2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

[The_Wookie]

Round 27, Full, Consolidated

Home	Away	Total TV	TV Reach	BVOD	BVOD Reach	Agg Ave
Brisbane	Melbourne	559,000	1,510,000	211000	405000	770,000
Wests Tigers	Parramatta			336000	586000	336,000
South Sydney	Sydney	447,000	1,136,000	244000	505000	691,000
St george	Canberra			214000	416000	214,000
Canterbury	North Queensland			327000	550000	327,000
Penroth	Gold Coast	356,000	917,000	229000	419000	585,000
Manly	Cronulla			268000	457000	268,000
Newcastle	Dolphins	512,000	1,159,000	332000	506000	844,000

NRL Week 1 Finals

Home	Away	Total TV	BVOD	Agg Ave
Penrith	Sydney	767,000	274000	1,041,000
Melbourne	Cronulla	567,000	315000	882,000
North Queensland	Newcastle	718,000	282000	1,000,000
Canterbury	Manly	825,000	TBA	825,000

AFL Week 1 Finals

Home	Away	VOZ Total	BVOD Ave	Agg
Port Adelaide	Geelong	773,000	356,000	1,129,000​
Western Bulldogs	Hawthorn	954,000	413,000	1,367,000​
Sydney	GWS	683,000	369,000	1,052,000​
Brisbane	Carlton	855,000	374,000	1,229,000​

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[Vlad59]

I’ll be interested to see how Ritchie and his little grub try to paint this into an NRL win

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Down from 3.667m to 3.265m on FTA in week 1 - With few Melbourne teams and none of the big ones, Vic ratings took a battering, down 13%, Perth down 24% with no WA teams again.

2024

Home	Away	Sydney	Melbourne	Brisbane	Adelaide	Perth	Metro
Port Adelaide	Geelong	35,000	294,000	34,000	142,000	39,000	544,000
Western Bulldogs	Hawthorn	41,000	426,000	41,000	88,000	71,000	667,000
Sydney	GWS	99,000	207,000	35,000	58,000	43,000	442,000
Brisbane	Carlton	48,000	336,000	90,000	90,000	52,000	616,000

2023

Home	Away	Sydney	Melbourne	Brisbane	Adelaide	Perth	Metro
Collingwood	Melbourne	67,000	433,000	75,000	98,000	59,000	744,000
Carlton	Sydney	87,000	428,000	59,000	130,000	79,000	784,000
St Kilda	GWS	33,000	286,000	26,000	70,000	63,000	478,000
Brisbane	Port Adelade	18,000	312,000	82,000	132,000	67,000	613,000

Those Sydney ratings are pathetic, even for games involving the Swans and Giants. And people still think the Swans are huge? lol You can pretty much fit their TV audience into Accor Stadium. Brisbane not much better. AFL outside of Melbourne and the wasteland states is a myth.

 

[The_Wookie]

Those Sydney ratings are pathetic, even for games involving the Swans and Giants. And people still think the Swans are huge? lol You can pretty much fit their TV audience into Accor Stadium. Brisbane not much better. AFL outside of Melbourne and the wasteland states is a myth.

Theres much more to a sport than just its tv ratings.

 

[Vlad59]

Theres much more to a sport than just its tv ratings.

Well this is a thread about ratings …..

 

[Jacko11]

#NRL Finals Bulldogs/SEagles
Average 825,000 (BVOD 107,000)
Reach 1.837m
#1 rating NRL final in Week 1 for both reach and average.

Week 1 was up 3% on Nine compared to last year.

Home	Away	Total TV	TV Reach
Penrith	Sydney	767,000	1,643,000
Melbourne	Cronulla	567,000	1,377,000
North Queensland	Newcastle	718,000	1,530,000
Canterbury	Manly	825,000	1,837,000

Week 1 Aggregate: 2.877m
Week 1 Average 719,000
Average Reach 1.597m

2023 NRL Wk1 Agg 2.775m
2023 NRL Wk 1 Ave 694,000

2024 AFL Wk 1 Agg 3.265m
2024 AFL Wk 1 Ave 816,000

Data: VOZ

Another win for the AFL Norman

 

[Billythekid]

The streaming ratings almost look worse than the regular season.

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

Another win for the AFL Norman

Shame the trajectory is going the wrong way for the fumbles though, but I suppose that is to be expected when one code has all the momentum and the other one, well what can I say.

 

[The_Wookie]

The streaming ratings almost look worse than the regular season.

Finals are generally an AFL win historically, regardless of the H&A season results.

 

[Billythekid]

Finals are generally an AFL win historically, regardless of the H&A season results.

I know. Ignoring the code comparisons I just think it’s interesting that NRL looks like it’s rating not all that different to regular NRL matches on streaming (not even the higher rating ones). Not sure what the reason is for that.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

I’ll be interested to see how Ritchie and his little grub try to paint this into an NRL win

Help me understand something -

On the crowd thread, you vilify anyone who brings up the greater inclination of AFL fans to attend matches. Paint them as AFL trolls, say AFL is their favourite sport, etc.

Entirely different on the ratings thread. Here, NRL partisanship is anathema.

Why the contrast?

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

Finals are generally an AFL win historically, regardless of the H&A season results.

Do you think AFL ratings benefit from being a week further forward in their finals series?

 

[The_Wookie]

Do you think AFL ratings benefit from being a week further forward in their finals series?

No i think the AFL benefits from having 4 matches to focus on instead of 9, half of which mornally overlap and/or feature less drawing teams. Plus historically, the Thursday and Friday night overall ratings, not to mention Saturdays normally tilt the AFLs way, due to usually outperforming on FTA for the most part.

Where the NRL normally wins is the other 4-5 matches a round, as it does better on Fox and most of the AFLs matches on Saturday and Sunday clash with other matches. The NRLs Sunday FTA broadcast does regularly beat the AFLs as well.

Ive often wondered what the material effect would be on AFL broadcast averages if the local broadcast rule didnt exist and they went the NRL route and only showed three to four games a week nationally.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

No i think the AFL benefits from having 4 matches to focus on instead of 9, half of which mornally overlap and/or feature less drawing teams. Plus historically, the Thursday and Friday night overall ratings, not to mention Saturdays normally tilt the AFLs way, due to usually outperforming on FTA for the most part.

Where the NRL normally wins is the other 4-5 matches a round, as it does better on Fox and most of the AFLs matches on Saturday and Sunday clash with other matches. The NRLs Sunday FTA broadcast does regularly beat the AFLs as well.

Ive often wondered what the material effect would be on AFL broadcast averages if the local broadcast rule didnt exist and they went the NRL route and only showed three to four games a week nationally.

Query related to the fact that each week of the finals series, AFL are one step closer to the GF.

This weekend for instance, NRL semis competing for attention with AFL prelims.

 

[The_Wookie]

Query related to the fact that each week of the finals series, AFL are one step closer to the GF.

This weekend for instance, NRL semis competing for attention with AFL prelims.

I mean i cant rule that out given thats true most years. I think 2020 they ran at the same time though - but again circumstances were different - shorter matches etc, that resulted in a ratings boom for the AFL.

 

[Vlad59]

Help me understand something -

On the crowd thread, you vilify anyone who brings up the greater inclination of AFL fans to attend matches. Paint them as AFL trolls, say AFL is their favourite sport, etc.

Entirely different on the ratings thread. Here, NRL partisanship is anathema.

Why the contrast?

On the crowd thread I rarely if ever mention anything about afl crowds. Mainly because I don’t care. On the ratings thread I simply stick to facts about what the figures are relying on a solid source - the wookie. How you choose to interpret that is up to you and uninteresting to me. What I don’t like is pointless embellishments of figures by cheerleaders of either code. Go shove that up your Pommy ass.

 

[Vlad59]

I mean i cant rule that out given thats true most years. I think 2020 they ran at the same time though - but again circumstances were different - shorter matches etc, that resulted in a ratings boom for the AFL.

It’s pretty well established in recent years the NRL outrates the afl over the normal season but it’s the other way round during finals. It looks like happening again.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

On the crowd thread I rarely if ever mention anything about afl crowds. Mainly because I don’t care. On the ratings thread I simply stick to facts about what the figures are relying on a solid source - the wookie. How you choose to interpret that is up to you and uninteresting to me. What I don’t like is pointless embellishments of figures by cheerleaders of either code. Go shove that up your Pommy ass.

Another favourite Pom (Potter) seems to have gone AWOL.

Missed seeing Sharks capitulate to South Melbourne. And ensuing Tasmaniac meltdown.

 

[Vlad59]

Another favourite Pom (Potter) seems to have gone AWOL.

Missed seeing Sharks capitulate to South Melbourne. And ensuing Tasmaniac meltdown.

No meltdown here. I picked the Storm.