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2012 Squad - shaping up well

Twizzle

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he was a first grader till he announced he was leaving for Parra so they dropped him

then they got a few injuries and had no choice but to reinstate him
 

Craig Johnston

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tonga ain't playing anywhere but left centre. he's got the runs on the board to deserve the first gig.

jacob will have to play on the wing or at wenty practising his left foot step
 

Tony Bongo

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Is Esi Tonga a 1st grader ? Didn't look like it to me ...hopefully I'm wrong .

Esi has a stack of ability and I'm predicting he will shine next year when he's playing with his brother and in an environment that encourages his ability. He hasn't shown much of late but he hasn't had much to be inspired by recently either. Dropping him just because he signed elsewhere was just plain stupid on Carty's part. I can't see how Esi could have possibly had any motivation to play well for the Titans. Cartwright has had him focused on him moving on ever since he signed with us. I bet he can't wait to leave the place.
I don't know if it was posted elsewhere but he had an operation on a broken arm last week. I'm assuming he will be right by the time pre-season training rolls around.
 

forestfan

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Jake Mullaney is quality

we surely didnt sign him so he could just sit in reserves again...but then again its hard to find him a spot unless he wants to go on the wing

why shift clubs just to feature in NSW CUP
 

TheRam

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Jake Mullaney is quality

we surely didnt sign him so he could just sit in reserves again...but then again its hard to find him a spot unless he wants to go on the wing

why shift clubs just to feature in NSW CUP


I agree, a bizarre signing. We have Hayne, Burt and even Morgan if desperate. Why sign a very good but very small specialist fullback when we have potentially the best player in the world playing there already.

Surely a better option would have been to trawl the lower grades for the best available hookers or halves out there. We can NEVER have enough of them competing for a starting place, can we?
 

oldmancraigy

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I agree, a bizarre signing. We have Hayne, Burt and even Morgan if desperate. Why sign a very good but very small specialist fullback when we have potentially the best player in the world playing there already.

Surely a better option would have been to trawl the lower grades for the best available hookers or halves out there. We can NEVER have enough of them competing for a starting place, can we?

Cheap backup.

Probably didn't cost the world, and provides us an excellent option in the event of a Hayne injury.

If you want to interpret it, you can probably read it as 'Kearney doesn't want Burt at fullback again'.
So Mullaney looks to be first cab off the rank for FB duties?

OR

You could interpret it another way: Mullaney isn't just a fullback, has played 5/8 in his career - could he be playing 5/8 for Wenty next season?

I suppose time will tell.
 

jason taylor

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Cheap backup.

Probably didn't cost the world, and provides us an excellent option in the event of a Hayne injury.

If you want to interpret it, you can probably read it as 'Kearney doesn't want Burt at fullback again'.
So Mullaney looks to be first cab off the rank for FB duties?

OR

You could interpret it another way: Mullaney isn't just a fullback, has played 5/8 in his career - could he be playing 5/8 for Wenty next season?

I suppose time will tell.

Marmin Barba and Mortimer will be the wenty halves
 

Joely01

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RD1 2012:

1. Hayne
2. Burt
3. E Tonga
4. W Tonga
5. Sio
6. Roberts
7. Sandow
8. Poore
9. MK
10. Mannah
11. Hindy
12. Smith
13. Maitua

14. McGuire
15. FuiFui
16. Horo
17. Allgood


Think Loko may require some games in NSW Cup at start of year to help get the Knee Injury back to 100%.

Think we will get alot out of Fui doing 20min stints in each half at the back end.

I think we will see Hindy get interchanged a fair bit next year, with Horo interchanging with him.
 

TheRam

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Cheap backup.

Probably didn't cost the world, and provides us an excellent option in the event of a Hayne injury.

If you want to interpret it, you can probably read it as 'Kearney doesn't want Burt at fullback again'.
So Mullaney looks to be first cab off the rank for FB duties?

OR

You could interpret it another way: Mullaney isn't just a fullback, has played 5/8 in his career - could he be playing 5/8 for Wenty next season?

I suppose time will tell.


Well I suppose that may make some sense then. Otherwise I can't see the point.

As for Burt not playing fullback ever again, why? He played well when put there.

Does anyone know how good a ball player Mullaney is? What sort of skill level has he got to play 5/8th?
 

Stagger eel

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I'm under the impression that Uiasele, Manuokafoa, Peletelese, Filiga and Humble are all gone.

I believe Etu has been given opportunity to stay for a season but will go if a 2 year deal pops up else where.

Tom is more than likely to go however we're still talking to him.
 

bartman

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Is Ajay Vaivaka confirmed bart?
I know nothing more than people posting in the rumours thread - so no?

I just added a name to the Manly NYC hooker rumour, and included the guys mentioned as coming under a separate heading... to keep the first post in this thread interesting!
 

Stagger eel

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Looking forward, we've got quite a health looking squad.

According to stats kept at by the guys at Rugby League Project (who post here at LU), we used 32 players this season - of those at least 8 won't be with us in 2012, and the club has recruited well to some weak positions.

Kearney having blooded youngsters means we'll have a lot of depth and experience across the park next year. I'm impressed by how many multiple positions our guys can now (confidently) cover if needed, and we should certainly give the top 8 a shake....

How do you reckon we'll shape up?

1. Hayne - Kearney's said he's leaving Jarryd at fullback, hopefully that gives him the confidence to focus on all aspects of his fullback game.
2. Burt - still our first choice winger, can also cover for Hayne at fullback and also step into the halves during a match in case of injury. Potentially a captain too if Hindy starts having more time subbed off the field.
3. Morgan - has grown well this year, can shift back to wing during a match if injuries require. Will be in competition with Esi Tonga for the spot, and its healthy to have cover.
4. W Tonga - welcome back Willie, a great addition in our weakest spot. Some people will push for Loko in the backline, but I think a further season of refinement in NYC (with occasional first grade appearances to cover injury) will do Loko the world of long-term good.
5. ? - The only potential weak spot, and should come down to whoever does the best in the off-season out of Ken Sio, Morgan, Esi Tonga, and I guessAtkins?

6. Ben Roberts - having recruited Roberts to cover a weak spot, I can't see Kearney starting the year with anyone else at five-eighth? Potentially Burt, Maguire, Maitua and maybe Mortimer might also be able to fill-in.
7. Sandow - an organising half, so long as we can get the defensive structure right, and the attacking combos gel in the off-season, this should be a major boost. Burt, Maguire and maybe Mortimer as injury cover if needed.

8. Moimoi - a beast, played more minutes than before this year, and still didn't run out of petrol.
9. Keating - has shown he can go 80mins, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Kearney use Maguire on occasion here in what was the preferred position at the start of the year.
10. Mannah - still developing, but had some good experience of Origin this year to build on next year.
11. Hindmarsh - his defence just keeps keeping on, has an offload game that wasn't really utilised in the structure this year. Would expect to see him taking a break during (rather than at the end) of games next year - we certainly have the back row depth.
12. Lasalo - still developing, and some might hesitate at him being first choice backrow, but I can't ignore that Kearney chose him as a starter in every single game this year, even when he had other options. I expect he'll stay in Kearney's plans. I expect to see a pretty even three way second row rotation with Horo next year.
13. Smith - returning to the preferred position from the start of this year, can tackle for 80mins, or might feature in a rotation to allow Maitua more game time when points are needed.

14. Maitua/Maguire - Kearney will have the ability to give anyone a one week rest during the season, to recover from injuries etc, and can choose which of these guys goes into the starting side and who he selects in this bench position week to week.
15. Horo - for an even share of minutes in the back row rotation with Hindy and Lasalo, or even for a break for Ben Smith or Maitua, or even into the centres during a game if injruy requires.
16. Allgood - our rookie of the year imo, still developing, but going great as an interchange prop.
17. Shackleton/Poore - coach's choice between these two for second interchange prop. Hard to judge Poore due to injuries, and Shack has done OK in the role this year after injuries the year before. The extra first grade standard prop allows Kearney to give any of the props a one week break and we've got it covered.
18. Poore/Shackleton - as above
19. Maguire/Maitua - as above

Players also mentioned above:
20. Esi Tonga
21. Loko - still eligible for NYC!
22. Atkins - assuming he is still under contract?
23. Mortimer - assuming he is still under contract?

Other players who should feature:
24 - Tautai - I have trouble working out how Kearney wants to use Tautai on his return next year. He seems to have transitioned from a back/centre to a back rower/forward this season, so I'm reliably informed he isn't in the mix for that weak spot of second winger. Maybe he's meant to take Lasalo's place in the back row, allowing Lasalo a year of further development at Wenty, along with Loko?
25 - O'Hanlon - we've got backrowers coming out of our arse, so despite the taste of first grade POH got this year, I can't see him getting much game time next season. So another year of development at Wenty, and can be called upon to fill injury gaps.
26 - Jake Mullaney - don't know much about this signing... NSW Cup fullback or five-eighth, possibly intended to take Humble's spot?

Fringe guys that got a small taste of firsts this year:
27 - Rory Brien - useful kid, turns 20 so a year of development ahead at Wenty.
28 - Joseph Paulo - Wenty, assuming he is still under contract?

Fringe squad players announced as re-signed during 2011:
29 - Marmin Barba - will be too old for NYC next year, so will have to make a fist of it in Wenty, with potential for a call-up/taste of firsts at some stage of the season.
30 - Peni Terepo - too old for NYC next year, so the prop will have to make a fist of it at Wenty and might get a one-off taste of firsts at some point.

Fringe squad players not yet announced as re-signed for 2012:
?? - Manase Manuokafoa - believed not to be under contract in 2012, despite winning Wenty players' player award
?? - Pele Peletelese - believed not to be under contract in 2012
?? - Karlos Filiga - believed not to be under contract in 2012
XX - Etu Uaisele - believed to have had a one year offer, but decided on going to Penrith in 2012
XX - Tom Humble - signed with Tigers for 2012

Other rumoured signings from the Rumours thread (as at 18 Sept 2011):
Jake Mullaney (Wests, fullback)
Willie Mataka (Roosters, second row)
Daniel Penese (Dragons, second row)
Nathan Smith (Bulldogs, lock/hooker)
Jason Seage (rugby union sevens?, halves)
Ajay Vaivaka (Manly, hooker)


That's a lot of depth! If Kearney doesn't steer this side into the top 8 next year, then there is something wrong. But after a shocker of a season in 2011, I reckon things are looking up for the Eels! :cool:

Have a great off-season everyone, thanks for all the discussions and debates, and see you all around next year! :crazy:

I was told yesterday that there is about 37 contracted players currently on the books for next year..

you can add

Troy Savage centre/wing

just some other news

Manase could be going to England
Pele might be heading to Queensland
Karl Filiga has decided that he may just want to play bundy cup and could be staying at wenty.
 

Utey

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Thanks for the update guys, good to see a summary without having to go through heaps of crap!
 

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