a few years. He has regularly been among the best players for his club at TAC level, but who knows.

Amazing Footballing bloodline that one, 3 Ablett's, 2 Tucks and god knows who else to come ... All from the one extended family.

Indeed, although I do hope he's more like Gary Ablett Jr than he is like Luke Ablett.