2025 Ashes Tour

[Mother Nature's Son]

'Words matter' - Everton fans fume at Australia name for Hill Dickinson Stadium

Everton fans have been left fuming with how the Australian rugby league team described their Hill Dickinson Stadium on social media. The Kangaroos are currently on tour in England in the rugby leag…

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f**k they`re as soft as fumbles fans.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Do poms ever stop f**king whinging?

 

[titoelcolombiano]

England

We can't sugarcoat this just because we want international footy to be successful. It is men against boys and England do not have a single position on the field where they have an advantage, not one. The closest is Farnworth over Staggs.

The crowds and the conditions up north might keep them in the next two games but ultimately they will fail because Australia has far better players.

England have rarely had players that would make the Australian side in the last 40 or 50 years.

This doom and gloom about a 22 point loss is hilarious. England lost 52-4 to Australia at the 2008 WC and the game survived to see them in a hard fought close 6-0 loss to an Australian side containing Smith, Slater and Cronk in 2017.

England are fine, they will continue to be competitive into the future, some generations better than others just like all nations.

I think we are all forgetting that England can't really play much worse than they did last week. They didn't fire a shot and most of their experienced and talented players had a poor game. They'll likely be better this week.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

f**k they`re as soft as fumbles fans.

Oh wow they're offended... Anyway...

 

[Growthegame]

Lewis doesn’t come across as a quality halfback to me.

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

Lewis doesn’t come across as a quality halfback to me.

Yeah he`s the Danny Maguire of the 2020`s. What a fuss they made about that bloke, was going to destroy us single-handedly, was useless against Aussie defences. Ditto Lewis.

 

[Growthegame]

Yeah he`s the Danny Maguire of the 2020`s. What a fuss they made about that bloke, was going to destroy us single-handedly, was useless against Aussie defences. Ditto Lewis.

I have Danny McGuire a long way ahead of Mikey Lewis at the moment. I’m not saying he lived up to the hype against Australia but had a big impact on a much higher quality Super League competition than what it is now.

 

[Taking The Two]

Brimson, Smith and Litten starting, Oledzki coming in for Havard.

https://x.com/johnnyddavidson/status/1983522245621453307?s=46

 

[adamkungl]

Is Smithies injured or did he run over Wane's dog?

 

[Taking The Two]

Changing 3 of your spine between Test 1 and 2 really suggests you haven’t a clue what you’re doing as Head Coach.

 

[Llangennech]

Changing 3 of your spine between Test 1 and 2 really suggests you haven’t a clue what you’re doing as Head Coach.

Let's put 50 on them

 

[Captain Apollo]

With an NRL Referee in charge, I suspect the second test will see faster play the balls and cleaner rucks.

 

[shadowformz]

Okay guy's ( and girls). I'm after some help here. I live in Australia and would like to know if there's any possible way for me to watch the 2nd Ashes test with commentary by the pommie commentators. I've watched all the highlights from the first test with the poms commentating and was blown away by the different atmosphere and feeling of excitement that they created. Plus you could actually here the crowd noise properly as well. I've got kayo and normally love watching the games on there but last weekend I just found Greg Alexander to be extremely boring.

 

[Chins]

Okay guy's ( and girls). I'm after some help here. I live in Australia and would like to know if there's any possible way for me to watch the 2nd Ashes test with commentary by the pommie commentators. I've watched all the highlights from the first test with the poms commentating and was blown away by the different atmosphere and feeling of excitement that they created. Plus you could actually here the crowd noise properly as well. I've got kayo and normally love watching the games on there but last weekend I just found Greg Alexander to be extremely boring.

I'd be keen for this as well. Illegal stream is the only way I think

 

[adamkungl]

I'd be keen for this as well. Illegal stream is the only way I think

VPN to BBC iplayer

 

[Growthegame]

VPN

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Changing 3 of your spine between Test 1 and 2 really suggests you haven’t a clue what you’re doing as Head Coach.

Would you rather he does nothing to try and save the series?

 

[Taking The Two]

Would you rather he does nothing to try and save the series?

That’s not really the point.

It suggests that the camp is a bit of a mess, in all honesty. Spines being thrown together and training maybe 3-4 times before a game through selection rather than enforced changes, such as suspension and injury, just really says that Wane doesn’t really have a clue what his best side is, what its spine looks like and any continuity in the key positions. It’s coming across a bit desperate now and a man coming towards the end of his lifespan as coach that he’s now just throwing mud at a wall and hoping any of it sticks.

Changing your spine is a desperate act and questions as to how badly Wane’s got it will be asked.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

That’s not really the point.

It suggests that the camp is a bit of a mess, in all honesty. Spines being thrown together and training maybe 3-4 times before a game through selection rather than enforced changes, such as suspension and injury, just really says that Wane doesn’t really have a clue what his best side is, what its spine looks like and any continuity in the key positions. It’s coming across a bit desperate now and a man coming towards the end of his lifespan as coach that he’s now just throwing mud at a wall and hoping any of it sticks.

Changing your spine is a desperate act and questions as to how badly Wane’s got it will be asked.

So again, you'd rather he do nothing after last week's showing?

 

[Taking The Two]

So again, you'd rather he do nothing after last week's showing?

Again, the point isn’t whether he should do nothing, the point is how and why has it gone so disastrously wrong that you’re going into a series defining (and perhaps job defining) game having ripped the spine you’ve trained with for two weeks to shreds and are now going with a spine that have trained together no more than 4 times? Alarm bells should be ringing.

As for what should be done, I won’t go into who may have done better outside the 24. I think the spine probably needs Harry Smith. Personally, I would have gone with him in game one over George Williams and would go with him over Williams in game two. That’s probably all I would do with the spine, in all honesty. Bateman and Havard have no place near an England team anyway and should both go out the side. I think Oledzki won’t far much better than Havard and will be dominated by their pack, so I would be tempted to put Knowles in at prop and run with Smithies at 13.

Ultimately though, the issues go beyond Shaun Wane, accusations he has favourites and this 24 man squad.