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2009 Real NRL Grand Final - Cessnock Vs Wyong

Pika

Bench
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None were send offs in my opinion.

Terrible reffing.

Joel was outstanding in a loosing side.

Without sounding like Macavity, he has changed his body type completely this year. Big, chubby kid with talent into a much stronger frame, with talent.

A good preseason should see him in the mix for a trial spot next year.
 

Big Tim

First Grade
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The game turned into a farce pretty quickly.

I tried explaining to a few referees at the basketball stadium that calling "technicals" for silly things just makes the players explode and you lose control, not gain it.

The first send off should have been 10 in the bin because that arm was swinging, but as soon as he was sent the Goey's felt hard done by and tried to dominate physically. The high shot from the 5/8 was a penalty at best.

Its a shame because I was enjoying the game until the 2nd send off. I am still uncertain what the 3rd send off was for....
 

Pumba

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Coach cries foul after Goannas sent packing
BY NEIL GOFFET

BEATEN Cessnock coach Todd Edwards said referee Drew Oultram was "out of his depth" after he sent off three Goannas players in yesterday's 36-4 Newcastle Rugby League grand final loss to Wyong at No.1 Sportsground.

The Goannas lost prop Sione Finefeuiaki for a high shot on lock Aaron Wallace in the 51st minute.

Five-eighth Joby Patten and winger Willie Pole'o followed him to the sheds five minutes later when the score was 10-0 to Wyong.

Patten was dismissed for a high tackle and Pole'o for his part in a brawl that was ignited by Patten's tackle, and the crowd of about 7500 roared with rage.

The decisions left Cessnock, who had been bolstered by the addition of Knights player Cooper Vuna after Newcastle's loss to the Bulldogs on Saturday night, to play the last 24 minutes with 10 men.

Wyong hooker Mitch Williams was sent to the sin-bin for his part in the fight but did enough in the other 70 minutes to win the JJ "Mo" Wilson Medal for his man-of-the-match performance.

"The bloke should never have got the job because he's just out of his depth," Edwards said of Oultram.

"The competition is improving and the refereeing is just ridiculous, and they need to look at it.

"We weren't great, don't get me wrong. For the first 50 minutes we struggled and struggled, and Wyong were pretty good in that time.

"But we held them to 10-0 and then we lost Sione and the boys' heads went down. And then the other two got sent off and they only lost one bloke to the sin-bin. It's a joke."

Edwards questioned why 25-year-old Oultram was preferred to experienced referee John Taylor, who officiated in the reserve-grade game.

"The referees' appointments board makes those decisions," NRL chairman Trevor Crow said.

"Maybe that's something we will have to look at in the future."

The controversy overshadowed a scrappy first half highlighted by two tries to Jayson Mackenzie, who played in premiership wins with Lakes United in 2006 and 2007.

Wyong scored three tries while Williams was in the sin-bin, through props Marc Reed and Rowan Kelly and fullback James Arnesen, to lead 28-0.

Winger Josh Mantellato, who was the competition's leading pointscorer this season, scored two tries either side of Cessnock's lone try to winger Chris Pyne.

Skipper Jamie Davis said last week that he never knew No.1 Sportsground existed and saw it for the first time at a media day on Thursday.

"It's awesome. I love the place," Davis laughed.

"I hope we come back here every year and do the same thing. We had a game plan and the two times we played them before we didn't execute it properly. We knew if we could, we'd get away with the win.

"It's the first time we've brought the Tooheys Cup to the Central Coast, which is awesome.

"I can't believe it; it's unreal."

Davis was unlucky not to win man of the match after a stunning display at left centre, while five-eighth Matt Sharp and halfback Mark Miller also made excellent contributions.

Davis would not let the controversy detract from the fact they became the first Central Coast team to win the Newcastle premiership.

"It probably tainted the game a little bit, but I don't think it made any difference to the outcome because I thought we were on top pretty much the whole game," Davis said.

"It doesn't matter; it's ours."

Herald
 

Ulysseus

Bench
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Out of his depth he was................
I was there yesterday, frankly he can consider himself lucky that the fence was not jumped by a few hundred pissed off people.
f**ked the game, should never have been refing it.
The more senior referee had to come on and give him a few hints (Taylor).
Oultram may only be 25, but I think that has just done his "career", well, if he turns up at Cessnock sportsground next year he is a moron.
 

Ulysseus

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BTW, next year we should probably start a Newcastle Ruby League forum and keep a decent set of stats on it, the league itself obviously can't be f**ked.
 

Big Tim

First Grade
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Young referees think that asserting dominance over the players puts them in their place....... You just lose the respect of the players and the game degenerates.
 

IanG

Coach
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The Herald said:
Coach cries foul after Goannas sent packing
BY NEIL GOFFET
14/09/2009 4:00:00 AM
BEATEN Cessnock coach Todd Edwards said referee Drew Oultram was "out of his depth" after he sent off three Goannas players in yesterday's 36-4 Newcastle Rugby League grand final loss to Wyong at No.1 Sportsground.

The Goannas lost prop Sione Finefeuiaki for a high shot on lock Aaron Wallace in the 51st minute.

Five-eighth Joby Patten and winger Willie Pole'o followed him to the sheds five minutes later when the score was 10-0 to Wyong.

Patten was dismissed for a high tackle and Pole'o for his part in a brawl that was ignited by Patten's tackle, and the crowd of about 7500 roared with rage.

The decisions left Cessnock, who had been bolstered by the addition of Knights player Cooper Vuna after Newcastle's loss to the Bulldogs on Saturday night, to play the last 24 minutes with 10 men.

Wyong hooker Mitch Williams was sent to the sin-bin for his part in the fight but did enough in the other 70 minutes to win the JJ "Mo" Wilson Medal for his man-of-the-match performance.

"The bloke should never have got the job because he's just out of his depth," Edwards said of Oultram.

"The competition is improving and the refereeing is just ridiculous, and they need to look at it.

"We weren't great, don't get me wrong. For the first 50 minutes we struggled and struggled, and Wyong were pretty good in that time.

"But we held them to 10-0 and then we lost Sione and the boys' heads went down. And then the other two got sent off and they only lost one bloke to the sin-bin. It's a joke."

Edwards questioned why 25-year-old Oultram was preferred to experienced referee John Taylor, who officiated in the reserve-grade game.

"The referees' appointments board makes those decisions," NRL chairman Trevor Crow said.

"Maybe that's something we will have to look at in the future."

The controversy overshadowed a scrappy first half highlighted by two tries to Jayson Mackenzie, who played in premiership wins with Lakes United in 2006 and 2007.

Wyong scored three tries while Williams was in the sin-bin, through props Marc Reed and Rowan Kelly and fullback James Arnesen, to lead 28-0.

Winger Josh Mantellato, who was the competition's leading pointscorer this season, scored two tries either side of Cessnock's lone try to winger Chris Pyne.

Skipper Jamie Davis said last week that he never knew No.1 Sportsground existed and saw it for the first time at a media day on Thursday.

"It's awesome. I love the place," Davis laughed.

"I hope we come back here every year and do the same thing. We had a game plan and the two times we played them before we didn't execute it properly. We knew if we could, we'd get away with the win.

"It's the first time we've brought the Tooheys Cup to the Central Coast, which is awesome.

"I can't believe it; it's unreal."

Davis was unlucky not to win man of the match after a stunning display at left centre, while five-eighth Matt Sharp and halfback Mark Miller also made excellent contributions.

Davis would not let the controversy detract from the fact they became the first Central Coast team to win the Newcastle premiership.

"It probably tainted the game a little bit, but I don't think it made any difference to the outcome because I thought we were on top pretty much the whole game," Davis said.

"It doesn't matter; it's ours."

LINK
 

Stranger

Coach
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Young referees think that asserting dominance over the players puts them in their place....... You just lose the respect of the players and the game degenerates.

Alot more truth in this statment than first seen.

The referees manager from junior levels tells them that they need to 'assert dominance' to keep control of the game. TBH, i couldn't ref in that way and is one of the main reasons i stopped. It just makes the game spin out of control quickly.

The ref shouldn't be there to put players in there place, they should be there to call the game as they see it to the rules in the book. Sad thing is though, they are tought from the moment they pick up a whistle that they are a protected species. Just look at the attitude someone like Jason Robbinson has when he is talking to the captains of the NRL teams. No respect at all.

The last great ref we had was Mr.Bean.
 

girvie

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Wyong hooker Mitch Williams was sent to the sin-bin for his part in the fight but did enough in the other 70 minutes to win the JJ "Mo" Wilson Medal for his man-of-the-match performance.

The Knights should keep an eye on Mitch Williams.

He won Norths SG Ball player of the year in 2006, Jersey Flegg player of the year in 2007, and played a mixture of Souths NYC and Norths NSW Cup last year before heading back to the coast.

A very talented player.
 

ballbag

Juniors
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The Knights should keep an eye on Mitch Williams.

He won Norths SG Ball player of the year in 2006, Jersey Flegg player of the year in 2007, and played a mixture of Souths NYC and Norths NSW Cup last year before heading back to the coast.

A very talented player.
Who can't tackle... Coached to take dives along with Jayson McKenzie. They both bluffed the ref for the last few weeks that any highish tackle was worth a penalty.
 
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