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2013 VW Tiguan v Toyota Camry?

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Replacing second car.

Knocked it down to these, with the Impreza as a smokie.

Putting aside the usual variables, kms, service history, anyone have any preference with reasons?
 

Knight Dragon

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Ok coming from a mechanic,

The VW will cost you a bomb down the track when your vehicle is out of warranty if a part fails. The Toyota will be expensive as well but there’ll be an abundance of parts in years to come due to popularity in Australia. Steer clear of both is my opinion & buy a cheap pos brand Vehicle new then upgrade when it f**ks up. I’m a world record holding mechanic buy the way
 

soc123_au

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The Tiguan will be bit more expensive to maintain. Drive wise it will feel a bit more refined than the Camry. Softer brake pedal feel, quieter and feel a bit more upmarket.

There are also a multitude of variants with each model between the povo pack & the top of the line. It really depends what you will use it for & what rings your bell in a car as to which is best. 2 very different cars.
 

Knight Dragon

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The Tiguan will be bit more expensive to maintain. Drive wise it will feel a bit more refined than the Camry. Softer brake pedal feel, quieter and feel a bit more upmarket.

There are also a multitude of variants with each model between the povo pack & the top of the line. It really depends what you will use it for & what rings your bell in a car as to which is best. 2 very different cars.
In some degree, You don’t know what you’re talking about mate. I’m an A Grade mechanic by trade. You have started steering him in a wrong direction in a way
 
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Thanks for the input.

I’ve tried to do the diligence on each brand. one thing I can usually manage is a 10k service or at least annually with full synthetic, oil, air and cabin filters. The odd radiator flush, check tyres, wiper blades and reservoir etc, just the basics. But not being a mechanic, I won’t touch brakes, engine etc ie anything remotely critical to life.

It is supposed to get the wife and kids to school, local shopping, local rellos and the odd holiday or trip to say Sydney to Eden or Port Macquarie. The odd dog, desk etc.

The v dub, they have a chronic water pump issue and some of them having timing chain issues ( I’m not sure what that is). I’m not sure if the design is mechanic friendly. I want 3 or 4 years out of it, say 45 to 60ks out of it before the usual end of life fire sale.

The higher seat is good, interior nice and the back seat goes down. It’s economical ( when it goes). I’m not re petrol or turbo diesel. I prefer the better engine whatever that is. I don’t know.
Any advice would be good.

I have an older Lexus and the mechanics hate working on it and I guess they are being honest, so I don’t mind. No “ lovely car” stuff.

The Camry, I’ve owned heaps of them. Usually engine surrenders at some point, I’ve had different things go wrong with them. Might be a lucky dip. They do the job but not much else.

I’d step up a new thing, but in my range, The offers are smaller cars and I’m wary of warrantee. I don’t really want a dealership warranty because I prefer grumpy guy down the way with all his delays and expensiveness. But the car comes back fixed, so you wear it.

The current sedan, it’s got too many issues. It’s to that point, without the tools and skills, can’t keep it.
It’s had a good 210k, 14 years of family life, factory fitted tow bar which was more interesting to the mechanics than the rest of it. I got 60k out of it over 2 years and it cost me 6k. So it’s done well.
 
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Knight Dragon

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Thanks for the input.

I’ve tried to do the diligence on each brand. one thing I can usually manage is a 10k service or at least annually with full synthetic, oil, air and cabin filters. The odd radiator flush, check tyres, wiper blades and reservoir etc, just the basics. But not being a mechanic, I won’t touch brakes, engine etc ie anything remotely critical to life.

It is supposed to get the wife and kids to school, local shopping, local rellos and the odd holiday or trip to say Sydney to Eden or Port Macquarie. The odd dog, desk etc.

The v dub, they have a chronic water pump issue and some of them having timing chain issues ( I’m not sure what that is). I’m not sure if the design is mechanic friendly. I want 3 or 4 years out of it, say 45 to 60ks out of it before the usual end of life fire sale.

The higher seat is good, interior nice and the back seat goes down. It’s economical ( when it goes). I’m not re petrol or turbo diesel. I prefer the better engine whatever that is. I don’t know.
Any advice would be good.

I have an older Lexus and the mechanics hate working on it and I guess they are being honest, so I don’t mind. No “ lovely car” stuff.

The Camry, I’ve owned heaps of them. Usually engine surrenders at some point, I’ve had different things go wrong with them. Might be a lucky dip. They do the job but not much else.

I’d step up a new thing, but in my range, The offers are smaller cars and I’m wary of warrantee. I don’t really want a dealership warranty because I prefer grumpy guy down the way with all his delays and expensiveness. But the car comes back fixed, so you wear it.

The current sedan, it’s got too many issues. It’s to that point, without the tools and skills, can’t keep it.
It’s had a good 210k, 14 years of family life, factory fitted tow bar which was more interesting to the mechanics than the rest of it. I got 60k out of it over 2 years and it cost me 6k. So it’s done well.
I’m glad I was a help in some way
 
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They’re both very different cars..

True, I am calculating expected break down and repair costs for the vw. Probably at about $450 a year over 3 years say on the basis that it’s not a lemon.

It’s record indicates that’s I am going to have to pay overs for one with a service book looking for the replacement pump and timing chain thing with plenty of kms before they go again.

But I have found a cheap non-official vw mechanic though.

Have a manual licence but I’m too lazy to drive one.
 

muzby

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True, I am calculating expected break down and repair costs for the vw. Probably at about $450 a year over 3 years say on the basis that it’s not a lemon.

It’s record indicates that’s I am going to have to pay overs for one with a service book looking for the replacement pump and timing chain thing with plenty of kms before they go again.

But I have found a cheap non-official vw mechanic though.

Have a manual licence but I’m too lazy to drive one.
Still doesn’t explain why you’re debating between a sedan & a mini suv..
 
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Still doesn’t explain why you’re debating between a sedan & a mini suv..

Probably both could do family duties equally well. The first world problems of roadworks and speed humps might suit the pretend mini suv and it’s not exactly massive.

The rear seat folds down on the suv. It sits up a bit higher which gives better line of sight.

The suv is pretty fuel efficient, if one can trust vw.

Would you think think the diesel is better?
 

myrrh ken

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I'd have to agree to avoid the VW. I had a Golf and parts were just $$.

If you don't care either way, I'd say you'll get more bang for your buck with a small to mid size sedan/ hatchback over a small SUV due to their popularity.

I'd stick to Japanese or korean if they are modern enough. People are also are panic-flogging their Holdens, so you might get a lightly used cruze
 
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I'd have to agree to avoid the VW. I had a Golf and parts were just $$.

If you don't care either way, I'd say you'll get more bang for your buck with a small to mid size sedan/ hatchback over a small SUV due to their popularity.

I'd stick to Japanese or korean if they are modern enough. People are also are panic-flogging their Holdens, so you might get a lightly used cruze

Thanks for that. I did my research as well and you are right, the dubs are not as good. So if I want to drive a car into the ground, I think the Japanese / former Aussie product is better. Not as luxurious but so be it.

Mate bought a Cruze, turbo has gone, just out of warrantee. Wouldn’t buy a Holden under any circumstances. I’ve had good ones back in the day. Vz was the last commodore I owned.

cheers.

I will post a picture of the new used car here when I get it.
 

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