2025 Crowd Watch

[Desert Qlder]

SOO presale is currently happening and Suncorp is selling very well. Won't be many seats left for the general public sale tomorrow.

How did this work? I got four tickets yesterday and considered myself general public.

Just got a reminder email from the NRL and clicked the ticketek links.

 

[yakstorm]

Lower bowl in the TV arc at CommBank is pretty much gone (few bays on the corporate side which still have seats) for All Stars.

For the upper bays, generally the back 6 - 12 rows haven't yet been put on sale, though for what has been made available, sales have been ok.

Estimate would be between 16-18K sold so far. Trending is for 22-25K based upon how All Stars has sold in previous years.

Don't see it getting to the 26,755 this match got at the same venue back in 2022.

 

[Vee]

Lower bowl in the TV arc at CommBank is pretty much gone (few bays on the corporate side which still have seats) for All Stars.

For the upper bays, generally the back 6 - 12 rows haven't yet been put on sale, though for what has been made available, sales have been ok.

Estimate would be between 16-18K sold so far. Trending is for 22-25K based upon how All Stars has sold in previous years.

Don't see it getting to the 26,755 this match got at the same venue back in 2022.

Indigenous game?

 

[yakstorm]

Indigenous game?

Yes, sorry I could have made that clearer in my post.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

How did this work? I got four tickets yesterday and considered myself general public.

Just got a reminder email from the NRL and clicked the ticketek links.

That email contained the link to the NRL.com member presale, so that was part of the presale.

 

[Timmah]

Yes, sorry I could have made that clearer in my post.

Was pretty clear from the "All Stars" in the opening line I thought lol

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

Origin 1 at Suncorp is sold down to single seats for the general public.

Maybe about 3000 or so left for QRL memberships.

 

[League Unlimited News]

 

[Perth Red]

Origin 1 at Suncorp is sold down to single seats for the general public.

Maybe about 3000 or so left for QRL memberships.

Perth Origin:
Lower bowl pretty much sold out
middle tier 80% sold
upper tier about 30% sold

Thats depending of course if all seats have been released.

 

[i0Nic]

What do we think the H&A crowd average will be in 2025? If it was 20,171 in 2024 (source: AFL Tables) I'd like to see it push past 21,000 in 2025. I don't think it's reasonable to see as big of an increase as we've had the last couple of years, but I'd hope to see continued upward momentum especially with some dormant Sydney teams doing much better.

 

[Perth Red]

What do we think the H&A crowd average will be in 2025? If it was 20,171 in 2024 (source: AFL Tables) I'd like to see it push past 21,000 in 2025. I don't think it's reasonable to see as big of an increase as we've had the last couple of years, but I'd hope to see continued upward momentum especially with some dormant Sydney teams doing much better.

As usual will be determined by:
Scheduling
Weather
If the big fanbase clubs can play well

Anyone got the numbers that were posted for each teams home game avg attendance, that was really useful as takes out the outliers like regional games and double headers. Cant remember who posted that data but by far the best accurate source. I think AFL tables is a bit fudgy now with doubleheaders and MW?

 

[i0Nic]

Storm (positive: continued upward crowd growth and good form)
Panthers (negative: moving to parra will affect their averages in the negative)
Sharks (neutral - capped out)
Broncos (neutral - they had solid crowds in 2024, hopefully they can get higher in 2025 but not sure)
Manly (neutral - capped out)
Roosters (negative: don't think they will do so well in 2025)
Rabbitohs (positive: I expect them to climb the ladder)
Bulldogs (positive: great momentum in the end of 2024 and expect them to do better)
Dragons (neutral: neither here nor there this year)
Dolphins (positive: hope they can continue building their supporter base)
Cowboys (neutral)
Raiders (negative - I'm expecting them to slide down the ladder)
Titans (neutral)
Eels (positive - with better form they should improve their averages)
Tigers (positive - with better form they should improve their averages)
Knights (neutral)
Warriors (neutral - capped out)

 

[i0Nic]

I'm most curious to see what happens to the home crowds of big fanbase clubs that have not done so well in recent history but could potentially have solid years - Eels, Bulldogs, Tigers.

Edit it's a shame that home ground situation for Bulldogs and Tigers is what it is. I'd like to see both these clubs playing at a 30k Liverpool stadium with one off games at Belmore, Campbelltown and Leichhardt only.

 

[bazza]

Storm (positive: continued upward crowd growth and good form)
Panthers (negative: moving to parra will affect their averages in the negative)
Sharks (neutral - capped out)
Broncos (neutral - they had solid crowds in 2024, hopefully they can get higher in 2025 but not sure)
Manly (neutral - capped out)
Roosters (negative: don't think they will do so well in 2025)
Rabbitohs (positive: I expect them to climb the ladder)
Bulldogs (positive: great momentum in the end of 2024 and expect them to do better)
Dragons (neutral: neither here nor there this year)
Dolphins (positive: hope they can continue building their supporter base)
Cowboys (neutral)
Raiders (negative - I'm expecting them to slide down the ladder)
Titans (neutral)
Eels (positive - with better form they should improve their averages)
Tigers (positive - with better form they should improve their averages)
Knights (neutral)
Warriors (neutral - capped out)

seems about right - most of the clubs at the smaller venues seem to be near there max all ready so can't push too much more. The ones at the bigger venues have scope to grow a lot and a few can only go down

Dogs - potential big increase from 20k given stadium - but would need to play well and time big games with the other team doing well
Broncos - got about 40k last year so probably only downside if they struggle
Souths - big upside if they do well
Dolphins - big upside from 21k if they have more big games at Suncorp
Penrith - expect to be down from 18k - will see how much the move to Parra affects them
Tigers - potential big upside if they play some games at Homebush - otherwise even if they do well won't push 15k much higher
Warriors - potential big downside unless they have all ready sold their tickets or improve on field (no upside)

 

[Valheru]

Storm (positive: continued upward crowd growth and good form)
Panthers (negative: moving to parra will affect their averages in the negative)
Sharks (neutral - capped out)
Broncos (neutral - they had solid crowds in 2024, hopefully they can get higher in 2025 but not sure)
Manly (neutral - capped out)
Roosters (negative: don't think they will do so well in 2025)
Rabbitohs (positive: I expect them to climb the ladder)
Bulldogs (positive: great momentum in the end of 2024 and expect them to do better)
Dragons (neutral: neither here nor there this year)
Dolphins (positive: hope they can continue building their supporter base)
Cowboys (neutral)
Raiders (negative - I'm expecting them to slide down the ladder)
Titans (neutral)
Eels (positive - with better form they should improve their averages)
Tigers (positive - with better form they should improve their averages)
Knights (neutral)
Warriors (neutral - capped out)

One thing roosters are doing well is trying to make multiple 'event' games a year that demand a crowd regardless of how well they are going.

This year they host ANZAC Day so that's 40k

The emergency Services match this year could be a really nice crowd of 30k plus. The inaugural event got 27k and this year I believe they are honouring ambos and the wider health industry including nurses etc which will inspire people to attend.

Then there is the indigenous round against the dogs that they are trying to make an annual thing out of and the souths home game which should always command 30k plus

I see no reason why week 1 won't be a 25k plus crowd as well.

So assuming ~155k for those 5 games that's 31k average. You would then only need 13k average over the other 5 games to match last year's average at the stadium. Looking at the other 5 games, Penrith is early enough in the season where form shouldn't matter too much (got 25k at similar time of season last year). Titans (6PM Friday), Raiders (6:30PM Sunday), Wests and Storm (Thursday night) might be tough sells but everything else should more than make up for it.

 

[League Unlimited News]

As usual will be determined by:
Scheduling
Weather
If the big fanbase clubs can play well

Anyone got the numbers that were posted for each teams home game avg attendance, that was really useful as takes out the outliers like regional games and double headers. Cant remember who posted that data but by far the best accurate source. I think AFL tables is a bit fudgy now with doubleheaders and MW?

RLP's Home Crowd Average excludes all neutral games, which we use in our programme each week. Here's the averages after Round 27 last year:

 

[yakstorm]

Weather will definitely be the biggest variable for crowds this year, though at least encouragingly there has been some moves this year by clubs (or the NRL) to help grow crowds.

Broncos: The biggest change they've made from 24 - 25 is removing their General Admission areas at Suncorp. Whilst it may seem like a small thing, it is a significant factor between why the Dolphin's biggest crowds at the venue are almost 4K larger. Assuming they have a decent season on the field, hopefully they can at least hold their average.

Bulldogs: The end of the Bundaberg agrees instantly helps the club's average. The club is also only playing 1 game at Belmore in 25, with the other game being taken in Allianz. Assuming the club doesn't regress on the field, a 25K+ average isn't out of the question for them.

Warriors: Reduction of GA will also have a positive effect for the club. With the club expecting to grow membership sales YoY, the club is decently placed to keep their 20K average at home. Assuming they can have a decent season, there is some room for them to actually increase crowds.

Wests Tigers: Best placed out of all clubs for decent growth. Limiting games to Campbelltown, Leichhardt & Tamworth last year pretty meant they were capped out at 17K for their bigger games. Moving 3 games to CommBank & 1 to Allianz allows them to lift their average. Considering the club hosts Easter Monday this year (should be a comfortable 25K+), is part of the Eora Round concept (should be another 20K+ crowd) and also has the Bulldogs at CommBank, their average should increase.

Dolphins: Club has cut its number of Kayo games from 3 to 2, which will give them an instant uplift. Rabbitohs and Dragons are also better drawing teams than Knights and Sea Eagles.

Perth Double Header: Unless PVL says Perth is definitely not getting an NRL team, I'd expect 40K+ for this, which will be a big lift for both the Sharks & Rabbitohs averages.

Eora Round: Assuming the state government still go ahead with their planned promo for the 3 games (Roosters v Bulldogs / Rabbitohs v Eels / Wests Tigers v Sea Eagles) there is a real opportunity for this concept to deliver a combined 75K+.

 

[yobbo84]

I can't see Souths crowds improving much this year. We sucked last year and our draw sucks this year.

 

[yakstorm]

I can't see Souths crowds improving much this year. We sucked last year and our draw sucks this year.

Being actually able to play the Eels at Accor and moving the Cowboys to Perth will help those games relative to last year. Hopefully they'll balance out the loss of Good Friday.