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2020 team

Knight Vision

First Grade
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I haven't run through all the clubs/teams but would there be another that has only 1 decent kicking option in the comp other than us???
not any from the top 8.

Souths were 8th in KM and Cody Walker averaged 112 mtrs per game and together with Reynolds ( 367 mtrs per game ) had 41 forced drop outs.

Storm was 4th in KM and have 3 kickers to choose from had 62 forced drop outs,

We were 15th in KM and managed just 33 forced drop outs , but were hardly in the opposition 20 to take advantage of a short kicking game.

The only comparable team to us ( in kicking game ) that made the 8 is Manly but they had the 6th highest run mtrs.

5/8 and a kicking game is a huge issue for us even more so if our forwards dont make yardage.
 

mozza91

Coach
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Mann did a few nice short kicks last year in his time at 5/8. Hopefully he’s worked further on it over the off season.
 

Spot On

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not any from the top 8.

Souths were 8th in KM and Cody Walker averaged 112 mtrs per game and together with Reynolds ( 367 mtrs per game ) had 41 forced drop outs.

Storm was 4th in KM and have 3 kickers to choose from had 62 forced drop outs,

We were 15th in KM and managed just 33 forced drop outs , but were hardly in the opposition 20 to take advantage of a short kicking game.

The only comparable team to us ( in kicking game ) that made the 8 is Manly but they had the 6th highest run mtrs.

5/8 and a kicking game is a huge issue for us even more so if our forwards dont make yardage.

I'm surprised we had 33 forced d/o. Pearce is very poor in that area.
 

Knight Vision

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I'm surprised we had 33 forced d/o. Pearce is very poor in that area.
Pearce only made 14 of those.

What highlights the lack of kicking options is the fact Pearce was 3rd for kicks and 4th in the comp for KM .

As a team we kicked the 2nd least in the comp ( long way short of the top teams ) so of course made one of the least mtrs and had the 3rd least attacking kicks.

The only kicking stat we are in the top 8 for is weighted kicks and goals.

We need a 5/8 with a boot on him.

Is there a stat for 7-tackle restarts?
no. Wish there was and also errors like caught on the last tackle
 
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Loose Cannon

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I'm surprised we had 33 forced d/o. Pearce is very poor in that area.
Yep. Pearce has the least ability of any half in the comp when trying to thread the needle. Can find an opponent’s knee consistently, as often as finding a fullback’s chest on the downtown. Needs to find the turf much more often.

His KM stats are a bit exaggerated as Knight Vision suggested.

Just another area I think Lino is currently the better option at 6. If we’re going with Mann, I hope he provides that option too.
 

Yosh

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So looks like our best team looks something like:

1. Ponga
2. Lee
3. Tuala
4. Shiasaki
5. Hunt

6. Mann/Hoy/Crossland
7. Pearce

8. Klemmer
9. Brailey
10. Saifiti
11. Fitzgibbon
12. Barnett
13. Ese'ese

14. Watson
15. Saifiti
16. Glasby
17. Mata'utia


Our strongest 17 for sure now? Only problem is the 6.
 

Yosh

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Why is the six a problem? I thought Mann has been fine these first couple of games

Is he really a 6? Haven't seen any play making from the lad. Everything has been serviceable but our attacking flow halts as soon as he gets the ball. Looks like a fish out of water whenever he gets the ball on an attacking raid. He hasn't hurt us yet but in a game where the opposition shut down Pearce and Ponga, we're going to need him to be a more creative threat to open up sides.
 

Knight Vision

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Is he really a 6? Haven't seen any play making from the lad. Everything has been serviceable but our attacking flow halts as soon as he gets the ball. Looks like a fish out of water whenever he gets the ball on an attacking raid. He hasn't hurt us yet but in a game where the opposition shut down Pearce and Ponga, we're going to need him to be a more creative threat to open up sides.
doubt he's a long term solution. I'd like to see how he goes against the top teams before discounting him though.

Given Pearce's stage of career it would be ideal to train up the next half now by playing alongside him. ......Crossland doesnt appear to have grabbed his chance though.
 

ryana87

Juniors
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So looks like our best team looks something like:

1. Ponga
2. Lee
3. Tuala
4. Shiasaki
5. Hunt

6. Mann/Hoy/Crossland
7. Pearce

8. Klemmer
9. Brailey
10. Saifiti
11. Fitzgibbon
12. Barnett
13. Ese'ese

14. Watson
15. Saifiti
16. Glasby
17. Mata'utia


Our strongest 17 for sure now? Only problem is the 6.


No Bradman Best?
 
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Interesting :thinking:

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/...ing-shootout-to-decide-who-wears-no9/?cs=2503

APRIL 30 2020 - 9:30PM

KNIGHTS | Connor Watson and Chris Randall set to duel for injured star Jayden Brailey's hooking spot

BARRY TOOHEY


Newcastle Knights
Star Knights utility Connor Watson and rookie hooker Chris Randall will go head-to-head when training resumes in a personal duel to decide who grabs Jayden Brailey's No9 starting jumper.

Watson has been widely tipped to secure the hooking role in the rebooted competition after the luckless Brailey was ruled out for the season following a knee reconstruction.

But coach Adam O'Brien has revealed to the Newcastle Herald he is yet to decide who will be his starting dummy half and even hinted he may go with a 'like-for-like' hooker in Randall because Watson is such a threat off the bench.

Toohey's News: Listen to Barry Toohey's new podcast in your Podcast app

"I think the four week training period in terms of team connection leading up to our first game back will determine whether we go with Randy or Connor," O'Brien said.

"Both of those guys are going to see some footy at nine, I know that much. But which one starts and which one doesn't, I'm not too sure at this stage."

Watson has the advantage of having done an outstanding job last season whenever he was shifted into the hooking role while Randall is yet to debut in the NRL and the club will need to be granted special dispensation if he is to play before June 30 because he is still only on a development contract.

But Watson's versatility and his tremendous impact off the bench could go against him when the final decision is made.

"Connor was probably one of our better performers in the two games we played to kick the season off," O'Brien said. "He's such a hard guy to coach against when he is playing that role [off the bench] for us.

"In the Tigers game, you've only got to look at the tackle breaks he made and just how dangerous he was and none of it was really scripted, it was just Connor being Connor.

"So I'm mindful of losing two positions by moving Connor. Sometimes you just have to go with like-for-like - put a hooker in for a hooker.

"That's something that we might contemplate but until we get back and have a look at them, ultimately the decision will be about what's best for the team - it won't be about what's best for the individual. That will be the way I go."

O'Brien admitted the loss of Brailey is a real blow to the side but they needed to move on.

"He's a great young player and it's really disappointing for him and it's disappointing for us as a club," he said. "But at the same time there is an opportunity now for Randy and Connor.

"Jayden had such a good pre-season and he is such an integral part of our side and you don't disrespect people by saying it's okay, we simply just move on.

"But at the same time, we have spoken about being a resilient footy team and this is one of the challenges that we are forced to face and we need to get on with it."

The hooking spot won't be the only quandary for O'Brien with the return from injury of powerhouse teenage centre Bradman Best likely to make things interesting for incumbent Enari Tuala on the left edge.

Tuala didn't put a foot wrong in the opening two games of the season, scoring two tries against the Tigers.
 

Knight Vision

First Grade
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Interesting :thinking:

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/...ing-shootout-to-decide-who-wears-no9/?cs=2503

APRIL 30 2020 - 9:30PM

KNIGHTS | Connor Watson and Chris Randall set to duel for injured star Jayden Brailey's hooking spot

BARRY TOOHEY


Newcastle Knights
Star Knights utility Connor Watson and rookie hooker Chris Randall will go head-to-head when training resumes in a personal duel to decide who grabs Jayden Brailey's No9 starting jumper.

Watson has been widely tipped to secure the hooking role in the rebooted competition after the luckless Brailey was ruled out for the season following a knee reconstruction.

But coach Adam O'Brien has revealed to the Newcastle Herald he is yet to decide who will be his starting dummy half and even hinted he may go with a 'like-for-like' hooker in Randall because Watson is such a threat off the bench.

Toohey's News: Listen to Barry Toohey's new podcast in your Podcast app

"I think the four week training period in terms of team connection leading up to our first game back will determine whether we go with Randy or Connor," O'Brien said.

"Both of those guys are going to see some footy at nine, I know that much. But which one starts and which one doesn't, I'm not too sure at this stage."

Watson has the advantage of having done an outstanding job last season whenever he was shifted into the hooking role while Randall is yet to debut in the NRL and the club will need to be granted special dispensation if he is to play before June 30 because he is still only on a development contract.

But Watson's versatility and his tremendous impact off the bench could go against him when the final decision is made.

"Connor was probably one of our better performers in the two games we played to kick the season off," O'Brien said. "He's such a hard guy to coach against when he is playing that role [off the bench] for us.

"In the Tigers game, you've only got to look at the tackle breaks he made and just how dangerous he was and none of it was really scripted, it was just Connor being Connor.

"So I'm mindful of losing two positions by moving Connor. Sometimes you just have to go with like-for-like - put a hooker in for a hooker.

"That's something that we might contemplate but until we get back and have a look at them, ultimately the decision will be about what's best for the team - it won't be about what's best for the individual. That will be the way I go."

O'Brien admitted the loss of Brailey is a real blow to the side but they needed to move on.

"He's a great young player and it's really disappointing for him and it's disappointing for us as a club," he said. "But at the same time there is an opportunity now for Randy and Connor.

"Jayden had such a good pre-season and he is such an integral part of our side and you don't disrespect people by saying it's okay, we simply just move on.

"But at the same time, we have spoken about being a resilient footy team and this is one of the challenges that we are forced to face and we need to get on with it."

The hooking spot won't be the only quandary for O'Brien with the return from injury of powerhouse teenage centre Bradman Best likely to make things interesting for incumbent Enari Tuala on the left edge.

Tuala didn't put a foot wrong in the opening two games of the season, scoring two tries against the Tigers.
Give the young fella a crack. Randall in for Brailey and keep Connor on the bench. In any case Watson doesnt have a great record with injuries so I expect Randall to get some time anyway.
 

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