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2009 NBA Draft

Ridders

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Imo best bargain picks in the draft were Rubio at 5 (I know i'm a Ricky fan boy), Jrue Holiday at 17 to Philly and Wayne Ellington to Minnesota at 28. Hopefully Jrue sliding dissuades players coming to the NBA well before they are ready. No doubt he will be a good playerin 3-4 years. I would love to have seen Rubio go to NY, imo he is made for D'Antoni's system.

Still surprised Minnesota didn't take Curry at the 6 spot. Him and Rubio imo would have been such great compliments. Interesting to see how Telfair, Rubio and Flynn fit in. I've heard rumors that T-Wolves may trade either Rubio or Flynn.
 
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El Coconuto

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I heard a rumour that the Timberwolves were trading Rubio to Orlando for J.J. Reddick!?!? :)

(I can dream, can't I?)
 

Stonecutter

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Very suprised too see Mills go so low, Neville and Ingles not at all. This draft was apparently the weakest since 2001. Thabeet could be a massive bust. All he has is blocking and size, even with that he was destroyed by the Spurs draft pick who is 6'7 in a game.

I think that is why we saw so many trades before the draft. The bottom teams really didn't get much out of it apart from Minesota with Rubio.
 

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happy with Jennings for the bucks. We need to look for a home-run and if Jennings has the potential to be a AI clone with better passing.

Of the other teams I reckon the Thunder will regret not taking Ricky Rubio. Rubio to Durant could have been one of the great tandems.
 
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McLovin

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I heard a rumour that the Timberwolves were trading Rubio to Orlando for J.J. Reddick!?!? :)

(I can dream, can't I?)

JJ is rumoured to be packing a 14 inch shlong. I loved him when he was in college. He needs the right situation imo...Trade him to the Suns and it'll be Joe Johnson all over again...
 

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If Thabeet had of gone from the 10-15 range, i would not have thought much of it, but No.2 shows how poor this draft is. Minnesota taking Flynn, the guy they were expecting to take before Rubio slid, shows that they aren't confident Rubio will play for them.

Didn't watch the 2nd round but just saw the results. DeJuan Blair to the Spurs had to be the steal of the draft. I don't understand how he could have slid so far. The guy is a rebounding beast who will no doubt help the Spurs cover their skinny front-court. Love this pick. Imo of all the front-court players drafted, apart from Blake Griffin, he is the most ready to help a team. Spurs have had a brilliant draft period.

Darko in NY will be fun :)
 

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Wouldn't it have been great if Rich Bucher didn't come on and explain things right after Minny drafted Ty Lawson. This would have been comedy of the highest order. How many people were visualising the 3 point guard offense (lets no forget Telfair), before Bucher came on and explained the trade to Denver.

Also what did people make of Jennings coming on the stage and shake Stern's hand 3 picks after he was taken at ten. Has this ever happened in the history of the NBA draft?
 
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Ridders

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Heard a crazy thing about DeJuan Blair. Is it true that the guy doesn't have ACL's? How does that work? Does it affect his athletic ability? Can you tear an ACL if you don't have one?
 

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Heard a crazy thing about DeJuan Blair. Is it true that the guy doesn't have ACL's? How does that work? Does it affect his athletic ability? Can you tear an ACL if you don't have one?

Im pretty sure its not true. They were just saying it because they were so bad and he had surgeries on both. Either way his coach said he never missed a practice, and he is a MAJOR steal from the draft, for as long as his knees hold out I guess.
 

Ridders

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It still amazes me how he slipped so far. How can so many teams be willing to gamble on players from Italian, French, Spanish Leagues who will probably never even come to the NBA, yet fail to take a guy who is a proven producer?
 

andrew057

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It still amazes me how he slipped so far. How can so many teams be willing to gamble on players from Italian, French, Spanish Leagues who will probably never even come to the NBA, yet fail to take a guy who is a proven producer?

No doubt and as some many pundits have already said, Blair is NBA ready now. He will come in and produce straight away.
 
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so the media atm is having a field day with rubio

heres what there saying
rubio doesnt wanna go to minnesota and will never play for them
heres the truth
falling down to 5th hurt rubio mainly cause he needed the money of a top 3 to be able to afford hes buyout,wolves can only give 500k towards it

heres what there saying
Rubio skipped the press confrence cause he wants out

heres the truth
lol no he skipped so he could get back to spain to fix up hes buy out

heres what there saying
Rubio will get traded to ny for David lee and nate robinson

heres the truth
NY wishes lol and where the hell would nate fit next to a 5'10 flynn ??and lee lol we already have love and jefferson

in saying this we pick the best players available and flynn will be a star and so wil rubio just 2 nice pieces
 

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I've heard rumours that Rubio would have been alot happier if Minnesota had of traded up to the 2 slot and taken him there. The real losers are Sacremento (even though i'm glad it didn't happen). For a team that is struggling to sell tickets and needs to excite their fans, how on earth did they pass on Rubio and take Evans. The only problem i have with Flynn is that its so rare for PG's under 6 foot to succeed in the NBA. Chris Paul is the only guy i can really think off in recent times.

The whole problem with trading to NY is like you said, the Knicks don't really have any trade pieces that would interest the T-Wolves. Instead of running the three point guard offense they could run the 3- PF offense! NY would be ideal for a player like Rubio who flourishes in the open court.
 
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I've heard rumours that Rubio would have been alot happier if Minnesota had of traded up to the 2 slot and taken him there. The real losers are Sacremento (even though i'm glad it didn't happen). For a team that is struggling to sell tickets and needs to excite their fans, how on earth did they pass on Rubio and take Evans. The only problem i have with Flynn is that its so rare for PG's under 6 foot to succeed in the NBA. Chris Paul is the only guy i can really think off in recent times.

The whole problem with trading to NY is like you said, the Knicks don't really have any trade pieces that would interest the T-Wolves. Instead of running the three point guard offense they could run the 3- PF offense! NY would be ideal for a player like Rubio who flourishes in the open court.

yeh but i would have taken evans in a heart beat ,hes a gun and will be a awesome player
it just wont be with kings ,he doesnt fit at all what were they thinking :crazy:

na we have said we are happy if he stays ineurope for a year,we have flynn anyways we can see if hes the pg we really need if not he gets traded and we keep rubio (and no lee still makes 0 sense hes overrated)
im actually wondering if we can swing a deal with heat for beasley,would be great to have this
Jefferson/Love/Beasley/Ellington or Brewer/Flynn
 

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I'm not totally sold on Evans, first thing is that he is not a pure point guard, something that Sacremento really needed. The NBA is filled with scoring combo guards like Evans. One thing is that Rubio is a very good trading chip, and will be even better if he can improve his shot and get a bit stronger. I mean the kid is only 18 so i can definitely see this happening.
 
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I'm not totally sold on Evans, first thing is that he is not a pure point guard, something that Sacremento really needed. The NBA is filled with scoring combo guards like Evans. One thing is that Rubio is a very good trading chip, and will be even better if he can improve his shot and get a bit stronger. I mean the kid is only 18 so i can definitely see this happening.

yeh i agree unless they trade Martin for a pg or sf

Evans will still be better than martin i think ,hes got a lot of superstar potential in him

there was a rumor going around that minnesota was gonna trade flyn and james johnston to sac for evans (perfect fit imo)but bulls took him before we could get him at 18
 

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Interesting. Its crazy that Sacremento and Minny each drafted what the other team needed. Sacremento desperately needed a PG and instead got a scoring combo guard. Minny probably needed a shooting guard after trading Miller and Foye and took 2 point guards, even though they are both upgrades from Telfair.

I still can't understand the logic of Sac town not taking Rubio. From reports i've heard, Rubio was trying to convince the Kings that he was there guy and that they should take him. If reports are true, he was very interested in playing for Sacremento, especially with their large Hispanic base. When you are a team coming of an abysmal season, with your fanbase having little hope, the least you can do is to make the pick that would generate the most interest. That doesn't even begin on how it would have made sense from a basketball perspective, giving Martin the chance to play with a legit PG.
 
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well i havent seen much offlynn so decided to pull out a few college games i had on dvd
and noticed than flynn actually played like mills did last year and played a lot of sg ,so i think he can do it in the nba

size is a issue but flynn can guard pg while rubio who is 6'5 can guard sg
 

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