2024 Crowd Watch

[taste2taste]

In mourning about the Perth/ Bears merger still..

Wouldn't Perth Red be over the moon Perth are getting a team ?
Maybe we havnt heard from him because he's been out celebrating on a 2 week ice bender ?

 

[Vlad59]

Correct. Reverse the situations and Canberra is being filled every time.

Very anti expansionist aren’t you?

 

[Vlad59]

17k is a very disappointing crowd for a top of the table clash, the Storm should be filling thier stadium every week.

I remember everyone's favourite LU member @Perth Red posting about his experience attending a Storm game, the tickets and food were insanely expensive. That's a sure way to keep crowds small, make it too expensive.

Speaking of Perth Red, I havnt seen him post for a while, should we check he's alright ?

So the Storm have a standard applied to them in a non nrl heartland we don’t apply to any other club? Solid.

 

[Vlad59]

apparently we have moved on now to discussing the lack of media coverage in Melbourne …I would say try to keep up..but you were one of the ones actually raising some of those concerns

I’m well ahead of you mate because I’ve lived the experience of how the Storm have grown across the board burdened with

1. Feck all support in developing the code across victoria
2. Existing in arguably Australia’s most hostile narket
3. Perpetual hatred and hostility from the Sydney mafia
4. Some poor decision making including the salary cap breaches that wounded them almost mortally.

I was part of the affiliated states program a decade ago and the ARLs operational budget for VIC, TAS, NT, SA and WA was 3 million dollars.
And the NSWRL was endlessly demanding the budget be cut.
That’s why the Storm developed independent of the local game.
With Vlandys it’s all changed and every metric including crowds is improving in Victoria. Sorry for the delay bro but wtf else did you expect?

 

[taste2taste]

So the Storm have a standard applied to them in a non nrl heartland we don’t apply to any other club? Solid.

Not everyone in VIC is an AFL fanatic. In a city of 5m that has a reputation of filling stadiums to watch any and every sport they should be able to fill a 30k stadium every week.

To expose the Storm to new Victorian fans the NRL need to have it in thier next FTA deal that all storm games are shown weekly on FTA main channel, not hidden away on GEM.

 

[Vlad59]

Not everyone in VIC is an AFL fanatic. In a city of 5m that has a reputation of filling stadiums to watch any and every sport they should be able to fill a 30k stadium every week.

To expose the Storm to new Victorian fans the NRL need to have it in thier next FTA deal that all storm games are shown weekly on FTA main channel, not hidden away on GEM.

Enjoy your fantasy world. Reputation v reality are different things. And more and more games are on the main channel btw.

 

[taste2taste]

Enjoy your fantasy world. Reputation v reality are different things. And more and more games are on the main channel btw.

In my fantasy land there's an AFL team in league mad Sydney that can sell out a 48k stadium regularly

 

[Vlad59]

In my fantasy land there's an AFL team in league mad Sydney that can sell out a 48k stadium regularly

Congratulations. If you are referring to the swans they do so after

1. A longer period to establish themselves
2. Friendlier media
3. Being gifted, at the time, the biggest ground in Sydney by us to build their fan base
4. A governing body which aggressively supported them and allowed them known (and hidden) concessions in order to be successful
5. Opposing clubs who were bullied by the governing body not to oppose the ridiculous advantages handed to them
6. A stronger localised support base of Victorians who’d moved to Sydney and
7. The virtual death of another code (union) which saw a large chunk of their supporter base transfer loyalties to the swans. John O’Neill says hello.

Oh and I forgot - the super league war

With the death of the rebels and the correct processes in place finally now in Melbourne we will see ongoing growth.
Enjoy

 

[BuffaloRules]

I’m well ahead of you mate because I’ve lived the experience of how the Storm have grown across the board burdened with

1. Feck all support in developing the code across victoria
2. Existing in arguably Australia’s most hostile narket
3. Perpetual hatred and hostility from the Sydney mafia
4. Some poor decision making including the salary cap breaches that wounded them almost mortally.

I was part of the affiliated states program a decade ago and the ARLs operational budget for VIC, TAS, NT, SA and WA was 3 million dollars.
And the NSWRL was endlessly demanding the budget be cut.
That’s why the Storm developed independent of the local game.
With Vlandys it’s all changed and every metric including crowds is improving in Victoria. Sorry for the delay bro but wtf else did you expect?

just making a point that the problems of 20 years ago like having to wait until midnight to watch ad riddled delayed games and having no other media options than the Channel 9 Melb news and the Herald Sun completely ignoring the game are a thing of the past ..

I have no doubt there are local media and other forces ( AFL) still working today towards stymying the popularity of the game of NRL in Melbourne …but at least other options are there now …you can share a Kayo subscription with your mate for the cost of a couple of schooners each per month and watch all the NRL games live …and an added bonus you get to see Slothfield, Anasta and Gordy Tallis analyse all the important issues every day ad nauseum …

 

[Vlad59]

just making a point that the problems of 20 years ago like having to wait until midnight to watch ad riddled delayed games and having no other media options than the Channel 9 Melb news and the Herald Sun completely ignoring the game are a thing of the past ..

I have no doubt there are local media and other forces ( AFL) still working today towards stymying the popularity of the game of NRL in Melbourne …but at least other options are there now …you can share a Kayo subscription with your mate for the cost of a couple of schooners each per month and watch all the NRL games live …and an added bonus you get to see Slothfield, Anasta and Gordy Tallis analyse all the important issues every day ad nauseum …

The problems I have referred to existed much more recently than twenty years ago. Some still exist. We’ve made great progress. We will make more. Enjoy.

 

[BuffaloRules]

The problems I have referred to existed much more recently than twenty years ago. Some still exist. We’ve made great progress. We will make more. Enjoy.

We’ll agree to disagree …but at least we have had a respectful conversation …cheers

 

[Vlad59]

We’ll agree to disagree …but at least we have a respectful conversation …cheers

No worries at all mate. Been a lot of fun

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I just think it's wild you're hyper-critical of an emerging market averaging higher than a chunk of Sydney clubs who absolutely need more scrutiny than they're getting.

Melbourne are going just fine given they are a minority sport in their city. Yesterday they were up against the end of a 74,000 MCG game (whether you think so or not, a big game next door will impact the gate at the game across the road), probably the worst day of winter so far, and still cracked 17k.

Where's the criticism for Canberra getting 8k on Friday night in the same vein?

This is a great point, this crowd would have been 11-12k pre covid

 

[titoelcolombiano]

17k is a very disappointing crowd for a top of the table clash, the Storm should be filling thier stadium every week.

I remember everyone's favourite LU member @Perth Red posting about his experience attending a Storm game, the tickets and food were insanely expensive. That's a sure way to keep crowds small, make it too expensive.

Speaking of Perth Red, I havnt seen him post for a while, should we check he's alright ?

I've told you all. Perth Red is Cummins, he's not posting because they are putting the bid together. All will be revealed soon

 

[Billythekid]

If 17K against an out of town team in absolute dogshit weather is a bad crowd I’m not sure what you make of 90% of the crowds in the NRL.

Don’t get me wrong I’d like to see the storm average more but it’s ludicrous to hold them to such a higher standard than everyone else.

 

[taste2taste]

Congratulations. If you are referring to the swans they do so after

1. A longer period to establish themselves
2. Friendlier media
3. Being gifted, at the time, the biggest ground in Sydney by us to build their fan base
4. A governing body which aggressively supported them and allowed them known (and hidden) concessions in order to be successful
5. Opposing clubs who were bullied by the governing body not to oppose the ridiculous advantages handed to them
6. A stronger localised support base of Victorians who’d moved to Sydney and
7. The virtual death of another code (union) which saw a large chunk of their supporter base transfer loyalties to the swans. John O’Neill says hello.

Oh and I forgot - the super league war

With the death of the rebels and the correct processes in place finally now in Melbourne we will see ongoing growth.
Enjoy

Have you got a similar bunch of excuses for the Lions ?

If the storm can only average 20k when they are on top of the ladder what crowds will they attract when they inevitably have a bad season ? 3k ? And what crowds are we expecting in AFL mad Perth? They have a population 60% smaller than VIC...so maybe average crowds of 8k ?

 

[Vlad59]

Have you got a similar bunch of excuses for the Lions ?

If the storm can only average 20k when they are on top of the ladder what crowds will they attract when they inevitably have a bad season ? 3k ? And what crowds are we expecting in AFL mad Perth? They have a population 60% smaller than VIC...so maybe average crowds of 8k ?

They are facts. I know it hurts but mate they are facts. As for your second paragraph,
, answer your own questions thanks. I’m sure you’ll come up with a bunch of pessimistic responses to tickle your fancy. Why hasn’t the game grown the way it should and deserves? People like you.

 

[DIOGENES]

Sorry, has the 2024 crowd watch thread been moved somewher?
anyone know the numbers at the Riff?

 

[Vlad59]

Sorry, has the 2024 crowd watch thread been moved somewher?
anyone know the numbers at the Riff?

Sorry about that mate. This whinging about Storm crowds warrants a response but we probably got a bit carried away

 

[Futura1966]

I'm sure they'd like that too but that's life.

They are up against AFL teams with membership between 50K to 100K. They have done a great job in the most competitive sporting area in Australia. Why don't RL clubs in Sydney have that many Members? That is the question you should be asking. Why are RL teams struggling for membership?