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2025 Match Review & Judiciary charges

speedster

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1 match is about right. It wasn't high so they couldn't charge him with that, and he kinda wrapped his arm.

Looked more awkward than it was.

Ginnane and Cronk carried on like it was premeditated murder.

Anyway sadly we play better as a team without him in 2025 so whatevs.
Latrell tried to lower his body to the point where he was almost squatting but, the midget coming at him slipped down even lower than scrotum level so that what would be a normal legs tackle for an adult sized human became a concussion for a tot on ice skates.
 

mxlegend99

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I don't like Mitchell when he is being a thug. Like what he did to Manu. But that wasn't a thug act last night. It was a genuine mistake and pretty much unavoidable when he had committed to the tackle.

Momentum is real. These guys are running at full pace. They take time to react too. Players moving at those speeds toward each other and then one slips. How is a player meant to get any lower to avoid their head? They can't stop on a dime. Can't disappear. Atleast he only got a week for it I guess.

But that's as much on the bloke who fell as it is on the defender.
 

Danish

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1 match is about right. It wasn't high so they couldn't charge him with that, and he kinda wrapped his arm.

Looked more awkward than it was.

Ginnane and Cronk carried on like it was premeditated murder.

Anyway sadly we play better as a team without him in 2025 so whatevs.

I think a week is about right with his record. A cleansing could even get a fine really.

the contact was with the head though so they could absolutely have charged him with a high tackle. I think they just didn’t as he’d have been loaded into oblivion so they came up with the dangerous contact to get the right result
 

speedster

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I think a week is about right with his record. A cleansing could even get a fine really.

the contact was with the head though so they could absolutely have charged him with a high tackle. I think they just didn’t as he’d have been loaded into oblivion so they came up with the dangerous contact to get the right result
Contact was with about 1/3 of Fa'alogo's body and head considering the angle he was at when contact occurred.

A cleansing you reckon. A colonic perhaps? A thorough enema just for leaving the Chooks. A strong deterrent. 😂
 

kurt faulk

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I don't like Mitchell when he is being a thug. Like what he did to Manu. But that wasn't a thug act last night. It was a genuine mistake and pretty much unavoidable when he had committed to the tackle.

Momentum is real. These guys are running at full pace. They take time to react too. Players moving at those speeds toward each other and then one slips. How is a player meant to get any lower to avoid their head? They can't stop on a dime. Can't disappear. Atleast he only got a week for it I guess.

But that's as much on the bloke who fell as it is on the defender.

But he chose to make a punishing style tackle on a player who was always passing the ball and had his back turned towards him. He wanted the lay the wood on him. It's up to him to ensure he doesn't hit the guy in the head, no matter what happens before he hits him.

That's why the league added reckless and careless in charges way back when. If a defender wants to come in with a big hit they better get it right.

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speedster

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I don't like Mitchell when he is being a thug. Like what he did to Manu. But that wasn't a thug act last night. It was a genuine mistake and pretty much unavoidable when he had committed to the tackle.

Momentum is real. These guys are running at full pace. They take time to react too. Players moving at those speeds toward each other and then one slips. How is a player meant to get any lower to avoid their head? They can't stop on a dime. Can't disappear. Atleast he only got a week for it I guess.

But that's as much on the bloke who fell as it is on the defender.
I thought the Manu hit was also accidental as he was also falling but deserved a suspension as it was reckless and careless.

What you're talking about though is what I have been thinking regarding how I reckon they need to adjust this rule. This shoulder to head crackdown should only apply, in my view, for set plays when the defensive line is set and moving up. That's when a defender has time and opportunity to go high if they want or not. BUT, in broken play, what they are now calling "chaos play", when players are running at speed and changing direction while defenders are coming across in cover and fullbacks are lining up a try saving tackle on a runaway speedster (blushes), then this crackdown should not apply for those sort of split second and unpredictable high speed plays. It's just too hard and unfair to designate what is a Rugby League accident at split second speed as an act of foul play along the same lines as a mean forward putting on a head shot whilst watching the ball runner come straight at them.

Chalk and cheese.

Rant over.
 

speedster

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But he chose to make a punishing style tackle on a player who was always passing the ball and had his back turned towards him. He wanted the lay the wood on him. It's up to him to ensure he doesn't hit the guy in the head, no matter what happens before he hits him.

That's why the league added reckless and careless in charges way back when. If a defender wants to come in with a big hit they better get it right.

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Fa'alogo is probably the trickiest stepper in the game. He wanted to get him and not get side stepped. Players throw dummies (see Chooks-Dragons game earlier on same day). And suddenly with the slip, it's a case of "where did he go?" in a split second. You can't presume he was lining up a shot the same way a prop does on his opposite in yardage. Chalk and cheese.
 

kurt faulk

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Fa'alogo is probably the trickiest stepper in the game. He wanted to get him and not get side stepped. Players throw dummies (see Chooks-Dragons game earlier on same day). And suddenly with the slip, it's a case of "where did he go?" in a split second. You can't presume he was lining up a shot the same way a prop does on his opposite in yardage. Chalk and cheese.

Sorry man, but a player that doesn't want to get side stepped doesn't come rushing in like a bullet out of a gun and launches himself so he's parallel with the ground when he hits the defender. He was only coming in to lay the wood. It's up to him to not hit the head.

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speedster

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Sorry man, but a player that doesn't want to get side stepped doesn't come rushing in like a bullet out of a gun and launches himself so he's parallel with the ground when he hits the defender. He was only coming in to lay the wood. It's up to him to not hit the head.

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Watch it again but without the hate. Latrell was bending over so much he looked like he was visiting the White House. You can't be bent over and rushing at the same time. He lurched forward once he tried to nab the little bloke just as he slipped but it's no different to trying to catch a fly or mozzie with your hand. You have to snatch at the last second.

Anyhow, Latrell polarises people.
 

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Saturday​

North Queensland v Gold Coast​

Jaimin Jolliffe (GLD)​

Grade 2 Careless High Tackle on John Bateman (39 min)
Base penalty 2 matches
2nd offence
- Early Plea - 2 matches
- Guilty at panel / no contest - 3 matches
PLEA: Monday 12pm

Griffin Neame (NQL)​

Grade 1 Careless High Tackle on Jaimin Jolliffe (56 min)
Base penalty $1500
1st offence
- Early Plea - $1000
- Guilty at panel / no contest - $1500
PLEA: Monday 12pm

Brock Gray (GLD)​

Grade 1 Careless High Tackle on Jake Clifford (61 min)
Base penalty $1500
3rd & subsequent offence
- Early Plea - $3000 or 1 match (rule 41BB)
- Guilty at panel / no contest - 2 matches
PLEA: Monday 12pm

Penrith v Manly​

Casey McLean (PEN)​

Grade 1 Careless High Tackle on Tom Trbojevic (5 min)
Base penalty $1500
1st offence
- Early Plea - $1000
- Guilty at panel / no contest - $1500
PLEA: Monday 12pm

Dylan Edwards (PEN)​

Grade 1 Dangerous Contact (trip) on Tommy Talau (19 min)
Base penalty $1500
1st offence
3 year incident free discount
- Early Plea - $750
- Guilty at panel / no contest - $1000
PLEA: Monday 12pm

Scott Sorensen (PEN)​

Grade 2 Shoulder Charge on Nathan Brown (33 min)
Base penalty 3 matches
1st offence
- Early Plea - 2 matches
- Guilty at panel / no contest - 3 matches
PLEA: Monday 12pm

Siosiua Taukieaho (MAN)​

Grade 1 Careless High Tackle on Isaiah Papali'i (58 min)
Base penalty $1500
1st offence
- Early Plea - $1000
- Guilty at panel / no contest - $1500
PLEA: Monday 12pm

 

Bazal

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Tbh I don't think Yeo should have been charged. Just f**ken simplify it, enough of this moderate force, low force, make t up as you go BS
 

mave

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Tbh I don't think Yeo should have been charged. Just f**ken simplify it, enough of this moderate force, low force, make t up as you go BS

I'm happy for him not to be charged either.

If they hadn't charged the last 30 poor plodders who did less in this latest crackdown.

Consistency is all we want, or at least a semblance of it.
 

MKCS

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Don't know if this is the right thread for this but I'd love to see an overhaul of the judiciary and disciplinary system if I'm honest. We've got 2 games left of this round and already 4 or 5 players are definitely missing games.

I might be wrong but I feel this would improve the sport quite a bit:

- Sin bin and send off only exists for intentional foul play or in circumstances of fighting. It doesn't seem fair that a player accidentally hits another player in the head and is sent for 10 and there are plenty of circumstances where players are sent from the field and a team is severely disadvantaged due to a wrong call (That's a whole other thread)

- With suspensions I'd like to see us do something similar to soccer. 5 non intentional acts of foul play leads to a 1 match suspension and that's it, obviously intentional foul play, sin bins, send offs, violence etc would be immediate suspensions with the judiciary deciding how long based on each individual circumstance.

- For unintentional rule breaking or minor infractions a penalty is given and we play on. If the referee is unsure about intent then he can place it on report and it should be reviewed after the game, if it is deemed by the reviewer that it was intentional then the player is brought to the judiciary.

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The broadcasters, fans, players and teams themselves want the top tier players playing every week yet every single week without fail someone is dragged into the judiciary over something non intentional and they sometimes cop as many as 3-4+ weeks for it. No other sport is punishing players this harshly for unintentional rulebreaking, in the EPL and NFL the only players copping 3 week suspensions are players who have committed violent acts on the field.
 

speedster

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Wayne had it right from the very beginning of this crackdown in my humble. Leave it to the medical professionals to determine if someone has suffered concussion symptoms or not and then bin the culprit after that has been medically proven like they did in the trials and/or suspend accordingly thereafter. The refs don't know so why try and guess the level of force? It's dumb.
 
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