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2019 GF | PREMIERS - Roosters 14-8 Raiders @ ANZ

Grand Final: Roosters v Raiders


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GAZF

First Grade
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If JWH this he would need to seek refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy
This is misleading and a direct attack on Sia's character. Taking it back two frames shows him in a much more favourable (and accurate) light.

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Cockosh

Juniors
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This is misleading and a direct attack on Sia's character. Taking it back two frames shows him in a much more favourable (and accurate) light.

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I wouldn’t do that. I have much respect for him. Great player, great man. But facts are facts.
 
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Anyone know how they managed to get over 100k crowd for the 99 grand final, while every gf since has only been 80-82k? Did they remove seats or something, cause surely a gf since that time would have drawn in over 100k...
 

nick87

Coach
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The rules are already there. You can’t attack the legs of a kicker. The fact it hits his head is completely irrelevant. It was the most obvious penalty in the entire game.

no, the rules are there and you just don’t understand them. As per the rules, you can’t attack the legs of a kicker after the ball is kicked
If you commit to it before the ball is kick, no penalty is given

Sia got the football. End of story.
 

Cockosh

Juniors
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no, the rules are there and you just don’t understand them. As per the rules, you can’t attack the legs of a kicker after the ball is kicked
If you commit to it before the ball is kick, no penalty is given

Sia got the football. End of story.
No I’m pretty sure I understand that what’s happening in that picture is illegal regardless of any other circumstances. It’s a clear cut penalty.
 

nick87

Coach
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Except it’s not.
Because he committed to the attempt before the ball was kicked. I don’t what else to tell you, mate
The rule book... which admittedly was not always adhered to last Sunday... makes it expressway clear that you are wrong.

It’s not a penalty and had the raiders scored off that, it wouldn’t have been disallowed.

if that was against the rules, they would have to outlaw charge downs. Because by definition a charge down is attacking the football, which is being kicked by a leg, so by definition, a charge down is to attack the legs of a kicker

the rule is written specifically in a way to legalise charge downs but to put the onus on the defender to make sure he times his attempt so that he is attacking the football... when you successfully charge a football down, you’ve succeeded in attacking the football...

Name me one time a kick has been successfully charged down and a player has been penalised for attacking the legs?
 

Cockosh

Juniors
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Except it’s not.
Because he committed to the attempt before the ball was kicked. I don’t what else to tell you, mate
The rule book... which admittedly was not always adhered to last Sunday... makes it expressway clear that you are wrong.

It’s not a penalty and had the raiders scored off that, it wouldn’t have been disallowed.

if that was against the rules, they would have to outlaw charge downs. Because by definition a charge down is attacking the football, which is being kicked by a leg, so by definition, a charge down is to attack the legs of a kicker

the rule is written specifically in a way to legalise charge downs but to put the onus on the defender to make sure he times his attempt so that he is attacking the football... when you successfully charge a football down, you’ve succeeded in attacking the football...

Name me one time a kick has been successfully charged down and a player has been penalised for attacking the legs?
On NRL.com
NRL Laws & Interpretations 2019 page 4

Tackling a Kicker
When affecting a tackle on a kicker, the defender must make a genuine attempt to tackle which is not:
1 . Late
2 . High or
3 . Dangerous

Unless you want to argue that the tackle isn’t dangerous then then as I repeatedly stated it is clear cut penalty, everyday of the week, 99 time out of 100

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/documentation/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2019-final.pdf
 

Tommy Smith

Referee
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On NRL.com
NRL Laws & Interpretations 2019 page 4

Tackling a Kicker
When affecting a tackle on a kicker, the defender must make a genuine attempt to tackle which is not:
1 . Late
2 . High or
3 . Dangerous

Unless you want to argue that the tackle isn’t dangerous then then as I repeatedly stated it is clear cut penalty, everyday of the week, 99 time out of 100

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/documentation/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2019-final.pdf
Screenshot_20191009-180148.jpg

Also it's evidently only a penalty 98 times out of 100 because it's happened twice now to Keary without recourse... vs Brisbane at Suncorp with 10min to go and in the GF.
 

bileduct

Coach
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17,832
On NRL.com
NRL Laws & Interpretations 2019 page 4

Tackling a Kicker
When affecting a tackle on a kicker, the defender must make a genuine attempt to tackle which is not:
1 . Late
2 . High or
3 . Dangerous

Unless you want to argue that the tackle isn’t dangerous then then as I repeatedly stated it is clear cut penalty, everyday of the week, 99 time out of 100

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/documentation/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2019-final.pdf
Neither Cummins or any of the other onfield referees called dangerous contact from Soliola. The video ref, who had the chance to review the footage during the break in play, did not intervene and call dangerous contact from Soliola. The Match Review Committee, which reviews each match for reportable incidents that were missed by the refs, did not cite Soliola for dangerous contact.

Soliola was committed to a genuine attempt to tackle Keary well before the ball was kicked. He was aiming above the waist, not at the legs. Keary was not only too slow to get his kick away, he then jumped into the tackle after contact had already been made, as illustrated by your own screenshot.

Here is the point of contact.

screenshot.jpg
 

Cockosh

Juniors
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1,138
Neither Cummins or any of the other onfield referees called dangerous contact from Soliola. The video ref, who had the chance to review the footage during the break in play, did not intervene and call dangerous contact from Soliola. The Match Review Committee, which reviews each match for reportable incidents that were missed by the refs, did not cite Soliola for dangerous contact.

Soliola was committed to a genuine attempt to tackle Keary well before the ball was kicked. He was aiming above the waist, not at the legs. Keary was not only too slow to get his kick away, he then jumped into the tackle after contact had already been made, as illustrated by your own screenshot.

Here is the point of contact.

screenshot.jpg
So you are asserting the tackle wasn’t dangerous?
 

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