2018 R7 Fri - Warriors 20-12 Dragons @ Mt Smart

[Sans Souci Sainter]

They were the simple folk who everyone felt sorry for that lucked out.

And they're not even that in the 2018 premiership story.

The Hobbits strength and skill was that they could move around the greater, more important beings unnoticed.

Sounds quite apt for the Cronulla Sea-Hawks or whatever they’re called.

 

[JamesRustle]

Our winning streak against the warriors was interrupted in 2016 when they dropped about 5 players for disciplinary reasons, so having Johnson and Kata withdraw might not be a good thing for us... I still think we'll win in a high scoring game.. 42-22.

 

[OzDragon]

Dissapointing that Johnson is out. Would have liked to see how our defence would have faired against someone like him.

 

[big hit!]

not much of a st merge steelers fan, so well done NRL on scheduling them in NZ on a short week before Anzac Day. Win or lose tonight, they'll be doing very little in prep for the Rorters.

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

Welp, what could have been a blockbuster looks like a foregone conclusion now. That's a tough break for the Warriors.

Merge by 10

 

[SBD82]

Welp, what could have been a blockbuster looks like a foregone conclusion now. That's a tough break for the Warriors.

Merge by 10

When we had a similar start to the season in 2016, the crash and burn started with a loss to the warriors after they stood down 4(?) of their players for the game.

Nothing in rugby league is foregone. And their backup half played pretty well earlier in the year when he came in for SJ.

Hoping for a win. But not confident.

 

[SBD82]

not much of a st merge steelers fan, so well done NRL on scheduling them in NZ on a short week before Anzac Day. Win or lose tonight, they'll be doing very little in prep for the Rorters.

Yeah. It's a shitty draw. There was an article that said we will get a captains run Tuesday only. Then game day Wednesday.

Luckily the roosters aren't in great form, but Anzac Day has a habit of bringing the best out of underperforming teams.

 

[blaza88z]

Yeah. It's a shitty draw. There was an article that said we will get a captains run Tuesday only. Then game day Wednesday.

Luckily the roosters aren't in great form, but Anzac Day has a habit of bringing the best out of underperforming teams.

They can't play any worse than they did last night, lol

 

[The Vaulting Violinist]

not much of a st merge steelers fan, so well done NRL on scheduling them in NZ on a short week before Anzac Day. Win or lose tonight, they'll be doing very little in prep for the Rorters.

It’s a three hour flight. Fmd people are sooks. You think most people get to take time off when they fly three hours for a day to do their job?

 

[Meapro Ham]

Warriors went fine when Johnson missed the roosters game. Wouldn’t be ruling them out.

 

[SBD82]

It’s a three hour flight. Fmd people are sooks. You think most people get to take time off when they fly three hours for a day to do their job?

Right, Because playing football is no different from every other profession.

 

[SBD82]

They can't play any worse than they did last night, lol

I hope you're wrong, but I can't see how it's possible.

 

[big hit!]

It’s a three hour flight. Fmd people are sooks. You think most people get to take time off when they fly three hours for a day to do their job?

Point isn't much about travel (although it doesn't help) but more about the short turnaround limiting prep whereas Roosters will be able to get a decent run in prep.

if you know much about S&C including recovery rather than flying off the handle about flight times and what some office worker does, you'd realise 48 hours before and after games is off limits for any decent training.

for merge this week:
Tonight - match @ Warriors
Saturday - travel & recovery
Sunday - off
Monday - 48 hours pre-game ordinarily would be off but probably fit in a light run due to circumstances and run through video etc
Tuesday - captains run (quick half hr field & maybe half hr maintenance weights)
Wednesday - match vs Roosters

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

Warriors fans just sitting back watching Sydney clubs argue about travelling....

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

When we had a similar start to the season in 2016, the crash and burn started with a loss to the warriors after they stood down 4(?) of their players for the game.

Nothing in rugby league is foregone. And their backup half played pretty well earlier in the year when he came in for SJ.

Hoping for a win. But not confident.

Your mob didn't have Ben Hunt and James Graham then, plus Leeson Ah Mau and Dufty are in career best form

 

[2010Dragons]

What is the big fuss about getting on a plane to go to work?
All interstate teams and the Warriors get on and off a plane nearly every week.
It's only a few hours flight over the ditch to NZ . Getting on a plane to go to work is no excuse for fatigue.
Sit in your seat, have a few hours snooze then get off the plane.
Sitting in a plane would be easier than driving the " Sonya bus" in traffic from Sydney to the Gong for the Sydney base Dragons players.

 

[SBD82]

What is the big fuss about getting on a plane to go to work?
All interstate teams and the Warriors get on and off a plane nearly every week.
It's only a few hours flight over the ditch to NZ . Getting on a plane to go to work is no excuse for fatigue.
Sit in your seat, have a few hours snooze then get off the plane.
Sitting in a plane would be easier than driving the " Sonya bus" in traffic from Sydney to the Gong for the Sydney base Dragons players.

It's not so much the 3 hours flying, it's that traveling home from NZ takes away a day of training in what is already a short turnaround.

 

[SBD82]

Your mob didn't have Ben Hunt and James Graham then, plus Leeson Ah Mau and Dufty are in career best form

That's true. (Thanks for hunt btw). But you'll forgive me if I'm still cautious about our good early season form. As a dragons fan I'd have to be an idiot to not consider that losing form after a great start is a possibility.

 

[2010Dragons]

It's not so much the 3 hours flying, it's that traveling home from NZ takes away a day of training in what is already a short turnaround.

Most professional players really don't need to train physically every day. These days it's more mental focus and hunger/ intensity to win on game day.
Back in the heydays most players worked full time and only trained once a week then a half an hour warm up before the game. This is how they won 11 premierships in a row with very little training.

 

[SBD82]

Most professional players really don't need to train physically every day. These days it's more mental focus and hunger/ intensity to win on game day.
Back in the heydays most players worked full time and only trained once a week then a half an hour warm up before the game. This is how the won 11 premierships in a row with very little training.

They don't need to train physically every day, but they have a routine with recovery sessions, rest days and training. All of the sports science seems to point to the importance of recovery sessions, and when you're dealing with elite athletes in contact sports they're pretty important to reduce the likelihood of injury or manage existing ones.

While the blokes in the past held down full time jobs, they weren't going out on the weekends and playing against blokes who were full time professional athletes, so it's a bit like comparing oranges and apples.

Anyway, it shouldn't be a massive deal if the club manages it properly, but the point is that the club does need to manage it. If the club took the mindset "it's only a 3 hour flight" and flogged the players to get through 5 days worth of sessions in 3 days, it'd border on negligence, and it wouldn't improve performance.